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Wish December 18th, 2005 06:29 PM

My First Map: Siltrock
 
This is a map I wipped up this morning, with 39 provinces, primarily for duels and small games - nearly half the provinces are

I will post a no specials version, once I figure some things out, and when I have it finished, I'll post the version with specials.

edit: here is the map, full version and no specials version: LINK

anyway, here is what it will look like:
http://www.importantlife.net/Siltrock.jpg

shovah December 18th, 2005 07:53 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
looks pretty sweet, i will have to try it

Endoperez December 18th, 2005 08:13 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
"Just whipped this up"... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

Okay, I can barely do some sprite editing, and you can do this out just like that... Well, at least you're using it for making new good-looking maps for us envious ones. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Wish December 18th, 2005 09:36 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
it helps that I can draw http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

is there any guide to population types and the such?

Boron December 18th, 2005 10:32 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
Wow this is easily the most beautiful dominion map http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.
Imho it even beats Sharivar.

And 39 provinces is perfect. Finally we have something new for the weekend blitzes and then something such beautiful. Marvelous http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Wish December 18th, 2005 10:56 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
actually it boiled down to 38. I accidentally had two white pixels next to eachother.

shovah December 18th, 2005 11:54 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
19 provinces each would make an intense blitz (imagine if starting provinces was set to a high number :p

Wish December 19th, 2005 12:06 AM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
half of them are underwater too, to allow for atlantis and rlyeh -

heres a funny occurance though, I got on a dry run, I have a province set to sea, also no start (i believe) and it lets me recruit normal infantry types and a scout... who all drown once recruited. whats causing this?

Wish December 19th, 2005 12:49 AM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
edited origional post to incluse a link to a zipped file with the TGA and the no specials .map

Wish December 19th, 2005 02:43 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
Ok I'm having a problem with #feature and #commander lines not taking. can I email the map to someone who knows better what they are doing and tell me what I am doing wrong?

Turin December 19th, 2005 02:59 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
just post it. A problem with #feature may be that it gets overwritten by the sites which the game adds randomly. So if you are playing with high magic sites setting(50+), some features might not show up.

Wish December 19th, 2005 03:06 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
well the problem is that they are showing up as like nifelheim and other national sites instead of what I am setting them as. Also commanders show up as the normal commanders instead of the ones I set, although their magic changes as I set it, but they aren't getting the items I give either.

here it is: LINK

Turin December 19th, 2005 03:32 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
hmm I noticed that the "" symbols are different for the landnames and for the commander names and sites. Maybe the program needs those standardized "" symbols? Try editing your mapfile with the normal windows editor and see if that helps.

Although Iīm no expert on map commands, I couldnīt find anything wrong with yours apart from that oddity.

Wish December 19th, 2005 03:41 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
thanks, that appeared to do the trick

Morkilus December 19th, 2005 04:00 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
Wow, that's pretty. I like the style. Will there be border lines added later? Hopefully that won't wreck the aesthetic. Anyway, I found a little bug:

#landname 4 "Abode of the Ancients"

#terrain 4 1553
#setland 4
#nostart 4
#poptype 40
#feature ?The Crystal Citadel?
#feature ?Ancient Temple?
#feature ?Abandoned Labratory?

Laboratory is misspelled; it probably won't work like that.

I may be inspired now; mapmaking looks like fun.

Wish December 19th, 2005 05:16 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
The way the provinces are placed seems, for the most part, defined by various changes in the scenery. I Kind of don't want to add border lines. I guess it should be played with neighbors on.

Wish December 19th, 2005 05:25 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
fixed some neighbour mistakes, the labratory thing, and added the full version of the map to the zip on the first page. Seems to be working. Okay so far.

Does it need borders guys?

Morkilus December 19th, 2005 05:42 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
I'll give it a test tonight vs my eternal nemesis, the AI. Looks like alot of fun. Any suggested settings?

Wish December 19th, 2005 06:59 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
play how ya like

Wish December 20th, 2005 02:49 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
If you need borders here is a tga with borders.

LINK

just download it and rename it Siltrock.tga (it is named Siltrock-borders.tga)

Personally I prefer it without borders.

Morkilus December 21st, 2005 04:23 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
It's small enough that you don't really need to have the borders, I found out. You just know where everthing connects after a bit. I'm in the middle of a battle vs 3 easy AI's and I quickly overwhelmed Caelum. I like the two mountain passes on either side, and the dragon (quite a wall) in the middle. Having a tiny map sure changes the game!

PashaDawg December 21st, 2005 09:26 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
Excellent Map! Thanks.

I am sooooooo happy that there are more small maps these days for 1x1 play.

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Wish December 21st, 2005 10:51 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
Thanks Pasha

shovah December 22nd, 2005 04:06 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
please tell me why i havnt downloaded this yet?

Wish December 23rd, 2005 01:26 AM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
you would have to tell me

Zooko December 23rd, 2005 10:34 AM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
Beauty! My brother and I will try it 1-on-1. My son wants me to play R'lyeh.

Nerfix December 28th, 2005 11:34 AM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
Quite unorthodox but man, that's one good-looking map! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Zooko December 28th, 2005 01:22 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
For some reason I can't get it to work. No map named "Siltrock" appears in the list, even though I've put Siltrock.map into the maps/ directory, and copied Siltrock-borders.tga into maps/Siltrock.tga.

Any other ideas?

UPDATE: Oh, it is because the "maps" directory which is a sibling of the "mods" directory isn't the right place to put maps, is that right? Instead you should put them in the "maps" directory which lives in the app somewhere...]

UPDATE: Yep, that was it.

Wish December 28th, 2005 11:40 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
double post

Wish December 28th, 2005 11:41 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
oh, you have to rename siltrock-borders.tga into siltrock.tga

the .map is designed to work with the border-less tga file, not the bordered one, I put the one with borders up for those that prefer it.

oh yeah, it needs to be in dominions 2/maps not under mods anywhere

Saber Cherry January 3rd, 2006 06:37 AM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
Very cute =)

shovah January 3rd, 2006 09:08 AM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
I dare anyone to do a game on this map with EVERY NATION including water nations and give eevery nation 2 starting provinces (would be fun if all players gave a report)

Endoperez January 3rd, 2006 11:23 AM

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Quote:

shovah said:
I dare anyone to do a game on this map with EVERY NATION including water nations and give eevery nation 2 starting provinces (would be fun if all players gave a report)

A little bit too chatotic. Luck would play a big role, as well as the pretender. And starting spell(s), obviously. Mercenaries should be disallowed from the game. Some nations are just plain better this early in the game, and Mictlan would have no hope, except POSSIBLY as a Blood Sacrifice mayhem if it kills another nation.

It would be interesting read, but I quess Atlantis would win.

Wish January 3rd, 2006 03:08 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
Tried it out, it is definately a war of dominion at first.

Also found some connection problems in the oceans, gonna have to fix those

Wish January 3rd, 2006 03:13 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
Ok, the updated maps are being uploaded, the link in the first post should have everything you need

shovah January 3rd, 2006 05:55 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
it would be fun to to a mp game with: all nations, 1 starting province, easy research, rich world, max sites and maybe some other rules (like on undead ermor)

Wish January 3rd, 2006 06:02 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
Just for me personally, I think 1 dominion humans and no death themes should be a requirement. by which I mean no one can start with more dominion than the base human 1.

the first three turns or so are litterally the high dominion pretenders wiping out the low dominion pretenders.

shovah January 3rd, 2006 06:39 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
yea, i guess (it would be like mega sudden death)

Endoperez January 3rd, 2006 07:12 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
I'm not sure, but I think that would give Blood sacrificing nations a minor bonus. With Mictlan being the only one that mict actually be able to use it, I have nothing against that! They would have really hard time doing anything that early in the game.

Wish January 3rd, 2006 07:46 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
mict was out on the first turn every game I tried so far

shovah January 4th, 2006 03:37 PM

Re: My First Map: Siltrock
 
unlucky

PashaDawg January 9th, 2006 01:53 AM

Great map!
 
Great map!

I have been playing on it all weekend in SP. Very fun.

I like all the original names of the provinces! (I think they are original... yes?)

No need for borderlines. Works fine without 'em.

Zooko January 9th, 2006 02:05 PM

Re: Great map!
 
I'm playing 1-on-1 against my brother. (My 4 year old son is helping me make my moves.) We made a mutual agreement not to explore the map in SP so that any special things about it will surprise us in our 1-on-1 game.

shovah January 9th, 2006 08:34 PM

Re: Great map!
 
good luck their zooko, if your not too far into it are you up to an AAR? (just a suggestion, shouldnt be too hard to do with such a small map)

isodea January 10th, 2006 05:02 AM

Re: Great map!
 
I really like this map. It's a lot of fun. The provinces have a lot of character. Thanks!

Wish January 12th, 2006 04:29 PM

Re: Great map!
 
When I fixed the ocean neighbors problem, I accidentally overwrote all the specials I had in the proper siltrock, does anyone have the one I posted a few months ago - the one that still has amazons in the forest and the such? It would be great If i could get a copy of that .map again.


thanks in advance.

PashaDawg January 13th, 2006 10:16 AM

Re: Great map!
 
I could send you whatever I have. I am pretty sure there are specials.

But... I need to go to work right now. Feel free to email me at whscom < a t > maine {d o t} rr { do t } com.

Pasha

Wish January 13th, 2006 08:08 PM

Re: Great map!
 
email sent

PashaDawg January 14th, 2006 01:13 AM

Re: Great map!
 
files sent!

Wish January 14th, 2006 01:01 PM

Re: Great map!
 
ok, the file in the first post now contains everything as intended. I copied siltrock no special's neighbor list over to siltrock, so the pathing should be fixed, and the specials maintained.


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