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rsolow November 14th, 2006 06:02 PM

Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???!?!?
 
I am looking to take advantage of the Dragon Master Spell. These spells should work with it:

Summon Fire Drake
Summon Cave Drake
Summon Ice Drake
Summon Wyvern

1) But, what about the spell "Iron Dragon" (page 175) -- will that work with Dragon Master ???

2) Are there any spells other than those I listed that work with Dragon Master

Shovah32 November 14th, 2006 07:13 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???!?!?
 
Im not sure if there are any others but im almost certain dragon master wouldnt work with iron dragon or tarrasque.

Folket November 14th, 2006 07:20 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???!?!?
 
Seems very strange that is does not work with Tarrasque.

B0rsuk November 14th, 2006 07:23 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 
Quote:

Folket said:
Seems very strange that is does not work with Tarrasque.

Yes, it should work for dragon pretenders, too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

Endoperez November 14th, 2006 07:29 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???!?!?
 
1) I haven't tested it, but I don't think so. Iron Dragon is a construct, after all.

2) Not to my knowledge. I'm fairly certain it doesn't affect Tarrasques.

Folket November 15th, 2006 05:51 AM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 
It seems Thematical that it would work with Tarraques. They are dragons after all. Iron Dragon is just a mimic.

Shovah32 November 15th, 2006 02:30 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 
But i thought the spell specifically says drake or wyvern?

Uh-Nu-Buh November 15th, 2006 10:04 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 
There is only one Tarrasque, I believe--so it shouldn't work with Awaken Tarrasque. Just summon spells, just dragons.

Yes summon Wyvern.
No construct Iron Dragon.
No awaken Tarrasque.
No construct Apocalyptic Bone Dragon.

Cainehill November 16th, 2006 03:59 AM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 

Eh - believe that's AD&D thinking there. Pretty sure I've had multiple tarrasques in one MP game some time ago, had some fun empowering them in multiple magic paths so they could do fire shield, cloud trapeze, etc. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Louie_Calamari November 16th, 2006 08:06 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarasque

Uh-Nu-Buh November 16th, 2006 08:07 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 
Dom II, I'm pretty sure a new Tarrasque took the place of old Tarrasque. I actually tried it on purpose once, but it has been 2 years so maybe I am misremembering. I haven't tried this in Dom III yet.

I'll give it a try if one of my current games allows.

NTJedi November 16th, 2006 08:48 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 
Quote:

Uh-Nu-Buh said:
Dom II, I'm pretty sure a new Tarrasque took the place of old Tarrasque.

Actually that wasn't the case... I recall having done gift of reason on multiple Tarrasque and having them fight side by side in battle.
If only one can be summoned in Dom_3 then this is a new change. Hopefully the dragon beast was improved if only one can exist.

mivayan November 16th, 2006 09:34 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 
Tarrasques are identical to dom2, except the path requirement, as far as I can tell. Definately not a unique summon.

Uh-Nu-Buh November 17th, 2006 12:59 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 
When I can test it, I will post the result.

calmon November 17th, 2006 01:35 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 
I've tested it, it only works for wyverns and drakes (like the description said).

Only 1 Tarrasque and only 1 iron drake per cast.

Shovah32 November 17th, 2006 01:57 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 
Well in dom2 atleast ive had 10+ tarrasques in a single battle so they definitely were not unique then, i doubt if its been changed since then but its possible.

Cainehill November 18th, 2006 02:21 AM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 
Quote:

Shovah32 said:
Well in dom2 atleast ive had 10+ tarrasques in a single battle so...

Those were tarrasques??? I thought those were someone's ex-girl(/boy/beast)friends! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

LeSquide November 21st, 2006 07:15 PM

Re: Does \"Iron Dragon\" = \"Drake\" or \" Wyvern\" ???
 
Sadly, it doesn't appear to work with Sirrushes, either.


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