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Its interesting- I can't seem to find any mention of SE:V on the strategy first pages (except the copied from Shrapnel forums), no advertising, few press releases, etc.

Combine that with the fact that its the 23rd of August and the game has yet to go gold and I think that September 12th date is looking kind of mythical. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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Look to October for a release.

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I don't know, I would be more confident that the September release is met more or less.

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SE:V has been featured a lot in SFI's recent newsletters and there was some activity in the last couple of weeks with various interviews/screenshots...

...Sept. 12? Perhaps. It's hard to say with Aaron - he's unpredictable at times. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Remember, SFI is a real 'stock-holder' controlled corporation. There will be huge pressure to meet the deadline regardless of the condition of the game. The quarterly earnings statements drive everything else. If they have publicly committed to a September release I'd bet on it occuring. But I would definitely not bet on the quality of the game that gets released.

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What Baron stated above, "real presure to meet the deadline regardless of the condition of the game" is a real possiblity. Too many highly anticipated games, MOO3 for one, were forced into early release and paid a horrible price. They shoot themselves in the foot when they force a game that is not ready for release into release. It killed the TRIBES franchise, MOO franchise, and lord know how many other games were rushed to an early death that if they had been left alone to be properly developed, would have been successful and highly profitable.

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commercial games publicize their release dates to their distributors, retail stores, etc. the info is sent out to magazines, news sites, fan sites, etc. they have a great deal to lose if they miss a date, because the distributors, retail stores, etc. are doing their own advertising and are prepping shelf-space and pressuring the company to get it out on time.

and vast numbers of those games still slip on their dates.

SFI is a relatively small company that does all their own distribution, and only rates a couple slots on the bottom shelves at a few retail outlets. And as far as I know, they only mentioned the relase date (idly, in passing) in one short press blurb.

I think they have almost nothing to lose by letting it slip, as they were probably planing to lead with a steam release and then schedule their shelf space AFTER they had CDs on the way to be mastered and pressed.

So while it would be really great to have a mostly-complete semi-buggy release on target (because then we could all start playing the game while the patches came out), I wouldnt be supprised at all if it slipped a little.

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Too bad SFI cannot attrack some main stream game developers to their name. I was watching MAD MONEY today, an NBC stock market show, and they stated that investing in game companies, tech, and consule companies is a very bad investment since the gaming industry has been performing horribly in recent quarters and that they predict a total collapse soon. WTF?

EA games is doing well despite the law suits, and Microsoft, ubisoft, and even Midway games are all doing well. Nintendo is doing well, as is Sony and even Atari. So where they get off saying that the gaming industry is dying I don't know. However it does beg the question that perhaps needs to be asked, is the gaming industry on the virge of a major down turn? I mean in recent years the games that have been released haven't been all that good, too heavily focused on eye candy and not substance as in the past. Quality is down across the board and costs are up. Hell we used to get nice manuals with our games, now all we get is a CD in a paper sleeve with some advertisment slips. They won't even spring for a jewel case or manual now. Even the box sizes have been reduce, albeit I think that that was a good idea.

They are scaling back E3 and many game developers are cutting jobs, advertisment, and dropping many titles that they have had in the works for some time all in an effort to slim down the bottom line and improve short term revenue.

I don't feel optomistic about the gaming industries future. With less and less orginal and inovative games being developed, and the utter extinction of small game developers like over the last decade, one cannot help but feel a bit depressed about the future of gaming in general.

While there is still hope, albeit slim, it is still hope that we might see some inovation and inspiring games in the future, but again my expectations are so low, they would have to work very hard indeed to dissappoint me.

Name four games, aside from SE V, that you are looking forward to being released in the next year. Just four, more if you have them, but four will do nicely.

1. Farcry 2 - Crysis
2. Star Trek Legacy (not really high hopes but some expectations)
3. Don't have one
4. Don't have one

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Yeah, September 12th is looking kind of unlikely. I don't expect to go to the local games store in September and buy a boxed SEV. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

The "Winter 2006" date posted at the Malfador site is more realistic. I sure hope it comes out by Christmas, though. I'm going to have a week off work around Christmas so I'll have a chance to spend several solid days playing SEV. Then I have to go back to work and then I'll too busy to spend much time playing.

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Other than SEV? That makes it rough.
Obviously SEV would be #1 or #2.

1. Dominions 3
2. VGA Planets 4
3. Rising Star
4. hmmmm time to jump on the gaming sites I guess...

Gandalf Parker

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1.) Dominions 3
2.) ... I'm actually at a loss. But I need to finish Freedom Force II and the main quest in Oblivion.

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VGAP4.. heh. what a pipe dream. Might as well list Elite 3. Or Duke Nukem Forever, for that matter.

I'd say Gothic 3 is worth looking forward to.

Supreme Commander might be worthwile, if it breaks the traditional RTS mold.

Defcon looks promissing.

Panzer Command sounds like one of the best tactical armored warfare games yet.

Medieval 2 is just going to be the next in the Total War francise, but the features look innovative and I'm sure it will be enjoyable.

And those are just the ones I get from taking a glance at TacticularCancer. There is also the upcoming Fallout3 from Bethesda, and a load of games for the Wii that will use that sweet new controller.

You guys are so pessimistic.

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Supreme Commander

Theater of War

To name two...

BF2142
Quake Wars
Medievel Total War 2

And many others...

I like the Company of Heroes Beta I've been trying...its an RTS, but a very cool visual, and semi-realistic one. I dont like RTS, because of two much going on, but it is very pretty and does all that it needs to do very well.

There are always going to be good games, either new and innovative, or some variation on a theme...

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Well that "we" includes wall street, E3, game developers, and game publishers alike.

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Spore
Spore
Spore
The Wii itself

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E3 was essentially just a massive party for those in the industry. The fact that it's being scaled back means basically nothing, just that companies aren't willing to waste millions of dollars on a party.

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Sins of a Solar Empire (trailer) looks interesting; Homeworld-ish.

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1. Medieval: TW2
2. Need for Speed: Carbon
3. Dominions 3
4. Supreme Commander

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New Horizons:Jupiter comes out in March.

Hopefully less software bugs, radiation hassles, frozen parts, jammed tape decks...

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1: Crysis (looks to be awesome)
2: Dominions 3
3: Not sure
4: Not sure

SE5 doesn't count, since I already have it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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This link totally wigged out FIREFOX. Click at own risk.

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Sorry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Their website might work better: www.sinsofasolarempire.com

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1. Crysis
2. Dawn of War: Dark Crusade
3. Need for Speed: Carbon
4. Combat Mission: Campaigns

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Gothic 3
Medieval 2
Neverwinter Nights 2
An Oblivion expansion (nothing released yet but it's a cert to happen.)

Crysis, sure but I'm getting too old for FPS games.

I'd say Spore too but I doubt it'll be out in the next 12 months and it could be over-hyped for what it is. Dumbed down versions of half a dozen different genres with the creature editor the biggest selling point. Another dolly game like the sims in other words.

Darkstar One that game out recently looks decent. From Ascaron, the Sacred people, it's a Freelancer-esque space shooter/trader with a sim-lite spin.

Oh, a proper sequel to Divine Divinity would be nice and should be due soon. Beyond Divinity was a horrible mess of a game.

edit: I missed the second page of the thread! Gack. How could I forget about Supreme Commander and the next Dawn of War expansion?? There really are loads of good games coming out. If you're into it there's even the Gal Civ 2 expansion coming out which I'll probably pick up though I spent years dissing Gal Civ 1 - the sequel really is smooth.

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1) Rules of Engagement 3
2) X-Com 4: Containment Breach
3) MOO4- The Antaran Uprising
4) Startopia 2 'Vacation'

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... MOO4?
/me thinks you're making up titles now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif
As for me...
1. Dominions 3
2. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
3. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
4. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
OK, so most of those aren't even PC games, but whatever http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Space Empires X: the Holodeck Version
(and I would love to see the ad play on calling it SEX)

Dominons 10: the Matrix plugin
(hopefully just in time for me checking into an old folks home)

Gandalf Parker

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I just swung by Strategy First's website, and there was a nice big banner across the top of the page:

"Crush your enemies....and create an empire! Space Empires V Coming Soon"

Is this new, or something old that I just never noticed?

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Its been up for a week or two.

I'm glad they're promoting it.

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September ? Hightly unlikely imho

my fav 4

1. SE V
2. Sins of Solar Empire
3. Supreme Commander
4. NWN 2

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I rather hope SEV will be released in September. I have not bought a new game in a long while. I'm ready to fall in love with the 4X genre all over again.

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1.SE:V
2.Spore
3.Spore
4.Spore

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Strategy First states that SEV is due out in late September. http://www.strategyfirst.com/press/D...ArticleID=3298

"Strategy First will be hosting various Contests, with promotions and prizes to play for. Upcoming Contests include: Best Game Modification (Mod) Contest, Best Fan Site Contest, and a Space Empires Trivia Contest. More information on these contests will be coming your way soon.

Please also stay tuned for the first edition to the Space Empires Dedicated Newsletter which will be out September, 2006.

Space Empires V is due to be released late September, 2006. Is rated E for Everyone by ESRB. For more info on Space Empires V please visit: http://www.strategyfirst.com/en/games/SpaceEmpiresV/"

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The second link above says "Release Date:Winter, 2006"

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That is an older statement. This "A Space Empires Month" is the latest. It states "Space Empires V is due to be released late September, 2006."