Stargate episode 200!!!
 

Best Stargate episode EVER.

Strike that, best sci-fi show ever.

Strike that. BEST TELEVISION SHOW OF ALL TIME.

Watch this show. Even if you've never seen an episode of Stargate, watch this show.

If you like sci-fi, and if you don't you probably wouldn't be here, you have to watch this freaking show!!!

But make sure you use the restroom before you watch it. You might laugh so hard you'll wet yourself.

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Ooohh. Sounds like I'll have to download this one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

I'm happy to hear it's a great episode, as from what I've read Stargate's ratings have taken a big of a downhill slide since the beginning of the season; perhaps this episode will help bring the fans in again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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What episode exactly are you referring to ? I just finished downloading Emancipation and Progeny I. Which one is it ?

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It's the 200th episode that premiered last night. The episode is called "200" coincidentally enough. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I was rolling on the floor when they did the 'supermarination' (puppets) spoof. Especially when Hammond goes "make it spin" then he later says "I'm the general and I want it to spin." I just lost it! I thought I might have to change my drawers. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Taped it, looking forward to seeing it.

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Speaking as someone who hasn't seen it and most likely won't for a year maybe two I have to say I beg to differ. I've seen some pictures. Teal'c with an open front jacket and Mitchell wearing a ridiculous jacket, SG1 skipping about as Dorothy and Co. I read the synopsis and it's not my thing. Ok I get the idea, they are poking fun at themselves but I don't find tongue in cheek humour funny and when they crack jokes on episodes I just wish they'd get on with things. I have an understanding other people see things differently and that's ok but I have to be the voice of disent. For anyone wanting to see it due to the praise here just keep in mind I think people say it's great because it's funny or something. For me great would be a half hour battle against the Ori with complete CGI.

Again, I haven't seen it and I read there's some sort of revelation at the end. Perhaps I would think differently when I see that bit. I hear the Furlings turn up, but then again the synopsis says the supposedly funny hollywood version has them so perhaps they don't really turn up.

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Bah! They did the Dorothy skit for five seconds http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

And the open jacket and stuff was spoofing Farscape you farbot! (seriously that too was an excellent show with a great sense of humor and drama and fun all at the same time) and it is BTW the way Ben Browder and Claudia black BOTH got their starts in American TV, and Valla and Mitchell are (Black, and Browder) respectively so it was hilarious that they poked fun at where those two got their start.

Well other then the first EP with Valla where she actually brandishes a Peacekeeper pistol http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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All of the spoof stuff made perfect sense in the context of the show, and it's a riot. It's some of the funniest, and cleverest tv I've seen in a very long time. Just more evidence that Stargate is the smartest, best written sci-fi show ever. I've got this one saved on my DVR and I'm going to have to watch it a few more times before deleting it.

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I really didn't like it that much say for the last 30 seconds. I got the whole show but just felt that it was a jump the shark spoof and really would have liked to have seen what they could have done with the show if they had been a bit more serious and had more time. While it had a lot of shots and scenes that just set the hair up on the back of your neck, over all it was kinda disappointing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif But still, we got to see Jack again and that was well worth it.

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Supposedly he's going to be in a few more episodes this season as well.

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O'Neill: I don't know what do do...
Carter: Are you kidding? You were on seven seasons of MacGuyver! We've got belt buckles, shoe laces, chewing gum. Make a nuclear bomb! You were Macguyver, MacGadget, MacGimmick! Now you're MacUseless!

From the SG-1 200 Retrospective show.

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That was hilarious! I wish they would have shown that one a lot sooner. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif He could have at least made a heater!

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I was fearing this episode too, but I thought it was a good romp in the end, and hey! We finally got to see the Furlings and why we never see them.

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Ok, maybe I missed it, but when I... procured the episode... the scene with the "Furlings" was a movie sequence, when they were imagining what would happen, but that is not what they actually look like? I get the impression that contact with the Furlings will not be made until Earth humans become the "Fifth Race", which won't really happen in the series, I think.

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Not a bad episode. Personally not a favorite, these episodes always have a filler feel like they didnt have enough main plotline to fill out the season.
I will say it was funny though and was nice to have richard dean anderson back. The whole wedding spoof was pretty good

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Yes the bit with the "Furlings" was quite obviously a joke. But it shows how the writers really care about the fans of the show that they threw them in there.

I'm sure if and when we actually see the Furlings in the series they won't be Ewoks. I'm thinking Lucas might have something to say about it if they are. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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A part of this episode was to poke at the fans for various things. Furlings, problems with the SG1 movie, and how silly the actual premise is to poke the serious sg1 fanboys out there.

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Also liked the Asimov quote at the end.

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I'm surprise that Sci-Fi hasn't had a Stargate orgy lately. Come on, 4 or 5 episodes every Monday and Friday night? Please. But I'll probably try to catch this one. It looked interesting, and I'd like to see Richard Dean Anderson in the show. It probably won't make me a convert, but I do want to check it out.

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There won't be anything like that, not for a while. SciFi Wire confirmed that SG1 has been cancelled at the end of the season. Atlantis continues, however.

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Oh, of course. It's popular, they have to cancel it.

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I recall reading a little bit ago that MGM has stated that they currently have no plans to kill SG-1.

Just how many times over the past 5 years have people said "Stargate's definitely going to be cancelled at the end of this season!" and yet it hasn't happened. Until it does happen (which I hope won't be for a long long time yet), I won't believe any report that doesn't come from MGM as to the status of SG-1.

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SciFi has opted out of airing future seasons of the show, however MGM and Executive Producers did state they will shop the series around - but really, outside of scifi and other paramount-owned stations will consider it.

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Wow...hadn't read the SciFi Wire report before writing my last post. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif

I sure hope Stargate gets picked up by another station/company. It's been, bar none, my favorite show on TV for almost as long as I've been watching TV. Hell, Stargate has been airing for over half my life!

It is entirely possibe that someone else will pick it up, even if that company isn't American. For example, it's possible that a channel up here in Canada, Space, who I think are owned by Bell Globemedia, will pick it up. It'd be right up their alley after all.

I guess all I can do is hope!

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Sci-fi cannot afford Stargate and often only runs a series for only a couple of years. This might be the end of Stargate as we know it. NBC could aford to pick up SG and run it prime time but we all know how other scifi shows on NBC have been treated. Sindication is another option but lets face it, the sindication market isn't what it used to be back in the day of STNG.

MGM has a very marketable franchise, under marketed IMHO, no games, no collectables, no toys, just a show that could have made them a lot of money over the years under utitlized and now too expensive to produce.

Sallaries go up, cost go up, and series eventually become too expensive too make. This normally happens when their market share starts too fall, but in SG1's case their market share hasn't erroded over time, however the cost of producing the show, namily salaries, has increased to the point where it now takes more money per episode thus lowering profits for Sci-Fi network.

They are slating a feature film and will most likely make it so don't worry too much about it. If the film is successful, the will most likely make a return to tv. This according to a long Gate World report that I read a few months back.

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Alright...so rather than give in to the temptation to hunt down the morons who run the Sci Fi Channel and beat them to a bloody pulp with my handy, trusty tire iron, I think it's better to take a less violent, more results-oriented approach. So, if you want to see Stargate for a few more seasons, heres a few links for you:

Pretty much a "Keep Stargate Going!" petition:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Stargate/index.html

To contact MGM, the company that owns the rights to Stargate, and encourage them to find a new station to pick up Stargate, follow this link:

http://www.mgm.com/help.do

To email a TV station up here in Canada, analogous the the Sci-Fi Channel in the States, to encourage them to look at taking over where Sci-Fi left off, send an email to:

space@spacecast.com




As evidenced by the above, I'm a massive fan...and I don't want it to die http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

It's a sad day when intelligent programming, such as Stargate, can be cancelled, when a plethora of "reality" TV shows, wrestling shows, etc etc ad nauseum can spring up and succeed. It just goes to show that the average television viewing person is not prepared to use their mind even slightly when they turn on their TV. It seems they'd rather just empty their minds and drool senselessly as they're spoonfed worthless trash over and over again.

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Oh, I think this IS a perfectly good idea when considering how to respond to anyone who cancels the series.

It's been one of the very few fun, entertaining, interesting, and - occasionally - even educational Sci-Fi shows to comw around for quite some time.

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"All good things must come to an end."

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"Why?"

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My question exactly.

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Its not that they must, its that they just do. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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My recollection, and perhaps it's flawed, is that MGM never intended to continue SG-1 past season 8. They only wanted the one series, Atlantis. They were going to have the big whopping battle over the arctic, kill off Anubis, Hammond and O'niell would retire to do some fly fishing, Daniel would stay ascended and Carter would head off to run the Atlantis expedition. SciFi channel was apparently the one that cajoled them into doing another couple seasons of both shows.

To be honest there have been times when the two shows have been a little akward. It might have been better if they had just commited to one. If it meant we wouldn't have had to slog throgh this Ori storyline, I almost wouldn't have minded.

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Um it has been struggling? WTF, your running new episodes on FRIDAY NIGHTS in the middle of SUMMER..... FOR GODS SAKE FIGURE IT OUT YOU F**KING MORONS! Who the hell is going to stay home on an hot Friday night during summer? WTF! How f**king stupid are they at Sci-Fi? I mean Jesus Christ you f**king morons! I sware to God, each time I see some really stupid movie on Sci-fi, such seems to be the norm as of late, and then read that they cancelle a solid show I want to drive to their HQ and bomb it! (Figuratively speaking.. pass a really big fart in the building and stink the place up... wink)

Its like this, your trying to sell ice cream in the middle of winter at midnight. Who the hell is going to buy your ice cream in the middle of winter, at midnight? Not a lot of folks. Now if you try and sell that same ice cream during summer say at around 7pm, well then your going to sell a lot of it.

Stargate is NOT ice cream.... sure its great, but come on! Running new episodes in the middle of summer is like trying to sell Ice Cream in the middle of winter.... for crying out loud what kind of dumb f**kes to they have working at Sci-Fi?

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There needs to be a "timeslot factor"... multiply by N for crappy timeslots to indicate how well they'd do in "primetime" slots.

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Even with the crap timeslot, the 200th episode had a 1.9 rating...higher than last season's average of 1.8.

That just emphasizes how stupid Sci Fi is. Actually, I don't think they cancelled Stargate due to ratings. From what I've read, it has been Sci-Fi's #4 show in the ratings all year, which isn't bad. My personal theory is that they want to get away from the science fiction genre and concentrate on the ratings-heavy and cheap shows like "reality" TV and wrestling shows. I bet within a couple years, Sci Fi is no longer Sci Fi.

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So... The science fiction channel cancelled Stargate because they wanted to stop showing science fiction shows?

Wha?

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Have any of you seen some of the low brow, low quality, absolutly stupid movies they have funded and aired recently? Carnavor Planet... (?) not sure if thats the name, but it was certainly one stupid movie. And they have been airning a lot of stupid movies.

To be honest, I have seen better sci-fi writing come out of this forum than I have seen sci-fi stories come from the Sci-fi Channel.

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Does this not make sense?

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Makes perfect sense. A channel which has the abbreviation for Science Fiction in it's name is moving away from Science Fiction.

Shouldn't they at least change the name of the channel to Reality Channel, at least? Or the "Real" Channel?

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Remember when MTV meant Music Television? Look at the nonesense it is now; for the shallow teenagers. Like mentioned, it can be relabeled "Reality Channel" although there is nothing real about it. People are not real when there are known cameras watching. I hate all that ignorance.
SciFi Channel is sliding towards this.

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I blame music in movies for a number of stupid movies.

Why? Becuase when you have music, your actors don't have to work to show which are important scenes, to convey emotion to the viewer, to give a sense of life to the movie.

Just play the appropriate music and instant atmosphere. A lot of older movies are both very good, very nuanced and have no music.

How nuanced are modern movies?

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Stargate was good with not relying on music. Stargate kind of counts, since it's in widescreen and has the 'feel' of a movie.

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Man I was pissed when I wrote that post. To be honest I am still a bit upset over how f***ing dumb those idiots over at Sci-Fi channel appear to be. You don't drop your #4 rated show and replace it with crappy double "D" back yard, lets break out the video camera, movies!

Hell my nephews could make better movies than some that have recently been on Sci-Fi.

No effort at all is going into the movies, horrible production values, bad acting, rotten scripts, even worse dialog. Its like a Lucas script feast without the budge or SFX, or Steven Spielburg's (sp) to back them up.

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Lack of compitition drives most companies to believe that they can do whatever they want. Thus the Sci-Fi channels competitor is?????

WELL, what do you know! There is none! Who'd of Thunk it.....

Babylon 5 follow up shows would still be on the air if they (studio management) just left M.J.S. alone and let him do what he needed to do. They played the 'Ranger' series out of order because they didn't like the way the opening story was (not exciting enough). The man wrote one of the best Sci-Fi series and he didn't know what he was doing? (as AT would say "that's F'd UP!) Now you know why SG-1 is going bye bye. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

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Cable access I would say. No, the home made movies on Cable Access even have a better production value than those on Sci-Fi.

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SciFi channel made it clear that MGM's license fees was one of the main deciding factors on cancellation - much like how UPN would've cancelled Enterprise in the 3rd and 4th seasons.

Also, SciFi has made it clear that they will use their contract with MGM to prevent any future Stargate SG1 television series.

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I would like to see Sci-Fi try and go up against MGM.. That would be so funny.

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OK, so...is Stargate SG-1 really that good a show? I mean, it looks like it's another one of those adventure shows with a bunch of people hopping into new worlds and having new adventures but they characters are all one-dimensional, the women are weak, the men are strong, no one ever dies, everyone on the goog guy team really is a good guy, the aliens are really just humans with different skin, and there is ultimately no depth or edge to the show....etc...?

In other words...is it vanilla like Star Trek, or like Quantum Leap?

Battlestar Galactica was a phenomenal show, exactly because it wasn't like the above, and I have been interested in finding another show just as good - but I look over the SG stuff, and it looks to me like it's just a bit too clean and nice and traditional utopian sort of sci-fi.

Is it?

Just curious.

Thanks!

AMF

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While the show may have lost its hard core ruggedness and its on the edge film quality appeal, replaced by hi-definition video, shorter episodes, and a sense of "where the hell are we going with this" feel, overall the show is still good and I like it.

Albeit I am not a huge fan of the current story arch, the Ori, I think its better than the alternative, cloned Baals and renagade Jaffa. Lets face it, they Trek'ed themselves in that they created technology that now takes the thrill of living on the edge away from the game. Sure its cool that Earth has space ships now, but lets face it, they lost focus of the fundamental goal of the show, the stargate. Now the show seems more like fargate and while that is not all bad, more good than bad anyways, I do miss RDA and the harder more original feel that he brought to the show. While Ben is a good actor, he is no RDA.

Sci-Fi should be bankrupted for playing games with MGM. I miss my old SG1, replaced by SG Command, and while I will continue to watch, because it is great sci-fi, I cannot help but feel that by having the show on sci-fi, too many compermises were made and it shows.