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Kana	January 10th, 2007 09:27 PM

New Starfire book...

Or at least one I was unaware of...

http://www.amazon.com/Exodus-Starfir.../dp/1416520988

Randallw

January 10th, 2007 09:43 PM

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PES and myself were discussing that book in the SFTC thread. At least I think we were, I can't seem to find it.

President_Elect_Shang

January 10th, 2007 10:25 PM

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In the SFTC Thread Page 4 Randallw said:
I didn't make that ship, it's from the SE4 Army of Darkness set, that's just how I always imagine them, rectangular with sensor spires, but with a vaguely organic look.

Edit: A new book came out a few weeks ago. Aliens with STL city ships discover the allies but consider them unintelligent because they communicate differently.

http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1416520...226699-0228445

President_Elect_Shang

January 10th, 2007 10:26 PM

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In the next post President_Elect_Shang said:
I heard about that book around spring '06. I am a little worried since Webber isn't working on the project. White didn't start working with Weber till after Weber had remade StarFire back when it was still owned by TFG. Besides White's writing style can get a little *ahem* tedious. It's still published by Bean which of small comfort to me. I have read the synopsis that comes with the book and it sounds too much like an attempt to remake the glory days of crusade. A race of zealots that are willing to sacrifice themselves in the name of a cause... The more I think of it the more I think I will pass this one up. Although it does make me wonder what type of Uber-technology they will write into this book. I doubt White will have been concerned with any of the "gaming" aspects. At least Weber made valiant attempts to keep the new books in perspective with what players could add to the game.

President_Elect_Shang

January 10th, 2007 10:28 PM

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And right now I said:

I still will wait to hear some reviews from others first. I don't expect the book to be worth the money they are asking. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

narf poit chez BOOM

January 10th, 2007 10:45 PM

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If the picture on the front is the aliens, definitly passing. Might was well hold up a big sign saying 'EXTREME CAMP, RIGHT HERE!!111ElevenOneity!!'

Randallw

January 10th, 2007 11:53 PM

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That's what got me confused. She is an anthromorphic alien, yet the excerpt (available at Baen site) has the aliens with tentacles. On closer inspection her hands appear to have little tentacles in place of fingers. I can live with cat people, though it get old that every time they mention the Orions look like cats they throw in the obligatory elephants are closer to cats than Orions, but it gets even older when the aliens are humans with perhaps extra bits and different coloured skin. In Star Trek it's so they can keep the budget down, but I tend to think anthroporthising aliens makes us too prone to thinking, at a subconscious level, that they should be treated as funny looking humans rather than as aliens with nothing in common with us that should be a threat if only as competition.

Spectarofdeath

January 11th, 2007 12:56 AM

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"Never judge a book by it's cover"......After all, if you didn't know anything about SEV, would you BUY it based on the box art?? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Phoenix-D

January 11th, 2007 02:21 AM

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Yeah, SF box art..sucks. Its actually a fun little game to go through my collection and see which cover arc resembles the book the least.

The winner so far is Storm Runner, with its radioactive glowing huskie and SR-78 atop a grid background. None of which relates to the book at all.

Randallw

January 11th, 2007 02:31 AM

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I was reading once about Sci-fi in the 50's. An author, perhaps Poul Anderson or someone of that level, was explaining he had a friend who did covers and apaprently they are so busy doing cover after cover they don't have the time to read the book and get an idea what's inside. Thus you end up with the same giant green alien/robot/monster menacing the heroine while the hero looks on with his raygun. Not as bad as that these days but I guess perhaps they are busy. In the Posleen books I've seen 2 different images of them, either giant crocodiles or velociraptors.

mrscrogg

January 11th, 2007 02:44 AM

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The book is a pale comparision of the first 4 books , it's just not as " tightly " written , and even though I enjoyed some of Steve White's previous books you can tell it was Dvid Webber who fleshed out the battle scenes in the other books

President_Elect_Shang

January 11th, 2007 03:48 AM

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As I pointed out before it was David Webber that took the head of StarFire while under the ownership of Task Force Games. It was Webber that turned the game around and saved it from becoming history. The battles and technology match the books and the games because the same man had has hand in both. White is no Webber... period!

Barnacle Bill

January 12th, 2007 05:47 PM

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President_Elect_Shang said:
As I pointed out before it was David Webber that took the head of StarFire while under the ownership of Task Force Games. It was Webber that turned the game around and saved it from becoming history. The battles and technology match the books and the games because the same man had has hand in both.

I don't know about that. White was Weber's successor as the Starfire guy at TFG (or at least writer of the Starfire column in TFG's house magazine "Nexus"), so I'm pretty sure he's quite familiar with the game mechanics as they stood back then. Meanwhile, I wouldn't call Weber's "Starfire III: Empires" the best Starfire product in the history of the franchise...

President_Elect_Shang

January 12th, 2007 06:29 PM

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Barnacle Bill said:
...so I'm pretty sure he's quite familiar with the game mechanics as they stood back then...

I never said he wasn't. I'm not sure what your point is with this. Editing Nexus is different than overhauling a fading game.

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Barnacle Bill said:
...I wouldn't call Weber's "Starfire III: Empires" the best Starfire product in the history of the franchise...

And I didn't; when and where did I say anything like that? Although it is far better than Galactic SF will ever be.

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