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Can be found at http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/viking.htm
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The battlecuiser is giving the finger like it is saying go F... yourself.
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The "figurehead" is taken a little bit too far, I think. The segmented look to imitate the "clinkerbuilt" design of a viking longship is much more promising. It would be more effective if it were "longitudinal" like the original clinkerbuilt ships. Would be amusing to put a solar sail on them by default (and have the race always research solar harnessing and use them). The hammer as a space station design is pretty good.
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Those are neat pictures. Doing them in 3D in Moray would be tough, at least for me. It would take a good Moray person to carve the head just right
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Bah, the Baron is just jealous http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif
Dogscoff, those designs ROCK, dude!!! |
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Thanks for the encouraging responses.
Dracus: That was intentional, imagine seeing that coming towards you in battle=-) Baron: Points taken on board. I have considered going horizontal rather than vertical but I think it would just accentuate the flawed perspective. I might try to do something with it when I get to the colouring stage. As for the figurehead, I know what you mean, I think I will experiment with some smaller ones. Oh, and I always intended to put sails on, although I wasn't necessarily going to put them into the AI. I might though... I'll use this thread to give notification of updates to the page. ------------------ "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "Uh, I think so, Brain, but balancing a family and a career ... oooh, it's all too much for me. " |
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A small update - I've added a prototype racial portrait. Still no colour.
Haven't had much time to work on the ships lately, but I will be doing more soon. I haven't forgotten your suggestions either, Baron. URL as always: http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/viking.htm ------------------ "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "Uh, I think so, Brain, but balancing a family and a career ... oooh, it's all too much for me. " |
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Great work!
I can't wait to use them! |
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Vikings in space? Now that's an odd idea... I like it. ;-)
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Great Idea, it's an old classic.
The ships look cool and are certainly original. I look forward to seeing the finished result. "In Odins name, we hail thee." "False peace with bad friends, burns faster than fire. In a few days the flame goes out, all love is lost" |
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Yeah, I can't wait to start work on the speech files, I intend to draw heavily on the legends and Gods to create mythological metaphors for game events:
"All the things in all the worlds wept for Baldur's death. I suspect you shall not be so well mourned." ...and so on. I also intend to make frequent and innapropriate use of the ö character=-) ------------------ "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so Brain but, if you replace the P with an O, my name would be Oinky, wouldn't it?" |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dogscoff:
I also intend to make frequent and innapropriate use of the ö character=-) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Don't forget ĺ and ä. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif |
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Ĺ, Ä and Ö?
Didn't the Vikings use runes and not the alphabet? ------------------ "The best way to seek help is to help the best seek the way." -Philter |
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Can't wait to see this ship set
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Yep the Vikings used Runes, but the language when translated into latinised script contains many letter variants including the seething th/dh sound.
The tears for Baldur phrase sounds good. "No man is so generous he will jibe at accepting. A gift in return for a gift, No man so rich that it really gives him pain to be repaid." "Better not to ask than to overpledge As a gift demands a gift, Better not to send than to slay too many." Quotes coutesy of the Havamal |
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OK, another new update is out. Lots of new images, and quite a few replacements. I'm also showing *all* of the images so far rather than a select few.
I've also added a few sub pages: :A "what is this?" page for ppl who see my page but know nothing about space empires. :a history page which shows what has been changed, and when. It also has some of the old images which I discarded. :a notes page which shows my thought processes as I work on the shipset. Thought this might be interesting / useful. :a mod data page. Details of this in the parallel thread "Modders and shipset creators - please read". Feedback in this thread and/or the parallel thread as appropiate will be very much appreciated. Oh, and you'll see I have come up with 2 designs for the fast courier. I can't decide which one I prefer - please voice your opinion here. ------------------ "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so Brain but, if you replace the P with an O, my name would be Oinky, wouldn't it?" |
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I vote for Fast Courier 1. #2 doesn't look quite right without a neck (IMO).
Great shipset, dogscoff! Makes me want to plunder the high seas! Quikngruvn ------------------ "That which does not kill you will make you stronger." -- Nietzsche |
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...bump... (for Rollo)
{Plundering the high seas} Funny you should mention that, I plan to make Space Viking images for the Pirates and Nomads mod as well, for maximum pillaging pleasure=-) ------------------ "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so Brain but, if you replace the P with an O, my name would be Oinky, wouldn't it?" [This message has been edited by dogscoff (edited 26 July 2001).] |
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Dogscoff, CivII has some city names for Vikings. Have/want a list to incorporate into your shipset?
Quikngruvn ------------------ "That which does not kill you will make you stronger." -- Nietzsche |
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Thanks, it could be worth a look. I've been wondering names ile what to use, since I think Norse mythology has already been used for other shipsets. I was considering a list based on different beers, or maybe "pillage", "burn", "loot" etc, but it would be hard to think of enough of those without clashing with other lists.
Please post the list or mail it to me, I'll have a look. ------------------ "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so Brain but, if you replace the P with an O, my name would be Oinky, wouldn't it?" |
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Hello dogscoff,
thanks for bumping this thread. I didn't know it was actually you who is doing the Viking shipset (duh, I kind of feel stupid right now). Maybe my post in the other thread sounded a little odd. I thought I was talking about a third person... Anyway, I've looked at the preview shipset. I love it! I also vote for Fast Courier #1. (Whats a FC anyway, which mod?) <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>originally posted by dogscoff (in the Spiralus PBW thread): Wierd coincidence... I've was drawing Space Viking comics at school. ooOOOOoooOOOOooh!! ANyway, permission to use it is yours as soon as it's working. I'd also love some help with the AI files, although I'm more worried about the "clever" stuff (i design files, anger files) than the spech, which I already have some ideas for. Anyway, we're getting off topic. Can we continue this conversation on the proper thread? I'll bump it to the top of the forum for you... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well, thanks a lot for your permission. I am sorry that I can't be much of assistance with the AI files. I only have this game for about a week now and have no experience with designing AI at all (always willing to learn, though). Maybe we should ask some of the expert modders about this (suicide_junkie: HEEEEELP !). All I can offer you is mostly moral support and my opinion on things. Maybe the small and medium freighter should look somewhat more like the big one (which looks great). Right now they look more like the warships (destroyer, light cruiser). Anyway, if I can suppport you in any way, feel free to contact me (email in profile). Keep up the good work, Rollo (a Space Viking by heart) |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I only have this game for about a week now and have no experience with designing AI at all (always willing to learn, though). Maybe we should ask some of the expert modders about this (suicide_junkie: HEEEEELP !).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>My AI experience is actually quite limited, basically only what I needed to get AIs working with all of my modded components, shipsizes, techareas & such. I have read nearly all the Posts on this forum, though, and I'd be willing to look into any specific questions you have.
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Viking city names from Civilization II's "CIVILIZATION CITY LIST"
(Copyright (c) 1995 by MicroProse Software) Trondheim Kaupang Uppsala Hladir Aarhus Viborg Roskilde The Udal Lindholm Jorvik Westness Jarrow Skara Ravning Enge Birka Jarlshof Sigtuna Odense Lunde Larne Hedeby Aldeigjuborg Holmgard Nonnebakken Ribblehead Thwaite Askrigg Trelleborg Risby Jelling Vorbasse Fyrkat Kvivik I hope this helps! (If this post appears to be too much of a copyright infringement on Microprose, let me know and I'll delete this post with all expedient speed.) Quikngruvn ------------------ "That which does not kill you will make you stronger." -- Nietzsche |
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dogscoff,
I've been making my own race portrait and flag for the Vikings. I doubt that you will include them in your set, but they will be be ones I'll be using (for the meantime). If you want to see them, I can mail them to you. Rollo |
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Quik..vn: Thanks for the names. Probably not enough there for a full shipset, and the copyright thing makes me a little twitchy, but it's food for thought.
Rollo: Yeah I'd love to see your images. Post them or mail me (dogscoff@altavista.co.uk). You can even have some webspace for it if you want. Thanks for the feedback too. The fast courier, corvette etc are to be used with Devnullmod. That mod doesn't even support additional images yet, but I'm hoping it soon will. There are details of the mods supported on the site, as well as information about how and why I made each image and more besides. It's all linked to from the top of the main viking.htm page. Oh, and don't worry about being an SEIV newbie - by the time I get the viking images finished you'll be an old veteran. (it's taking me ages to do them all=-) Voting so far: Fast courier #1 : 2 Fast courier #2 : 0 ------------------ "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so Brain but, if you replace the P with an O, my name would be Oinky, wouldn't it?" |
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I will email them to you this afternoon.
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Given that I recognize several of the names as modern-day cities, and that you could find them all in historical atlases, I really doubt there's a copyright issue.
------------------ Cap'n Q The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu" |
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dogscoff, I have sent you the images. Have you received them?
suicide_junkie, thank you for your offer to help. I'll try and fiddle around with the AI files over the weekend. I bet I'll have a lot of questions (and I'll try to be specific about them http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif). Rollo |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by capnq:
Given that I recognize several of the names as modern-day cities, and that you could find them all in historical atlases, I really doubt there's a copyright issue. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Actually, if we were really antsy about copyright, a good chunk of races and shipsets (read: Star Trek-based) would not have been posted. I put the copyright info as a CYA for the post itself, since I copied and pasted straight from the CivII file. Quikngruvn ------------------ Ponder this: Scientists already knew that matter is 98% empty space. After they figured out the structure of protons, they determined the remaining 2% is mostly made up of... well, nothing. Who says God doesn't have a sense of humor? |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>suicide_junkie, thank you for your offer to help. I'll try and fiddle around with the AI files over the weekend. I bet I'll have a lot of questions (and I'll try to be specific about them)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You'll have to wait till monday for any of my replies, since I'll be up north in a lake all weekend http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by suicide_junkie:
You'll have to wait till monday for any of my replies, since I'll be up north in a lake all weekend http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You're going to be in a lake all weekend? Man, you're gonna be all wrinkled when you get out! Quikngruvn |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by suicide_junkie:
You'll have to wait till monday for any of my replies, since I'll be up north in a lake all weekend http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Have fun http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif. The weekend will probably be over anyway before any serious questions come up http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif. Rollo |
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Hi,
I have been working on the AI for the Space Vikings and have posted the 0.9 Version over at the mod archive. If any of you are interested, check them out and give me some feedback. Thanks, Rollo |
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Random item of information: I saw on "Jeopardy!" tonight that the Vikings used ravens on their ships' flags for good fortune in battle, in case you want to incorporate that.
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Testing new .sig
The ravens are a good Idea. Odin had 2 pet Ravens which brought him news. Can't remember their names though, one of them might have been Skoggi. Doesn't matter, might use them on the racial or infantry pics (on a shield or something.) ------------------ SE4 Code: L $>$!+ Fr- C- Sd T!+ Sf-- TCP-- A% M+ MpD! RPV Pw! Fq++ Nd->Nd+++ Rp+ G- /SE4 Code http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/viking.htm |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dogscoff:
I knew about Sleipnir (The name of my fast couriers when playing Devnullmod) but not the wolves. Who was Skoggi then? Was that one of the Dwarves? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Hmm, I know a little bit about norse mythology, but I have not heard about Skoggi, yet. I'll some research and let you know, if I find something. Other norse myth. animals: Svadilfari: Sleipnirs father Tanngrisni & Tanngnost: Thor's goats that pull his chariot Gulltop: Heimdall's horse Rollo |
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Hi, again
sorry couldn't find anything on Skoggi. Some more trivia: Did you know it was Loki (the Trickster) who gave birth to Sleipnir? Anyway, if you are interested in Norse Mythology you should click here. Rollo |
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Thinking about it Skoggi might hav been a mid-80s Scandinavian electro-pop group.
Yes I did know that about Sleipnir, but I had forgotten until you reminded me. ------------------ SE4 Code: L $>$!+ Fr- C- Sd T!+ Sf-- TCP-- A% M+ MpD! RPV Pw! Fq++ Nd->Nd+++ Rp+ G- /SE4 Code http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/viking.htm |
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Odin's ravens were Hugin and Munin ("Thought" and "Memory"). He also had two wolves named Freke and Gere, and an eight-legged horse named Sleipner.
------------------ Cap'n Q The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu" |
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I knew about Sleipnir (The name of my fast couriers when playing Devnullmod) but not the wolves.
Who was Skoggi then? Was that one of the Dwarves? ------------------ SE4 Code: L $>$!+ Fr- C- Sd T!+ Sf-- TCP-- A% M+ MpD! RPV Pw! Fq++ Nd->Nd+++ Rp+ G- /SE4 Code http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/viking.htm |
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Skoggi is not listed in my intro to Viking Mythology book.
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Hey Dogscoff do you have a functional Version of your pictures to use with Rollo’s AI?
I might be able to help convert pictures to 3d, but I already have too many unfinished projects. |
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I painted Dogscoff's ships and combined them with Rollo's AI to make a full shipset.
Waiting for their approval to post it here. |
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Hey Dogscoff do you have a functional Version of your pictures to use with Rollo’s AI? I might be able to help convert pictures to 3d, but I already have too many unfinished projects. /QUOTE Nope. Sorry. There has been work done since the Last upload but progress is slow and I've always said it will be. I haven't stopped working on them and I will get them finished eventually. QUOTE: I painted Dogscoff's ships and combined them with Rollo's AI to make a full shipset. Waiting for their approval to post it here. /QUOTE Yow! I'd better check my webmail. I did have some very definite ideas about the colours and things I wanted to include so I might get a little grouchy about this, but thanks for the contribution. ------------------ SE4 Code: L Gd! $ Fr- C- Sd T!+ Sf-- Tcp-- A% M>M+ MpD Pw RV Fq+ Nd- Rp+ G- /SE4 Code http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/se4main.htm |
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Thank you Andres,
both for your work and your interest. I guess that will be entirely up to dogscoff, since I just do the AI and dogscoff does the graphics. Just let me point out a few things: 1. The AI files are still under construction and currently in testing. I will post any changes in them in the mod archive to keep everybody updated. Current Version is 0.91, but if the Lastest changes have the desired effect, I might be comfortable enough to go 1.0 in the next update for the AI http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif. 2. Currently the AI uses the generic (neutral) shipset with their own flag for testing purposes. So they can be already used and included in games. Using the painted pictures you did is fine with me. As I said before, it's up to dogscoff, if he feels comfortable with this. Right now, I personally still prefer to use the generic ships, because they remind me that there is still work to be done... http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif. 3. The current racename is Rollvik (short for Rollos Vikings). This is just a temporary name for testing and PBM use. It is the flag and ships I use for my PBM games.I did this to avoid confusion with the official Viking shipset. I guess, if we are going to use the painted pictures, we will have to make a new racename. 4. Have you played with the AI, yet? If yes, let me know what you think. Please post only praise here and keep criticism private (email) http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif. Just kidding, of course... Rollo [edit] typos [This message has been edited by Rollo (edited 23 August 2001).] |
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Whoops, dogscoff posted, while I was still typing... I hate when that happens.
Rollo |
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One thing I forgot to mention: there is a small, but important patch for the Viking AI that I posted in the mod archive.
Rollo |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The AI files are still under construction and currently in testing. I will post any changes in them in the mod archive to keep everybody updated. Current Version is 0.91, but if the Lastest changes have the desired effect, I might be comfortable enough to go 1.0 in the next update for the AI . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's ok. AIs can be updated even after a shipset is considered finished. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Nope. Sorry. There has been work done since the Last upload but progress is slow and I've always said it will be. I haven't stopped working on them and I will get them finished eventually. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Does that mean you have some more picture you haven't uploaded to your site yet. Sizes missing by now would be colony ships, space stations and starbases (I used resized Versions of the battlestation) and all units (fighters, troops, weap plats and sats), do you have pics for any of them? <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Yow! I'd better check my webmail. I did have some very definite ideas about the colours and things I wanted to include so I might get a little grouchy about this, but thanks for the contribution.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Hope you like what I've done. It will be considered temporary until you provide your own official Version. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The current racename is Rollvik (short for Rollos Vikings). This is just a temporary name for testing and PBM use. It is the flag and ships I use for my PBM games.I did this to avoid confusion with the official Viking shipset. I guess, if we are going to use the painted pictures, we will have to make a new racename. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You're right. I'd better rename it something like just "Viking" <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Have you played with the AI, yet? If yes, let me know what you think. Please post only praise here and keep criticism private (email) . Just kidding, of course... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> AI seems to work fine in my test. Maybe they are a little too friendly. Weapon combination seems to work fine and their battlecruiser sized colony ships are really tougher than normal ones. |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Andrés Lescano:
AI seems to work fine in my test. Maybe they are a little too friendly. Weapon combination seems to work fine and their battlecruiser sized colony ships are really tougher than normal ones.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Did you try them before or after the 0.91patch? They were way too friendly before the patch. Partly, because I did name the settings file wrong, I guess. I am still not really familiar about the diplomacy and anger stuff. That is kind of hard to test also, I think, because it depends on so many different factors. I was concentrating on the research, designs and all that. Let me know, if you notice anything else http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif. Btw, Andres, I visited your website today and really love the stuff I have seen there. I noticed that some of the shipsets don't have an AI, yet. If you are willing to give a newbie AI modder a chance, maybe we can do somthing together after the Vikings are done. Rollo |
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rollo:
Did you try them before or after the 0.91patch? They were way too friendly before the patch. Partly, because I did name the settings file wrong, I guess. I am still not really familiar about the diplomacy and anger stuff. That is kind of hard to test also, I think, because it depends on so many different factors. I was concentrating on the research, designs and all that. Let me know, if you notice anything else http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I had even noticed the spelling mistake in the file name and corrected in my system before the patch was released, but I installed the patch before starting that test. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Btw, Andres, I visited your website today and really love the stuff I have seen there. I noticed that some of the shipsets don't have an AI, yet. If you are willing to give a newbie AI modder a chance, maybe we can do somthing together after the Vikings are done. Rollo<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Most shipsets have AI, altough many are just copied from another shipset (not all are listed in the site, something I started doing later). But sure, you can make AI files for any of my races. |
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