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The demo has been released like 4-5 days ago. This fantasy RTS will be awesome. The demo is only 457 Mb, so download & try it, if you like the genre.

Download the demo from GamersHell

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"Only 457 MB", well that's new. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif
Any way, I have a feeling I've tried a demo of this some time ago. I have seen the trailer before, at least. I don't like the idea of fantasy units fighting against tanks, or even existing in the same world, so I'll pass.

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Actually tanks won't be in the game AFAIK, it was just a "joke" from the devs in the beta version. I am playing with the demo for 1 hour now, and I've only found fantasy units. In fact I've found lot of different fantasy units, like 10-15 so far. [Not to mention that creatures of the same race can be different, Ive seen 3 different ogres, and their size was various also.] The graphics is excellent, and the gameplay aswell. This is like 5x better then Spellforce 2. for example. You should give it a try definitely.

PS. You were surely playing with the BETA. This demo is totally different, everything has been upgraded since then greatly.

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I think I will download it for later. But right now Space Empires V has a demo released. Im trying real hard to like it tho I keep getting pulled to play some other game (any other game)

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Did you try the M&M:Dark Messiah demo? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Speaking of "messiah", it comes from a hebrew word, right? What does it mean?

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As in, you're not liking SE-V all that much? Just picked up SE-IV, must say I think I like it better than GalCiv2. Be disappointing if the sequel wasn't as good as IV.

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I'm not sure of the order they were published, but here are some of the games I have on my computer:
Betrayal at Krondor, Beyond Good and Evil, Dungeon Keeper, King of Dragon Pass, Mount & Blade, Ultima IV, ADOM and Dungeon Crawl and few other free games. Oh, and a remake of Star Control 2. I have only finished Beyond Good & Evil and ADOM.
I uninstalled Morrowind a while ago, and it never caught me. And I never tried Neuromancer, and never got underground in The Bard's Tale. And I didn't bother reinstalling Fallout (1) after it vanished in some accident or other; I thought I had gotten pretty far before the accident, and I didn't want to play through all of it again. There's also the Dungeon Siege I never bothered installing because I wasn't interested.

In other words, no, I didn't try the demo of M&M: Dark Messiah. And I borrowed my HoMM1 cd to someone and haven't gotten it back yet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Endo I guess he meant that the Dark Messiah demo is 1.5 Gb. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
450 Mb for a demo is nothing in 2006. There are lot of games with ~1Gb demos...but I guess it is not important at all, since our internet connections are very fast..well at least for most of us.
I was downloading this demo with 2Mb/sec with my 6mbit dsl line [however it is not capped, so basically it is a 24mbit dsl line] from a local gaming site. It was downloaded in a few mins. If the gamershell link is not fast enough, try to look for a d/l link in your country, those are usually not capped.

PS. Dark Messiah is a fantasy "FPS". It looks very good, I might buy it actually, but hell knows, since I have lot less time to play with games in these months, and it will be even worse. I want to focus on Doms 3. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif


Do you like the SEV. demo? What can you say about it overall? Its better then SEIV.? Hm..I might take a look at this demo actually.

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I've played a bit more.
I must say that the AI is awesome in this game. You can play the Undead and the Elven faction in the demo. I've played a skirmish with 3 AIs. I teamed up with one. I was playing undead, just like my AI teammate. The 2 enemy AIs were with the Elves. Our asses were kicked badly. One of the AI players attacked with a huge force. I am not kidding the AI moved like 200 elvish archers, unicorn, griffins and other troops to my base in the same time. It seems that the AI is only attacking when its recruited huge amount of troops. My AI teammate was also owned by the other AI player. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif
I gotta play more with the Undead, becuase I've made lot of mistakes, even my AI teammte did much better then me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif
The MP will be also awesome. RTS fans must buy this. I've just pre-ordered the game in this minute.

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This game will need a Random Map Generator and/or Editor.
And if the maps are large enough... I will buy this game.
The larger the maps the better!

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Well you are able to play conquest [1 mission - 1 map] and skirmish [1 map]. The conquest mission map is huge. The skirmish map is a bit smaller but it is 4 player only. AFAIK there will be 8 player maps as well in the game.

Yes a random map generator would be nice... not to mention the editor. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

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I've downloaded this demo last week-end.

I found the game totally boring. I only tried the campaign mission and it was basically just learning how to use the (ultra powerful) few spells they give us. All units they give us are as good as dead at the next battle. Eventually, I got to the point where I could start building a base in the usual rts fashion but two seconds after I got started, the undead started to come in unending waves, single handedly killed by my ranger with a sword. And that's hundreds of undeads.

Eventually, I became bored of killing undeads coming from every direction and having my base ruined for the sixth time. If only it had included a tutorial of some sort. And the graphics are so zoomed out... nice zoomed out graphics are easy, and the story and dialogue feel cheesy.

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The AI is excellent. Frankly this is the best AI what I've seen so far. It is attacking with huge number of troops endlessly. I don't know if its cheating or not, but this was on normal diff. level. Try a skirmish game against the AIs. Its hardcore. I think that the game will require some balance. The Elven faction seems more powerful then the Undead. I've played 3 skirmish games so far, and the Elven AI steamrolled he Undead AI in all games. Mass archers just killed off the hundreds of skeletons and ghosts, and at that point the UD AI had no stronger troops only some mummies.
Anyways this game will be excellent for both SP and MP.

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You do realize that giving the AI huge resource bonuses, thus allowing hordes of units, isn't exactly "excellent AI" - it's the same thing that most strategy/wargames have done to make things more difficult for the human players, and is generally simply considered cheesy.

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How do you know that the AI is getting a resource bonus on "normal" difficulty level?
Anyways I can beat the Galciv2 "superAI" on the hardest setting without any problems, but the HoAE normal AI is better, its much harder to beat. Now I was playing more with the Undead, and I can beat the AI now on normal. However, Ive never ever seen this in any other strategy game, that the AI is moving huge forces in the same time. In fact listen to this. My AI teammate has attacked the enemy AI from 2 different directions. [front and rear attack] Not to mention that my teammate upgraded the skeletons 5 times so they were at maximum level. [3x def bonus and 2x att bonus] It was moving fliers and siege weapons with the core skeleton infantry. I am really impressed. SP fans will like this. Also imho the MP part will be awesome, which is very important for me. The whole system is excellent.

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I just downloaded the game and played two skirmirshes.

The AI really seems to know what it is doing, as I have seen it split it's forces to attack from two sides at once. Good thing he send his zombies (the hard hitting troops) the usual way, but sent his fast running mummies around my base to attack from behind and kill my workers - excellent.

But what about those heroes? It says that they will be back after 30 minutes, but I have the feeling that I played more than 30 minutes and never regained control over the hero. Bug maybe?

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Probably bug or I don't know. Btw try to play against an Elven AI on hard. Its insane hard. I was attacked by like 150 archers in a couple of mins. 2 mins later another 150 came and some other units. The AI is keep invading me with more and more troops. Awesome. I think that on "hard" the AI is starting with more resources, but not on normal.
Btw 2 interesting things.

1. The AI surely doesnt know the map. It is scouting with small armies.

2. The AI is using his resource gatherers very well. I suspected as my Undead ally AI has made like 40 necros to harvest stone, and hes also upgraded all his mines to the maximum.

I must say that I am impressed about the AI, and this is just a demo, I guess patches can make it even better if it will be needed.
Damn I can't wait to play MP. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

PS. I just had a crash with an error message. I had like 800 skeleton warriors, 250 mummies and some other units. I was building up a great invasion force. Maybe that was the problem. If this gonna happen once more, I will register on the official forum to post about it.