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Well I don't know if any one of you will buy this, I am skeptical to beat all hell, but if your into believing that we can develop technology to go faster than the speed of light, check out this web page. BS to Get a Defense Grant

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Ayep. You could reach speeds greater than the speed of light. But you still need to provide a little something called "thrust" and "thrust" requires a nasty little thing called "fuel", and not just that, but "thrust" does not necessarily mean speed, you've got to take something called "mass" into account, and current speed. "Acceleration" takes "fuel" and the higher the "acceleration" and the "mass" the more "fuel" is needed to reach a higher speed.

What I'm trying to say is, you might theoretically be able to reach much greater speeds there, but you're still limited by your thrust and fuel. Shunting a ship into another dimension does not (necessarily) give it speed, so like it or not, all you're doing is essentially wasting your energy by getting into another dimension, that really IS all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Not that I don't believe in FTL travel, of course (seriously), but this is indeed BS - albeit not necessarily in the way you meant it; when a fifteen-year-old student can poke holes the size of solar systems into a theory, I think it's time to review said theory. QED

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Somebody has been watching too much Babylon 5, possibly while under hypnosis.

I didn't think it was possible to watch too much B5, but there it is.

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ROFLMAO - Good One SJ.

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I wish the guys behind this the best of luck then If they have watched too much B5.

Only so when they test it I can contact them and yell "Get the hell out of our galaxy!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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No, not really. The whole theoretical idea of of warping space is that our dimension has curves and folds and by getting to another dimension you may be able to get there by a shorter actual distance traveled. Like a long curvey road that travels 100 miles to get around a mountain. If you could outfit your car with some sort of device that would allow you to drive straight through the mountain from point A to point B your car wouldn't need to be able to go any faster or farther then a normal car but would get there much faster then a car that had to follow the road.

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You can't travel faster than the speed of light, thats why scientists in a few years will raise the speed of light.

-- end futurama joke.

I think anything is possible. This is going to sound stupid and I am 100% sure some people will disagree with this, but if you look at some of the things we take for granted now, and what we had just 10 years ago, it is impressive.

When I was on a 40mb, 286, monochrome, brick of a laptop with no network/internet,(maybe more than 10 years!) I never thought we could get graphics cards with 100x the power of the laptop itself, dual core cpus (with quad and more coming probably before the end of 06), internet, and more.

I never thought that I could hold a mobile phone in my hand, and have a video chat with someone who is far away.

I never thought a lot of things would be possible!

a few years ago, I would not beleive that in a car, I could have a GPS system that can tell me exactly where to go by voice and 3d maps (maybe more than a few years ago!)

When it comes down to it, science is only true untill someone says it doesnt make sense anymore, If you look in history, like the Romans, they were sure they knew how the human body worked, they were sure they knew everything, and it was reguarded as the truth, and barely anyone questioned it. Doctors, scientists, and everyone else believed what they were doing as much as we believe in what we are doing now.

fine, it was wrong, and now we actually have to do a higher level of proof to any claim, and a lot of things have changed, but what I am trying to say is that they believed so much in everything they did, as much as we all believe in our rules today.

I am not saying things like faster than light travel will be here tommorow, or in the next 50 years, but who says what the next 1000 years will bring... we have come a long way, and I believe we have much further to go.

I saw on a program Nasa are trying to make a family plane that is self guiding, and could be used to replace cars in the next 10 years... I think more like 50 years, but still.

sci fi is becoming ever so more real, I never thought that holograms could become real, http://www.io2technology.com/

things of fantasy that some people say are impossible, are becoming real.

there are things that will be impossible of course... but I just dont think there are too many things to rule out, as I said, not tommorow, but who knows what will happen in 100 years from now!

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You have to distinguish between the "no idea how it could possibly be done" ideas and the "physically impossible" ideas.

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That is the thing, is anything physicly impossible? Even our own current beliefs of a speed of light limit are being brought into question these days. I would want to read more about this theory, but if Nasa is contacting him it may have some validity, if not for ftl then maybe for something more simple like a new form of propulsion. Either way, could be interesting.

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That was in reference to wilhil's examples.

The laws of physics are based on empirical testing. You can't undo existing experiments, which cover an incredible amount of stuff. Good luck to you on the fringes, but don't come home without repeatable, empirical evidence.

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My thoughts on this interesting thread,..

I'm tired of being reincarnated, I want to go home.


Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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If you carefully read the linked article of the originator, it never says when or how the Doctor lost his "eyes, hands, and hearing" to an "accident". So where did they go, into this other dimension?

I only have one comment to make: USS Eldridge...

I am sick of people ripping off Einstien, they see the movie and basicly say the same thing like they originated the idea lol! If anyone actually can prove they succeded I am sure the US Navy would be very interested in how not to screw up anymore... (for future stealth ships).

In case some people aren't familiar Einstien had a Unified Field Theory but never officially finished it.

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You should read the C&C Red Alert backstory, now that is some Einstein-mangling.....

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I think most of you are missing the Important word in this little bit of sentence
In other words this is a theory. They wish to test this theory. And they would like a grant to test this theory.
I see no reason why they couldn't get this grant. Goverments seem to give Research Grants all the time to people with kooky ideas and people who want to prove obvious things like "Doing jumping jacks for 5 hours straight while smoking and drinking is bad for you"

Besides most of what people take for granted as facts about space are still only theories. Just a few days ago I was reading a Scientific America magazine that had a story about a new theory that suggests our universe may actually be only 2 dimensions with the 3rd just being an illusion, kind of like a holligram. It said that this thoery actually cleared up some conflicting data that A 3 demensional universe created.

[:pant pant:]

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Hmm...It's possible, but I don't think it's probable.

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Also leaving the Earth at Lunch and getting to the Moon in time for Dinner is not going faster than light. Even if the moon in question is around Mars.

It kind of sounds like a reactionless drive they are trying to make. Something like the ones in Alan Dean Foster books.

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Well, as someone mentioned, the probability that computers/humans work in that 'dimension' is far from likely, so how were they planning on getting *out* of it once started?

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It is not a theoretical engine in the scientific sense, but rather just a hypothetical one.

You don't get a scientific theory without evidence.

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SJ has hit the nail on the head, it's not even theoretical. It's an idea someone had and has written convincingly about.

But it is s a hell of a theory. Ballsy doesn't even cover it. For it to work you need not only four new dimensions above the usual three and time, you also need two new fundamental forces.

Hell you even need "Graviphotons" so you can "couple together gravity and electromagnetism and allow the conversion of electromagnetic energy into gravitational and vice-versa."

Still the New Scientist has me convinced that it's at least worth looking at. There's something there, his theory is at least self consistent and his predictions match up.

Not that I think it's likely but it's 'Blue Sky' research, the same approach that gave us blue lasers (DVDs) and radar.

This may not work, hell it may be utter rubbish, but that's no reason not to do it.

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Indeed, even if it is pure balognium, I'd still like to see what happens when we generate insanely huge magnetic fields.

If nothing else, it provides an excuse to try new things.

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I am hopeful that some day we will discover some means to travel between the stars in reasonable amounts of time. But it's not likely to happen in any of our lifetimes. Centuries, maybe many centuries. But if we decide it's not possible and stop dreaming and looking for ways, it will never happen. I will be happy if in my lifetime the prospect of space tourism becomes a possibility for more then just the idle super-rich. I'd like to take a ride in a rocket some day. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Well, if this guy's theories are right, it sounds like it would solve all sorts of unanswered questions in physics. I sure hope he's right!

Sometimes I wish that Feynman was still alive. I'd really be interested in hearing what his opinion is on this theory, I'm sure he would have been able to tell us very quickly if it's a bunch of nonsense or if it's worth investigating.

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This thread once more proved that I am living in EXACTLY THE WRONG TIME. Just a century or two earlier and we wouldn't even know there were extraterrestrial/extrasolar planets worth traveling to, and maybe a couple centuries in the future and we're building sleeper ships (or whatever) that allow you to travel to other solar systems in what to you is a relatively short time span, but which might actually take tens or hundreds of thousands of years. Oh hell.

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As a Catholic naturally I don't believe in Reincarnation, but up until a few years ago I wished that when I died I'd be born in the future and experience high technology such as space travel, but then cloning was invented and spaceship 1 went into orbit and now I wonder if perhaps I am living in a time where I can experience those things some day. I sometimes joke that perhaps I will be lucky enough to live long enough that anti-aging treatments will be developed.

Edit: Actually nowadays I wonder if perhaps I died 50 years ago and asked God to put me in an age of technological explosion http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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I don't believe in reincarnation either, that is why I make sacrifices to my dark gods daily to extend my life.

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Strat there were worse times than now, to mangle a quote by Crowley

"The good thing about time is that it take's me further and further away from the 14th Century. The most boring century in God's creation."

As for the future? Overated I'd say as we are all going to die because of Ebloa/SARS/Bird Flu/Flesh Eating Necrosis/Panic.

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Here's another new development in space travel physics... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

This article says a new solution to Einstein's equation could allow us to travel close to the speed of light!

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I'm not sure I understand all the article, but I wonder what effect this will have on his theory.

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Kamog: "...a new solution to Einstein's equation could allow us to travel close to the speed of light!"

Now all we have to do is find a suitable mass already traveling at 57.7% of the speed of light in the right direction...and figure out how to overtake it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

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I was kinda wondering that as well, and noticed they didn't address it. If we can get real close to a huge mass, and if that mass is already travelling at a massive velocity and if the theory is correct and if the human body and/or spaceship can withstand the forces, it'll be great! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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Depending the mass of the propelling body and the distance of the "payload" from it, the ship/probe may experience tidal stress (see Larry Niven's story "Neutron Star"). Otherwise, if I understand the article correctly, the payload would be in "free fall", only away from the propelling mass rather than toward it.

Depending on propulsion method (e.g. surfing on nuclear detonations), the payload may of course experience considerable "stress" merely catching the relativistic mass in the first place.

It just occurred to me that the article had no suggestions for slowing down at the end of the journey... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

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