Hilarious R\'lyeh Dreamlands moment (SPOILER)
 

So... tonight I sit down to my first game of R'lyeh Dreamlands and LOVE it. I can't begin to tell you how great that Domain effect is at Dominion 10. Fodder aplenty with tons of Void Gate spawns showing up all over your Dominion free of charge (without Summoning mishaps even!) You also get a ton of free commanders, albeit insane ones who Ftaghn a lot.

But HERE is the REALLY cool part...

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wait for it...


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So, one of my insane hybrid cultist leaders was sitting around, doing insane things, when he decides to "Become Prophet". "Aw, how cute," I say. But I already have a Starspawn Prophet, so I figure it's just a wasted action. Then, the next turn, I see a proclamation stating that said cultist has become my Prophet! WHA? I go and check out my Starspawn Prophet. Yep, still there.

So, yes. I'm not sure if it's a bug or not, but R'lyeh Dreamlands is capable of having multiple Prophets.

They win. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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That's the side I cannot wait to play! Is there a pretender like C'Thulu to go along with the R'lyeh?

I've never played D2 except for the demo version, so I'm really itching for that game to arrive.

Maybe tomorrow... or the day after... grrrr.

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Well, there's no Cthulhu-type Pretender per se (although the illithid starspawn troops more than make up for that) but the Void Lurker looks more than a bit like Nyarlathotep. ;-)

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r'lyeh where meh favorite from dom2..


If prolly take a miracle for it to show up tomorrow. Darnable slow bank..

i wanna play tooo

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I always liked to name the ancient kraken pretender Cthulu. He's got all the really essential features.

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Interesting.

Y'know, my warped mind is wondering whether it's still possible to have multiple prophets through either Enslave Mind + Gift of Reason, or Hellbind Heart -- if memory serves, the prophet flag was not cleared by such spells in Dom II.

Granted, an insane prophet that spends most of his time dreaming may not be a very valuable commodity, but still.

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Sounds buggy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I wonder if mages will decide to randomly empower themselves while you're saving up for globals...

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lol currupt mages ftw

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Except the torso and the limbs and the wings and the...

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*edit*

Reply was removed, because I misreaded the original post. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif

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What multiple pretenders?

He was talking about multiple prophets.

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Argh I just woke up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif I tend to misread things because of that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif
..anyways this still sounds like a bug. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

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It is not a bug. R'lyeh is allowed have multiple prophets as long as they are insane.

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Oh! Interesting. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

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Neat. Do enslaved prophets still retain the prophet attribute? It was fun to keep them as trophies in Dom2. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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So Late R'lyeh gets freespawns? Can they recruit anything?

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Late R'lyeh gets freespawns, from what I've seen, in terms of mad hybrids, mad mermen, mad deep ones, and mad human cultists, depending on what sort of province you're in. Higher Dominions also have a better chance of giving you freespawning Void Gate summons (and I've gotten some good ones such as Formless Spawns and Elder Things), which is fantastic, given they retain access to the Void Gate AND these freespawns come at zero summoning risk.

As for recruiting anything, I'm not sure I follow the question. R'lyeh LE gets to recruit pretty much the same units as R'lyeh ME (which, in turn, is pretty much the R'lyeh you already know). Also, you'll have commanders occasionally freespawn. They're insane, so that limits your ability to reliably control them, but they do come with some fun perks such as being sacred and occasionally having level 1 in either Holy or Astral magic.

Good times!

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Interesting, interesting.

Do temples/luck/turmoil/magic/whatever apart from Dominins strenght affect the chance to get a free void summon?

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I will have to try out R'lyeh. I never bothered myself to play with them too much in Doms 2, but these changes are interesting. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

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R'lyeh is one of my faves, I just love Lobo Wave Tactics. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Imagine how huge the lobo waves are with doubled gold.

It's pretty impressive.

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Great, now I can make my own Battles of Ulmgrad with R'lyeh... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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And doubled rec screen (up to 100 units), and with Shift-click adding ten units per click, you can create huge lobo waves very fast.

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Hmmmm what's the Illithid Lord's commander values now?

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It is perfectly unbuggy!

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And there was much rejoicing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Now that I've heard it's working as designed I am inclided to...Ftaghn ftaghn!

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No no no. You've got it all wrong. All that really matters is...TENTACLES!

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Well, the Void Lord has a huge pink tentacle.

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Hrrrrrrrm.

Does the existence of an insane self-proclaimed prophet affect your ability to manually designate a prophet?

Weirder question: how about if you manually designate prophets among the insane? IOW, is there a difference between a manually-selected insane prophet and an self-proclaimed insane prophet?

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Excellent questions. I'll have to do some investigating to find out as, obviously, that wasn't the case in my experiment. I love all things R'lyeh, however, so I imagine I'll get the opportunity to find out sooner than later.

I'll need to load up my file once I get home to see if the self-proclaimed prophet got priest levels. I think he might have, although it may have only been one. I can't recall. He did, however, most certainly have the prophet icon. And, as the O's have verified, the fact that it isn't a bug (as I suspected) only contributes to the awesomeness that is R'lyeh.

IA!

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Wait, you can still make your _pretender_ insane, right ? Is this possible without R'lyeh Void Gate ? Is there a guaranteed way to make your pretender insane ? Gimme gimme !

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I know I'm going to be experimenting with insanity when my order arrives. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

So far we know that the insane can spend time dreaming, calling gods, entering magic sites (the Void Gate), and becoming prophets. I haven't seen any references to anything costing gems, involving troops, or movement yet, but...


Well now, what happened is, one of our base commanders, he had a sort of, well, he went a little funny in the head. You know. Just a little... funny. And uh, he went and did a silly thing. Well, I'll tell you what he did, he ordered his planes... to attack your country. Well let me finish, Dmitri. Let me finish, Dmitri.

Well, listen, how do you think I feel about it? Can you imagine how I feel about it, Dmitri?


From one of the funniest conversations in cinema, from one of the finest movies ever made, IMHO. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Well, in terms of costing gems, troops, movements, etc., the commanders function pretty much as expected in that they're normal commanders who just sometimes decide to ignore your orders. They can gather up troops spawned by the Dominion effect and shuffle them around quite nicely. You just have to be prepared for them to potentially misbehave while helming such troops. While I haven't seen it myself, I'd think twice before entrusting my insane hybrid cultist with 50 or so mad deep ones in my capital or another significant province. After all, what if they randomize to pillage or decide to step next door into a vast enemy force?

But, given that they can develop priest and Astral 1 abilities as they gain more insanity, these guys -can- cast spells, forge magic items, etc.

There's an insanity score, btw. It generally starts low (many of my mad cultists start off at 7) but it goes up as time progresses (I've seen it at 50). Also, your normal commanders can go insane in time within your dominion as well, as some of my enslaved Atlantean magi began to wig out and do unscripted orders as well. I have no idea as to whether this can happen to your Pretender as my Void Lurker was happily Imprisoned throughout my entire playthrough -- which may be a strategic element to consider as well for R-Dreamlands, as you gain massive scales/Dominion plusses for Imprisonment while getting the side benefit of not scoring Insanity in the early game, assuming it applies to your Pretender...

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Dig the Strangelove quote, btw.

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And it's soooo fitting. Stars being right, sleeping etc. So lovecraftian...

Messenger of Fear in sight
Dark deception kills the light

Hybrid children watch the sea
Pray for Father, roaming free

fearless Wretch
insanity
He watches
lurking beneath the sea
great Old One
forbidden site
He searches
Hunter of the Shadows is rising

immortal
in madness You dwell

Crawling Chaos, underground
cult has summoned, twisted sound

Out from ruins once possessed
fallen city, living death

fearless Wretch
insanity
He watches
lurking beneath the sea
Timeless sleep
Has been upset
He awakens
Hunter of the Shadows is rising

immortal
in madness You dwell

Not dead which eternal lie
stranger eons Death may die
drain you of your sanity
face The Thing That Should Not Be

fearless Wretch
insanity
He watches
lurking beneath the sea
great Old One
forbidden site
He searches
Hunter of the Shadows is rising

>:3

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*grin* I miss the old Cliff Burton Metallica that would reference Lovecraft every album.

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I quite like old Metallica too, not because only of the Lovecraft references but because it sounds good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif But I also like the newer Metallica too. And a lot of other music.

Speaking of Metallica, music and Dominions...a finnish band called Apocalyptica is worth checking out. Lots of Metallica covers...played with...cellos! It's wonderful stuff, one of my favorite bands. Their version of Nothing Else Matter is the most beatiful song I've ever heard.

And their own songs fit Dominions...heck, they even have a song called Harmageddon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I prefer older Metallica, but that's just a preference. I liked the epic, thrashy, 8-minute long compositions and prefer them to the more conventional structures they started using as of the Black album.

And I'm familiar with Apocalyptica. IIRC, they even did a soundtrack or two. Maybe a Neil LaBute film. But yes, that version of Nothing Else Matters rules. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I'll try to play Apo as background music for Dom 3 sometime. Some of their songs are too fast and metally to be anything else than a battle theme but they have also more ambient works. They also have made their own version of Hall of the Mountain King which is a classic. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

But ah, this is getting off topic. But I just try to promote Apocalyptica since I enjoy the band's music greatly. Kinda like I try to promoto Dominions series to other people.

And then I have to apologize to them when I start to ramble about Basalt Kings. BASALT KINGS!

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Yes, it was possible, but only to insane players such as Nagot Gick Fell or such ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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Absolutely true. And shows that Metallica have (had?) pretty good music, too - it's not just played loud and fast.

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Bad fate would befall me if I said "if it weren't play too loud and fast", right? I'm listening to wha tI think is it right now, with a strangest search result ever. A page with nothing to do with Metallica or Apocalyptica, that plays some kind of cello music in the background, and which turned up in a search for 'apocalyptica "nothing else matters"'. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif Eh?

It is very nice, I have to admit.

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Hm I never heard about Apocalyptica. However I prefer dance music, and as I see this is a metal band. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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If you want thematic music, there's always the Cthulhu Carols sung by members of the HP Lovecraft Historical Society.

http://www.cthulhulives.org/solstice

I sent a copy of their "A Very Scary Solstice" to my sister one Christmas. It's possible that she's forgiven me for that by now, but my sending "Alien" for her birthday probably didn't help.

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I just got D3 today, now I have to sit and work while looking at the desktop icon for 8 hours or so.

Of course I had to install it and start up a game to make sure it works... looks great, already have a Kraken (named C'Thulu, of course) slumbering in the deeps waiting for my labors to end.

The goal for the first game is to have the kingdom self-implode in chaos and insanity. I'll consider that a victory.

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To get this thread back to its tracks:

http://www.cthulhulives.org/solsticecarol.html

Taqwus, thanks SO much for that link. I've seen the cd's on a shop once but didn't like their unprofessional looks; oh, what I've missed! I'm buying this whenever I can. In the meantime, listen to a msemerizing song of horrors! "Stars brightly burning, boiling and churning, bode a returning season of doom" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

Here's another, shorter one. The style in these is just unbelievable. The singers are great, although they pronounce few words funnily Kathulu and Fong Re Lay? But... "oh, tidings of madness and woe, madness and woe, oh tidings of madness and woe (and great woe)..."
http://www.cthulhulives.org/Solstice...wakesample.mp3

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EDIT: I see that Livejournal cares not for the image-linking. Well, you can follow the URLs for the moment. Again with the too tired and full of work to fix the issue. If someone wants to help me correct this, I'm all for it.


A few pics, as I'm too tired and full of work to do an AAR this evening:

Goodness. Look at these guys who're turning up all over my kingdom:
[image]http://pics.livejournal.com/jaydedone/pic/0000h3tw[/image]
[image]http://pics.livejournal.com/jaydedone/pic/0000q007[/image]

Just to give you an idea, by Turn 10, I had this little group of buddies show up in one of my provinces:
[image]http://pics.livejournal.com/jaydedone/pic/0000r0p4[/image]

All told, I'd say by Turn 13, I had roughly 60-70 deep one/merman dreamers spawned with my Dominion 10 Void Lurker imprisoned and my Prophet dead for half those turns due to a stupid Arena scripting mistake.

By the way, hey... This looks... new...

[image]http://pics.livejournal.com/jaydedone/pic/0000kqt1[/image]

Why, yes. Yes I do believe that's new.
[image]http://pics.livejournal.com/jaydedone/pic/0000pqtp[/image]

BTW, the random map generator's really pretty good. Here's a map I generated with about ten minutes of fiddling with the controls:

[image]http://pics.livejournal.com/jaydedone/pic/0000cw87[/image]

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Then you may want to check Korpiklaani http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif