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Randallw January 22nd, 2006 06:46 AM

OT-BLoody heatwave
 
I am really coming to dread weekends. For the last few motnhs it seems like something on the computer goes wrong, one after the other. Now my Computer started rebooting itself 2 days ago. I reasoned that seeing as how hot my case was it was overheated so I left it off for half an hour and it was ok. Now today the same thing happened so I left it off, and when I restarted it, it lasted 10 minutes before it rebooted, and it kept rebooting whenever I told it to turn off. Did I mention that we had a heatwave today, over 40c, which in F I guess is what 40*2+32= 112. Is it normal for this sort of thing to happen. I can't see how computers can work in places like Africa if so. There is a lot of dust in the case. Should I have the power supply looked at or something?

Fyron January 22nd, 2006 07:23 AM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
CPUs and motherboards generally have temperature sensors in them for self-preservation (especially the CPUs). They will shut off if they get too hot.

Cleaning out dust regularly is important for proper computer maintenance. Lots of dust means the cooling becomes less efficient.

You can always use more fans for better cooling and older hardware that does not make itself quite as hot as modern hardware in hot climates.

Randallw January 22nd, 2006 07:28 AM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
I guess i better get it cleaned then. I could possibly do it myself, but I wouldn't want to risk mucking up. About the most technical thing I did once was install a new Cd drive after a friend told me what to do. Problem is I always fear the shop will keep it for a week and then I would be missing turns http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Fyron January 22nd, 2006 07:30 AM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
No need for that. Go to a local computer/electronics store and buy a can of compressed air. Take the PC outside with case off, blow all the dust out, paying careful attention to all fans and heat sinks (as this is where dust is the biggest problem). Its really easy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Randallw January 22nd, 2006 07:48 AM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
Fans pretty obvious but whats the heat sink look like. All I know about them is you need a lot when designing a battlemech http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. Theres a big gold thing with lots of ridges, more surface area I guess.

Renegade 13 January 22nd, 2006 11:27 AM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
You'll have a heatsink directly over the CPU most likely. It'll either be a fan itself, or like you described, a mettalic blocky thing with a lot of surface area through ridges and crevasses.

Fyron January 22nd, 2006 03:42 PM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
Heat sinks can not be fans. Those are fans. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif You will only be lacking a heat sink if you have a rather old PC.

Will January 22nd, 2006 07:40 PM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
If you're feeling especially brave, you can unplug everything on the system board, put it in your dishwasher and run it. That cleans out the dust really well, and as long as it is dried before you try plugging everything back in, works fine. Although it's probably not a good idea if you have hard water...

With the canned air, it may be hard to get some dust cleared away, especially on heat sinks, especially on the CPU. You should be able to remove the fan from the heat sink (usually there's some locking levers and some clips) to get better access, and if that still doesn't work with the compressed air, take a damp (meaning, not dripping) napkin and wipe away the dust.

And while the temperature is that high, it's probably a good idea to only have the computer on when you really need it, and maybe keep the side of the case off for better air flow.

Randallw January 22nd, 2006 10:59 PM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
Found some local shops that have tiny vacumns and air cans. Only problem is that my case appears to be held together with rivets. This doesn't make sense to me but that's what it looks like. There are two big screws at the back but the rest look like rivets. I am wondering if the rivets are just to hold the sides on and if I unscrew the back the whole thing will come off.

Edit: figured it out. The two screws hold on one side which I guess comes off. Last time I had to open a computer the whole cover came off.

Hunpecked January 22nd, 2006 11:08 PM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
40 degrees Celsius = (9/5)*40 + 32 = 104 degrees Fahrenheit.

Move. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Randallw January 22nd, 2006 11:14 PM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
It rarely if ever gets that high, maybe once every few years. Tasmania is the coldest state in Australia. As far as I am concerned a comfortable temperature is about a third of that.

Atrocities January 22nd, 2006 11:24 PM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
Quote:

Imperator Fyron said:
CPUs and motherboards generally have temperature sensors in them for self-preservation (especially the CPUs). They will shut off if they get too hot.

Not if its an HP, Compaq, E-Machine, or Dell. They love to over heat and fail.

Renegade 13 January 23rd, 2006 12:02 AM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
Quote:

Imperator Fyron said:
Heat sinks can not be fans. Those are fans. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif You will only be lacking a heat sink if you have a rather old PC.

Heh...it was early in the morning and I had little sleep. Brain's a little fuzzy about that time of day http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif Thanks for correcting.

Randallw January 23rd, 2006 01:50 AM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
Operation succesfully carried out, and despite what I feared the patient didn't die on the operating table.

Renegade 13 January 23rd, 2006 02:28 AM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
Quick! Bring the paddles! *ZAP!*

NullAshton January 23rd, 2006 09:24 AM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
They also make these neat alcohol wipes that don't conduct electricity, and are great for everything from cleaning monitors and mice, to keyboards and possibly even the inside of a computer. Handy if you don't want sticky mice or all that gunk on a monitor/keyboard.

And about what Fyron said about HP computers overheating, it's true. Apparently from how they make their cases, they never thought that people would place a GRAPHICS CARD inside a PCI-X slot.

Caduceus January 23rd, 2006 01:00 PM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
I would probably only feel comfortable with an air can. Let those experts use a vacuum cleaner (AAAH! STATIC!!).

What is the prognosis on the patient's recovery?

Randallw January 23rd, 2006 10:08 PM

Re: OT-BLoody heatwave
 
Well it's running smoothly now. More hot weather is predicted later in the week so I'll have to wait and see how it goes. The computer used to be downstairs where it was cooler but it had to be moved upstairs where all the heat goes.


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