Space Empires vs Gal Civ 2
 

Basically in this thread on Gal Civ 2 website...there are players bagging on SE series and SE 4 and 5 in particular...

http://www.galciv2.com/Forums.aspx?F...&AID=99239

Kana

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Those who posted against SE in genereal seemed to prefer the FPS style space games or those that dhad action and "OOO pretty" type things to them. THey didn't seem like the type that could sit down for a good strategy game.

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Which is funny considering GC2 is turn based, and conceptually based on Civilization...

But it does have a fairly good AI, and the ship construction it alittle more than I was expecting...they are comparing it to lego like. I'm going to get this, but I now it wont' compare to what I really want and will get with SE5. But there are some things in GC2 that would be cool to have in SE5, but I'm sure we will have some great modding...

Kana

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Personally, I'm hoping that GritEcon + CarrierBattles + SE5 + Beta influence = Mindblowing Game

Gotta crack the whip and get working, tho...

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Let us know what we can do to help.

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What I suppose I need most is AI guys, but second to that would be a hearty set of LOW POLY shipsets which have nice fighter and troop models. Followed by combat animations.

See:
The carrier battles mod thread for details

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You see, chess is simple too.
and has some lousy graphics.

that sais all in my point of view.

imho SEIV is a very chess-like game. slow paced, but every single move matters.

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This interesting as Galciv and SE4 are essentially the leaders in the space stragedy at the moment. I like them both but Galciv is Civilizations in space. I like the candy but after a few times playing the game I get bored and there is repition in gameplay. SE4 is a new experience every time and the modding community is simply incredible.

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From GC2 forum:

#14 by Diplomat Zoomba
Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:38:11 PM





And there are disasters in GC2, just not ones that completely obliterate a planet completely randomly.

Realism in Sci-Fi Videogames is a sort of oxymoron considering we're already dealing with FTL travel, shields, laser blasters, aliens, and a visual map that is nowhere near scale and physics is largely meaningless.

You reference SEIV as an example of a game that does it. Well, the SE games have a pretty hardcore, but relatively small, following. They aren't mass market titles. They focus more on the deep strategy and attempt at realism than most games do. The focus there is on managing information, tweaking formulas etc.

GC2 however is a game first. It is supposed to be fun. It is as detailed as it can get without becoming overbearing. If I wanted to manage a spreadsheet, or play a game that took weeks of real-life time to build a ship or planetary improvement, I'd load of a SE game, or MoO3.

Games fail quite often when they go for realism over fun.

http://www.galciv2.com/Forums.aspx?F...&AID=99532

Kana

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Look 3 posts down... I thought muopos84 was making FUN of se4 in the first paragraph (50 megaton talisman! You can PRAY!) but then in the second paragraph he says he LIKES the variety! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

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One of the bes tthings that i like about SE is that you can tweak the game as you go. Have a great idea that will fit the gameplay? Mod it right in and keep on playing. It's really great for that.

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Hey, i don't know if you guys are talking about me, but i wasn't bagging on SE or anything. In fact i have become a fan of the series after learning more info and playing the SE IV demo! And that copy cat i wrote thing was plain wrong!

It's my first post btw!

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I dun like flame wars and forum vs forum crap, but someone needs to tell john hamp that sales != quality(spears, nsync, good charlote all sell tons of crap and big mammas house 2 was the #1 flik last week)... and if shrapnel had the promotional budget of other publishers and could put adds in every PC game magazine out, and then released in retail so every redneck in walmart can buy the game on impulse, SE4G would be the undispiuted king.

Also with enough knuckle grease and scripting and graphical knowhow, SE4 could BECOME GalCiv with slightly less advanced graphics, with multiplayer. The reverse isn't true, and after you clobber the cheating AI over and over, what's next? Play the humans again and again? Want to play a race of mindless space cannibles? Want to play as your favorite race against another human? No luck with GalCiv, welcome to SE4G.

Also some of those people are overstating the complexity of the tech tree and management of SE4G somewhat, I know there's lots of stuff to research, lots of things to customize and build, but it's not that intricate so as to be confusing to players, and while stock AI may not get all the intricasies modded AI will rock you. Can you even tweak the stuff in galciv?

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Welcome to the Forums BlizzardGR!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I don't think Kana was talking about anyone in particular when he said people were bagging on the series, just a reference to several somewhat negative comments spread amongst several people.

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Hello, welcome to the forums. Cheese? [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Cheese.gif[/img]

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Welcome to the forum! Have a good time! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Thanks all! Now that i call a warm welcome!

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Ah yes an convert!!! Muwahahahaha!!!

Oh wait you're listening...

In that case, welcome to the forums and hope you enjoy the game!

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Don't get your hopes up! I won't give up on GC just yet! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Bah. Some people are really foolish.

EDIT: Upon re-reading that, it sounds like I'm referring to the below poster, and I'm not. Referring to a few people on GalCiv forum.