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Caduceus February 1st, 2006 11:08 PM

I *knew* it!!
 
I just knew Fyron, Kwok, Atrocities and Suicide Junkie knew too much to be real!!

http://www.penny-arcade.com/news/show/21589

Caduceus February 1st, 2006 11:17 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Oh crap. I just thought... What if *I'm* the mole?!?

AAh!

Captain Kwok February 1st, 2006 11:20 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Hmm. Although I've accumulated a lot of posts, it's only a couple per day unlike some other guys that have 16k+ posts. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Suicide Junkie February 1st, 2006 11:21 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Time to check the old threads for "Moo3 is sweet" posts?

Renegade 13 February 1st, 2006 11:33 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
You've been caught! Good thing they don't suspect me yet...

narf poit chez BOOM February 1st, 2006 11:56 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
...You've got me!

I'm really here to sell refurbished space ships.

And I'm going to keep doing it, no matter how many times they tell me I'm fired!

Renegade 13 February 2nd, 2006 12:49 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Ooo, how much are you selling those ships for Narf? Better be at a good discount, seeing as how they're refurbished. And no laser holes in the couch cushions! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

narf poit chez BOOM February 2nd, 2006 02:56 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Cheese is the currently accepted currency. What are you looking for?

Kamog February 2nd, 2006 03:16 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
What do you actually do to the old ships to "refurbish" them? Where I used to work, "refurbish" means you take an old used product, wipe it with alcohol to make it look somewhat clean, test it to check that it works, and put it in the box and sell it. In other words, "refurbished" means just about the same as "old used product".

Atrocities February 2nd, 2006 03:22 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
DAMN IT TO HELL! The gig is up and now I am out of a job!

Atrocities February 2nd, 2006 03:23 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Oh ya, Moo3 is sweet.

Renegade 13 February 2nd, 2006 03:44 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Quote:

narf poit chez BOOM said:
Cheese is the currently accepted currency. What are you looking for?

Something smallish, not too flashy. Nice paint job, a few armaments. Will 58 metric tons of a nice sharp, aged cheddar do?

narf poit chez BOOM February 2nd, 2006 11:57 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Quote:

Kamog said:
What do you actually do to the old ships to "refurbish" them? Where I used to work, "refurbish" means you take an old used product, wipe it with alcohol to make it look somewhat clean, test it to check that it works, and put it in the box and sell it. In other words, "refurbished" means just about the same as "old used product".

I assure you, I only use the finest of duct tape, elbow grease and chewing gum.

narf poit chez BOOM February 2nd, 2006 12:01 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Quote:

Kamog said:
What do you actually do to the old ships to "refurbish" them? Where I used to work, "refurbish" means you take an old used product, wipe it with alcohol to make it look somewhat clean, test it to check that it works, and put it in the box and sell it. In other words, "refurbished" means just about the same as "old used product".

I assure you, I only use the finest of duct tape, elbow grease and chewing gum.
Quote:

Renegade 13 said:
Quote:

narf poit chez BOOM said:
Cheese is the currently accepted currency. What are you looking for?

Something smallish, not too flashy. Nice paint job, a few armaments. Will 58 metric tons of a nice sharp, aged cheddar do?

Well, step right up! Over here, I have a nice one, *nearly **brand new. It's got two forward missile launchers and one backwards, can do warp 9, seats four, life support is fully operational as is the gallery and *Ahem* the bathroom. And I ***assure you, the power plant will not explode ***casually.

* What's a decade between friends?
** No-name is a brand, right?
*** Technically completly true. So long as you don't mess with the duct tape.

EvilGenius4ABetterTomorro February 2nd, 2006 08:35 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Sounds like a ship I made for Traveller back in '88. Traveller is a really neat game. I hear old roleplaying games are making a comback. Wouldn't it be great to once again own those cool old games from Game Designers Workshop. Hey I just found a link to them at...

narf poit chez BOOM February 2nd, 2006 09:23 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Are you going to post the link, or do I have to get the wiffle bat?

Renegade 13 February 2nd, 2006 10:45 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Something smallish, not too flashy. Nice paint job, a few armaments. Will 58 metric tons of a nice sharp, aged cheddar do?

[/quote]
Well, step right up! Over here, I have a nice one, *nearly **brand new. It's got two forward missile launchers and one backwards, can do warp 9, seats four, life support is fully operational as is the gallery and *Ahem* the bathroom. And I ***assure you, the power plant will not explode ***casually.

* What's a decade between friends?
** No-name is a brand, right?
*** Technically completly true. So long as you don't mess with the duct tape.

[/quote]
Sounds perfect! I'll take it. Good think I like the silvery color of duct tape. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

narf poit chez BOOM February 2nd, 2006 10:59 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Good, good. Your cheese has been picked up. Here's the keys.

kerensky February 2nd, 2006 11:31 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
So Narf... I need a ship to deal with some "border issues" with my allies/neighbors. Got anything taht would do the trick? I've got nearly 70 american tons of nice swiss cheese...

narf poit chez BOOM February 3rd, 2006 01:58 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
What're you looking for? Stealth? Firepower?

kerensky February 3rd, 2006 06:12 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
BOth would work best but if i must choose... Firepower and then some... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

narf poit chez BOOM February 3rd, 2006 08:52 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Well, there's battleships, battlecruisers, heavy cruisers, dreadnoughts, superdreadnoughts, moniters, battle monitors, light dreadnoughts, fast moniters, light battleships, light superdreadnoughts, fast dreadnoughs, heavy monitors, light monitors,...

kerensky February 3rd, 2006 11:21 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
How about that big shiney one in the back called the "Giga-Moniter" ???

narf poit chez BOOM February 4th, 2006 03:10 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
...Make that five hundreds tons of swiss cheese.

Cipher7071 February 5th, 2006 04:50 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
What do you have in the '5 cases of Cheese Whiz' category?

Phoenix-D February 5th, 2006 05:03 PM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
One shiny new Target Drone, probably. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

narf poit chez BOOM February 6th, 2006 05:31 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Now, now, I'm nicer than that. Besides, I like cheese wiz.

Your Target Drone comes with one CSM I.

kerensky February 6th, 2006 10:31 AM

Re: I **knew** it!!
 
Hows about five tons of cheese wiz...

Strategia_In_Ultima February 6th, 2006 11:19 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
OK, I'm looking for a large ship, preferably uberdreadnoughtmonitorbattlemoondysonsphere-sized, heavily armoured, armed with enough weapons to vaporize a Dyson sphere. I've got half a galaxy of planets all set to manufacturing ultra-high-quality cheeses in massive quantities, and I can deposit payments of roughly nineteen thousand mobile cargo-carrying Dyson spheres filled with cheese per year, so I guess you could say the price is irrelevant http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Why such a big order? Well, my old pleasure yacht just gave up the ghost, and I'm in need of a new one so.....

Kamog February 7th, 2006 03:27 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
With a ship so huge, you'll need another spaceship inside it just to get around. Yeah, we want a galaxy-sized Dyson sphere! You know, like a regular Dyson sphere but instead of having a star in the middle, there's a galaxy in the middle.

Renegade 13 February 7th, 2006 03:53 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
Hell, why don't we just call it the "Universe" and be done with it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

narf poit chez BOOM February 7th, 2006 03:58 AM

Re: I *knew* it!!
 
...And hey, I've got this nice bridge...

Strategia_In_Ultima February 7th, 2006 05:36 AM

!!ti *wenk* I :eR
 
Cantilever or suspension?

narf poit chez BOOM February 7th, 2006 05:56 AM

Re: !!ti *wenk* I :eR
 
...Both!

Saber Cherry February 8th, 2006 12:12 AM

List of clients
 
One of the names on the list shocked me. And I have 75% lightning immunity...

The company's own page:
http://www.aeginfo.com/clients.shtml

Which I found by way of X-Bit:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/edi...tions2006.html

Now, I consider this to be not a "dirty litle secret" but a "dirty big secret", like the client list of a questionable Swiss bank or a Washington, DC escort service. However, if the business really is as immoral as it seems - and this is not a foregone conclusion, considering that the entertainment industry (e.g. circuses, playhouses, street performers) has used shills for millenia - it seems to me that the client list would be top secret. Furthermore, if a company felt that AEG's business model tasted bad, it would not enlist their services, knowing that the client list is public. That would be akin to a politician taking bribes from polluters ABOVE the table.

So, have these companies been 'caught with their pants down', or is the situation more innocent than it seems at first glance? Nobody really knows what these people do. Their business statement is perfectly vague - no outsider can accuse them of wrongdoing (or even bad ethics) on the basis of the information they make public. And yet, organizations that hide their doings from the public eye (secret police, drug lords, animal-testing firms [which I heartily endorse]) generally do so because what they do is illegal, unethical, contraversial, or deeply offensive to much of the population.

That said -

There's a quick test to determine who is a mole. Ask, "Are you a mole?" ...but in more direct phraseology, like "Do you or have you ever received goods or money from or on the behalf of AEG, signed any contracts with them or companies having common ownership, or provided any services at the request or stipulation of any of the said parties?" An innocent person can say, "No." But an employee would have to stay quiet, lie, or commit fraud... in which case (if any of the employees could be unmasked) the company would clearly be engaged in illegal fraud.

I wonder which is the case?

Caduceus February 8th, 2006 06:02 PM

Re: List of clients
 
I know I would be tempted with a 30" liquid crystal display to hype up a product I already believed in. Somehow that seems different than hiring a guerilla campaign company to post 800+ messages a day to "build a trusting persona" that can steer people towards a product.

If we can't trust an avatar who looks like a beloved (if somewhat retarded) mouse, who can you trust?

Ed Kolis February 8th, 2006 06:21 PM

Re: List of clients
 
Maybe *that* explains why Captain Kwok is the only SE5 beta tester who says anything positive... Strategy First is too bankrupt to bribe them all! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
So, Kwok, Do you or have you ever received goods or money from or on the behalf of Strategy First Interactive, signed any contracts with them or companies having common ownership, or provided any services at the request or stipulation of any of the said parties? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Captain Kwok February 8th, 2006 06:30 PM

Re: List of clients
 
Well what do we expect when even the US president has 'citizens' and 'journalists' planted to provide positive reviews? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Captain Kwok February 8th, 2006 06:32 PM

Re: List of clients
 
Ha Ha Ha!

I guess I was typing my post when Ed had posted his and know it looks like I'm in collusion with some sort of corporation! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Kamog February 9th, 2006 02:58 AM

Re: List of clients
 
Hey, it's working! I now have this irresistable urge to buy SEV immediately when it comes out and spend many many hundreds, maybe thousands, of hours playing it.

TurinTurambar February 9th, 2006 01:20 PM

Re: List of clients
 
Careful.... you guys are almost back on topic here....


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