Hotfix or not? Developer comment would be good.
 

I know from at least 1 MP game which stalled because of the Horror bug which comes with 3.01.

The game isn't started now but we don't know what to do.

Should we start with 3.01 and hope that noone cries because his pretender dies in a horror attack in the second round of the game or should we downgrade to 3.00, instruct all player how to do this and start 1 day before illwinter comes with a hotfix.

So a developer comment about a possible hotfix would be very good to give us some points to start the game later or with/without a patch.

All about the bug:
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...o=&fpart=1

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Yes could u give us MP people some idea, when it will be fixed. All 4 MP's I am in have stalled (I think we r all hoping for a fix), if it's not anytime soon then we can go back to v3.00.

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I agree.

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In 3.00, Horror Marking can kill your pretender. This has been changed for 3.01. I didn't test the spell itself, but horrors killing a Risen Oracle multiple times won't cause him so severe Horror Mark he would be killed every turn.

I think it's possible to change Hall of Fame via some command line parameters. If it can be switched to 0, there won't be any Heroes to be attacked by the Hunter.

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Hotfix would be good.

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bump

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Would it be possible to make a mod that significantly weakens the units that Horror Mark sends? (I admit, I haven't tried to look at the modding commands)

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Weakening the Hunter of Heroes should be easy enough. He is the only horror affected by the bug.

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Fix yes, but hot no. It will be fixed in the next patch. I don't know when it will be ready but it won't be this week.

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I'm sorry to hear that, since the Doom Horror bug makes the current patch kinda worthless by completely wrecking MP games.

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Does the doom horror bug only effect a specific era?

The reason I ask is because I'm playing two multiplayer LAN games and haven't experienced this nasty bug.
(4 commanders in the hall of fame ranging from mercenaries to regular commanders I bought)
(the other game has about 3 commanders in the hall of fame)


From the link calmon provides another gamer ' Hetzer ' was also not experiencing this issue.

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Well it definitely effects early era (as my 30 defence, 6 attack per turn, mistformed, mirror images taking up 9 squares, 290 health, awe +2 never-tiring pretender will tell you)

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lol

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Well if your pretender died from one of these horrors having that kind of build then it sounds like the super horrors need to be nerfed or made very rare.

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The Hunter of Heroes seems intented to kill anyone it attacks.

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Problem is my pretender lacked lifedrain, regen, luck, ethereality and i hadnt boosted him mr.

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They have been made very rare. Testing with Risen Oracle and Mictlan who had access to 1-slave Send Horror, it took a long time before horrors started attacking him regularly, and Doom Horrors were nowhere as common as they were in 3.00. I don't think they are rare, yet, but if the new Hunter of Heroes bug is fixed, they only appear after severe Horror Marking (i.e. Astral Geyser) and aren't common even then.

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The etherealness won't matter; all their attacks are flagged magic. Also, luck rapidly ceases to matter due to Curse Luck. Can't remember if they're flagged lifeless or not.

MR, however, must be boosted esp. against the Hunter of Heroes's instadeath Consume Soul.

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I think "The Hunter of Heroes" is a coward http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif After getting hit with morph bug after defeating The Hunter of Heroes I wanted to check if the battle vs him always result in morphing. But he has never attacked since then (I could think that he stayed dead in the same game, but he hasn't attacked in other game either). Curious...

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My guess is the Hunter of Heroes bug only effects the early era, but I haven't heard anything official.

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It affects all eras, however, the Luck scale does have some protection against it. For example I've only had it happen once in Luck2, and never in Luck3, no matter how many turns I run.

Also I think it grows in chances the more kills/advancement into the HoF you do.

Misfortune 2 or 3 you will get hit by it, some games very often.

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It's a pity. Having your pretender/HOF SCs killed by a bug can ruin MP game for the player. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif


I hope fix will come out soon. I also hope none of my MP game hosts would upgrade to 3.01, but they all did. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif((

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It might be a very good idea actually. Kindof player-made hotfix.


I haven't played with dom moding yet. Is changing stats of HOH easy to do? If so, if someone would do it a post link to his mod on the forum, it would be awesome.

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http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...o=&fpart=1

The only problem is : a mod can only change the hunter stats for games started with it.

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Nope, I just saw it on my 1st hosted pbem turn with 3.01 in a MA game. It killed my prophet, I killed the patch (reinstalled 3.00 and reran the turn)! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

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Or games started with ANY mod. That mod can be added "inside" the other mod, if mods can still be changed after the game has started. Of course, then everyone playing would have to download the new, "patched", mod, and the "patched" mod's filename would have to be the same as the original mod's... but at least in theory, it's possible.

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Tried several games with luck +2 or +3, and got attacked at least once or twice each game after a few years.
If luck indeed reduce the chance of attack, I don't want to know how it would be with misfortune ! ^_^



HoF ranking might indeed increase the chance of attack, but even then, it should be something very rare, that happens once in 10 games or less, not several times each game.

I like the concept of a horror hunting famous heroes, but playwise, this should not happen so much (currently it seems worse to be in the HoF that to be horror marked), and should not happen to pretenders

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Servers should get in the habit of making a backup copy of at LEAST the dom.exe they are using when they patch. In case players dont want to patch for any reason then you can host the game on the old exe while still using the new exe for other purposes (hosting other games or playing)