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If you have been following the new Sci-Fi channel Battlestar Galatica series then you most already share the opinion that the show is very good sci-fi.

Would any of care to share your opinions of the show?

Character I like the most: Adama
Character I like the least: Lee Adama (Apollo)

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I would like to make a predicition. I believe that the Pegasus will be destroyed by the tactical nuke that Baltar gave to the cylon agent that he freed from the Pegasus brig.

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Favourite character: Tricky question, I'd have to say Adama. I keep thinking they will do something endearing because he is supposed to be a good guy, but am pleasantly surprised when he does stuff I like. eg. when he comes out of his coma he doesn't judge his XO because he doesn't believe you can judge someone unless you were in the same situation.

Character I hate: President Roslin. She's a nut job and has no right being in her position with her problems. If I had been that guard that caught her escaping I would have shot her. Close second would be Apollo, who turned on his own father.

keep in mind I am only up to the episode where Roslin is on Kobol. Need to make time to watch up to resurection ship pt 2.

My prediction is that when it ends they find an Earth fleet (turns out to be the future) whom the Cylons attack. The Earth fleet obliterates the cylons with no difficulty their weapons being much more advanced.

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Indeed a spoiler , because here in Holland the Series has just started (episode 8 now). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

But indeed I agree with you, that it is an real good show, and I also like the Adama Character but doen't follow you in you disliking Apollo (But maybe I will in another season)

And offcourse I like the looks of Starbuck, better looking than the Starbuck of the old series, but that isn't very hard to accomplish http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Favorite character -- Baltar. You just don't know what he's going to do next. The guy playing him is doing a great job.

Leaast favorite -- Tigh. He's just an ***. By design naturally, but still, the Tigh in the old series was at least competent.

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Favorite Character: Adama. I like the whole good guy caught between two worlds. At his core he seems to have that very noble sense of humanity that Sci-Fi is all about. I hope hope hope they play more on the concept that it isn't enough to survive, that humanity has to be worthy of surviving. If I had to make a prediction, I think that ultimately the humanity being worthy of surviving will be the fulcrum of the show, eventually leading to peace between the cylons/humans.

I don't agree about Apollo. I like his character, above all others in the series I think he understands the role of the military, that is protecting the population and it's established government. Albiet he is a bit childish at times, but considering the emotional trauma he (along with the rest of the fleet) are suffering I can understand it.

Why isn't Tigh compotent? He hasn't made a single truly bad decision. From the get go Adama should have declared marshall law for there was truly no functioning governmetn, according to military code starbuck should have been drummed out of the military for. It was tigh who kept saying that they needed to get the fleet back together when it was seperated. It was tigh who shaved the ship in the mini. It was tigh who made the tough decision to find the fleet the second time it split. Tigh is the man! Yah, he has a flaw, his drinking, but he controls it, if you ask me his only reall weakness is that wife of his. Dump her out an Airlock.

Least Favorite Character: Hmmmm..... I like them all, even the ones I hate. I don't like what they did with Apollo, but that is just cause I thought he was going to be the strong, true military guy thruoghout the series, and they have kinda broken down his character.

I agree though about the Peggy's fate. I mean, that whole situation just screams quick exit for the pegasus.

On a side note, am I the only one who thinks adama needs a damned haircut?

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I just stopped reading this Threat , ONE BIG SPOILER FOR THE DUTCH GUYS ...................

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I hate to say such things, but there is always alternative methods for viewing the episodes.

As to Apollo, I dunno about this charater. Perhaps its just that I don't like the way that the actor is handling it, or perhaps its just reminds me too much of luck skywalker. Honestly though, I think it is that Jamie just isn't up to the task of acting for this character. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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I don't know, I think he is doing a good job. I think he did better in the mini, but he is still doing a good job. I just think they have been kinda wishy washy with his character. From the beginning it was apperant that he was going to be the one that took this whole apacolypse thing the worst, but they can't seem to keep it consistant with who he is and how he deals with it.

Anyways, I wanted to say one more thing about why Adama is the coolest starship commander in all of Sci Fi. He a superior being to death with a flasshlight.

To prove this, I would just like to stick Adama in some scenes from other scifi:

Star Trek: Khan is being smug and going on and on about how he has defeated Adama. So, Adama beats him to death with a flashlight.

B5: The shadows slowly creap closer to Adama, he is trapped on a balcony overlooking a bottomless pit. In his own mind he hears Kosh call to him. "Jump" Koshs says. "Jump." Adama takes on last look at the bottomless pit, then pulls out his flashlight and proceeds to beat the shadows to death with it. All of them.

2001: "Open the podbay door HAL." "I can't do that Adama" Violent flashlight thrashing ensues.

Aliens: Face huger doesn't even have time to detach before adama beats it to death with his flashlight.

Lost in Space: Mr smith sabatoged the ship? Adama pulls out his flashlight and I think you know where this is going......

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I'll second your Nuke/Pegasus theory. As for finding Earth, I think they'll find us at our current point in history. Earth will unite and wipe out or at least hold off the Cylons. Hopefully flying motorcycles and Dr. Z are not involved.
I like Starbuck. She can ride my viper anytime. Or Boomer; wait, don't make me choose!

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Character I like most: Adama

Character I like least: Baltar

Baltar just makes me squirm uncomfortably. I like Apollo, he's had logical reasons for doing these irrational things each time he has done them, although I can see why folks wouldn't like him. He is the character I think the writers are trying the most to make everyone like. But it has weakened the character.

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The thing is I actually liked the Apollo character more in the first season and first part of the second season, but the last few episodes have really damaged the character. Like I said I don't know if it is the acting or the actor, or the quality of writing for the character, but I get the strong sense that the actor is bored playing the part, or the character in general has lost focus and they are trying to hard or not hard enough to build the characters dark, personal, inner self.

Right now Apollo is my least favorite character. But things change.

I like the President as she is a no frills women who's character is only getting better with time.

Above all though, the Cain character was one that I really liked and wish could have stuck around. Something about the way she took control of the show captivated my interest. I was deeply put out about her ending. Job well done to the writing staff. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Baltar, well this character is most assuredly one of my favorites because I am just sickened by him. The character is one that you just loath because the actor and the writers do such a solid job of making the character out to be so loathsome.

The supporting cast is also great. Starbuck is my second favorite character though. I really like the actress and how she plays the character. The writting is also great for the starbuck character.

I guess you can say that the Apollo character is the least interesting one to me currently. I do hope they change this though.

Over all this show is very effective and addictive to watch. Each week I cannot wait to see more. It has been a very long time indeed sence I have had that kind of interest in a show.

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Also for Canadian guys...we're about 3 episodes into Season Two.

Favorite Character; Starbuck http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif : Oh yeah! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif
Least Favorite: El Presidente. She's annoying. Very annoying. Thinks the civilians can have any real power over the fleet...yeah, right. Without the military they'd be totally lost, dead, kaput. Figure it out already.

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I predict some of the star pilots will end up on Earth with a group of super kids and cool motorcycles. Once there, they will go camping and run away from the police with their souped-up cycles.

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ROFLMAO - Now we all know how old CK is. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Ok, I've only watched the mini and season one, and am waiting on the first half of season two on my blockbuster subscription... so I am not entirely caught up...

But... I could really see Dr. Gaius Baltar turning out to be a Cylon. Sort of an experimental 12th model, that the Cylons don't have complete control over; they made him too human. In the first season, we know of four of the twelve models: Doral, Leobon, Number Six, and Sharon/Boomer. I put them in that order, because that's the order of humanity I see them to be in. Sharon seems more human than Number Six, who seems more human than Leobon, and so on. Baltar is the epitome of the selfish, narcissistic human, and to me, seems so over the top that it isn't much of a stretch to think that he is what the Cylons believe all humans to be like.

Anyway, it's probably wrong... but what if? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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What makes you think there being only twelver models strickly referred to the huminoid Cylons will? Who's to say the raiders and the centurions aren't included in the 12 models?

I don't think baltar is a Cylon though, doesn't make any sense for his character. I think you will agree with me more on this once you get further along in the series.

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In the mini series a captured cylon said that there were only 12 models. Of course he could have been lying.

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Well, I just re-watched the miniseries this weekend... and 12 Cylon models appears twice. The first time, Number Six tells Baltar that there are only 12. The second time, Commander Adama sees a printout note in his office that says something like Curiously, he notices this just after President Roslin leaves... and then the miniseries ended. And it still hasn't really been answered who exactly left the note (up to the end of Season 1)...

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I assumed Baltar sent it anonymously?

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!!! Spoilers !!!




If I remember right, Pegasus will not be destroyed. I believe Ron Moore commented on this in his pod cast and added something about how destroying the ship would a cheap way out. I hope that RDM and the production stick with that and keep Pegasus as a fixture on the show.

As for the nuke, I think we might see that again in Season 3 involved with the next stop on the long road to earth.

From what I've seen, Ron Moore is taking story elements from the original series and reworking them into new episodes. In many ways, he's retelling the original BSG story in a far better way.

Now story element that hasn't been mined yet is from original Kobol arc on the original series where baltar destroys the pyramid holding the course to earth. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Yay! I found my login to this forum lol.

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Spoilers........





It made a brief appearance in last weeks episode. It's a shame we can't all get this series at the same time so we can talk about it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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True. It would be great to all see the same episode at the same time. And welcome back Klvino.

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Thanks, Atrocities. It's good to be back, even if all I'm gonna do is loiter around http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Now if only S1st would answer my lost password requests...

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Zero, RDM has stated in his pod casts and blogs that there are 12 human cylon agents. Infact, by the end of this season, a little over half of those models will be known.

Tigh is a great character imo. He's Adama's Dick Cheney and Ted Kennedy wrapped into one person.

As for Baltar, cylon technology is more organic than mechanical. Six is more or less trying to drive Baltar off the deep end.

Renegade 13 , Something to note is that the original series Adama was split into two roles, Laura Roslin and Bill Adama. But the civies in the fleet do have a degree of control over galactica as several ships has resources galactica needs. Pegasus had a civilian fleet at one point, some 15 ships, look what cain did to them! Plus the pointless politiking of the fleet keeps the civilians busy so the military doesn't have to run the show. I don't find the president annoying at all, infact I'm hoping we see more of the politics in the fleet. Of course, now that the scrolls of pythia have been invalidated....

Atrocities, with the scenes in ressurection ship aside (even RDM disliked those) I think Lee is having a mental breakdown. Severe depression, death wish, distancing himself from everyone. I think we'll start seeing more of this in the fleet's military as the show continues. A similar evolution is happening with starbuck's character, but she's using hard liquor to drown it out. I also think RDM's handling of the character is funny as richard hatch, who originally played apollo, kept pitching that apollo would become the commander of galactica and desired that post. RDM completely reversed that in the character.

As for Cain, I was very surprised at the preformance given. It shows a very different part of the colonial mindset and actually reminded me of captain ahab or even kahn at times. Hats off to Ensign Ro. I did, however, find her death fitting as Karma for her actions and her crew's actions. I'm pissed about how they handled Fisk in the following episodes, however.

Now Baltar is something else, I think the cylons are trying to break him mentally with the constant screwing around six does with his mind. I think it'll also play a big part in the season finale.

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I have to say this while it's fresh in my thought's :

They have got to do something now about getting RID of the Pegasus !!! Escpecially now that BOTH her CO and XO/CO are dead. The premise of the series, both old and new, was a single warship desperately protecting and shepherding the remaining masses of the devastated colonies towards a new life at someplace call Earth.

In the older series the Pegasus storyline was both fresh and entertaining. Now, it's the "Elephant in the corner", so to speak. Changes the entire concept. You have a bigger, badder, better Battlestar running as a background piece in the series.

Maybe it's just me, but it doesn't seem to work... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

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It serves as contrast to the Galactica. You'll notice that we are beginning to get this more complex view of the colonies and cylons as time progresses. Humanity isn't united, it's not getting along, and different crews have different ways of seeing each other.

I do think the Pegasus crew will be less loyal to Adama and the president.

What gets me is the balloning CGI FX's cost of the series almost forced a clip show.

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After watching the latest BSG episode, in hit me that doesn't the Cylon fighter " <font color="blue"> Scar " </font> seem a bit reminiscent of Space: Above &amp; Beyond 's " <font color="red"> Chiggy von Richthofen </font> " ???

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That was more than likely the idea. Did anyone get the impression that Scar was supposed to be the cylon raider starbuck captured?

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I was thinkin' the EXACT same thing !!!

It seemed almost.... personal ....between those two, like it.... remembered ....this particular human; it <font color="red"> HATED </font> this particular human. All the other pilots were viable enemy targets, but Starbuck was the ultimate goal. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Yah, I get the feeling scar was supposed to be starbucks raider. Why else would they have shown clips from that episode in the "previously on BSG" segment.

As for the whole Chiggy Von Richthofen situation, it is an old theme taken from history, hence the name, being a reference to Mafred von Richthofen, a historicly over emphasized character from WWI. On a side note, if you ever get the chance to read his book I would recommend it, while probably not the best written piece, it really has a feeling of the man behind the myth.

Anyways, yah, common theme, done well in this episode, though, Starbuck was written a little over the top with her alcoholism for my tastes.

It bothers me though that really nobody in the series has refused to crack. Some people in situations like this stick their guns and refuse to even deal with the situation of the disaster and it never really effects them for years, if they ever show it at all outwardly.

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How many people can say that their civilization was nearly and completely wiped off the face of the earth? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

I'm honestly surprised they aren't falling apart more. Sure, a lot of them have stuck back into the colonial life mentality, but I wonder how many took thier own lives when faced with the reality all their loved ones, friends, and homes are gone for good. How many cracked had to be committed? I guess the closest example might be Native Americans whose culture has been reduced to heavy drinking, casinos, small reservations, and diabetes.

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I am not saying that people wouldn't crack. A lot would, a lot would take a long time to deal with it if they ever could. But some people, just don't deal with these things. There's a clinical term for it, I just can think of what it is, where emotional stresses don't really effect people. Dissasociation maybe? It is especially easier to deal with these sorts of things when you don't see them directly, and of course, a lot of the survives were aboard ships in transit, and as such didn't see the destruction as it is happening.