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Possum November 23rd, 2006 11:34 PM

Does System Computer Complex...
 
Does System Computer Complex add any additional benefits, after I already have a Central Computer Complex III on each of my Research Compound planets?

This is, of course, an SE4 question.

Captain Kwok November 24th, 2006 01:46 AM

Re: Does System Computer Complex...
 
They stack together.

Possum November 25th, 2006 09:58 PM

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No [censored]? Wow, that's cool...and here all this time, I've been under the impression they did not stack.

Captain Kwok November 25th, 2006 11:39 PM

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The game generally allows one instance of each ability to be applied - using the best one in cases where there is more than one.

PvK November 26th, 2006 12:46 AM

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I think (85%) there was an earlier version where they didn't stack...

Fyron November 26th, 2006 02:59 AM

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Would have been around 1.2 at the latest.

PvK November 26th, 2006 04:59 PM

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Yes, it's a faint memory which someone reminded me about semi-recently. I thought it was around the Gold release.

I think I was probably confusing it with the change in 1.89 to the values of some of the levels:
2. Changed - Mineral Scanner I, II, III have had their modifiers increased to 15%, 30%, 45%.
3. Changed - Hybrid Eco - Farms I, II, III have had their modifiers increased to 15%, 30%, 45%.
4. Changed - Radioactives Collider I, II, III have had their modifiers increased to 15%, 30%, 45%.
5. Changed - System Mineral Scanner I, II, III have had their modifiers increased to 15%, 30%, 45%.
6. Changed - System Eco - Farms I, II, III have had their modifiers increased to 15%, 30%, 45%.
7. Changed - System Radioactives Collider I, II, III have had their modifiers increased to 15%, 30%, 45%.

PvK

Possum November 28th, 2006 02:47 PM

Re: Does System Computer Complex...
 
OK, that's why then. I probably tested it back 5 years ago when the game was new, found it didn't stack, and totally missed the later change.

PvK, so what about those you list above? If I have a Robotics Factory III on my mineral-producing planet, then later build a System Mineral Scanner III, do both those bonuses stack?

Would Mineral Scanner III stack with System Mineral Scanner III? Enquiring minds want to know!

Slick November 28th, 2006 06:18 PM

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Robotoid won't stack with a Mineral Scanner because they use the same ability - the higher value would be used. The planet-wide ability does stack with the system-wide ability as Kwok mentioned.

douglas November 29th, 2006 07:14 PM

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Robotoid + Mineral Scanner = 45% increase (only better value works)
System Robotoid + System Mineral Scanner = 45% increase (only better value works)
Robotoid + System Robotoid = 69% (stack multiplicatively)
Robotoid + System Mineral Scanner = 88.5% increase
Mineral Scanner + System Robotoid = 88.5% increase
Mineral Scanner + System Mineral Scanner = 110.25% increase

Note that the increase from system-wide facilities will not be shown on the individual planets. The only figure the game displays that includes that bonus is the empire-wide total.

PvK November 29th, 2006 11:07 PM

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I didn't realize SE4 could stack multiplicatively. I thought it only knew how to add.

Fyron November 30th, 2006 02:43 AM

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There are very few things that stack multiplicatively, rather than linearly.

douglas November 30th, 2006 03:06 AM

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I'm not completely sure, but this and planet values might actually be the only things that stack multiplicatively in the entire game. Note also that robotoids, etc. stack multiplicatively with all other bonuses as well, not just planetary/system versions of themselves. The full expression for resource production is planet value * total base production * total non-robotoid-like modifiers * best planetary "robotoid" * best system "robotoid".

PvK December 2nd, 2006 09:06 PM

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Interesting, thanks.


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