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boromeo January 13th, 2007 07:46 PM

About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
Hello all..

I am at war with another empire and i would like to make peace but how do i do that ?..nowhere in the treaties choices i can see how to do so , so i'd like to know how i can do that

Thanks for your answers.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Suicide Junkie January 13th, 2007 07:48 PM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
Well, peace is all in the eye of the beholder... "not shooting each other" treaties are generally what you want.

Given that you are hostile to each other, you might want to sign a ceasefire in neutral space, but still allow you to blow them out of the sky if they intrude into your space.

If things work out with that, you can extend the treaty later to cover trade, global ceasefire, and more.

boromeo January 13th, 2007 07:58 PM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
Hmm, could you please elaborate more ?, i am new to the game and also english is not my mother language . where is the cease fire option ? and why in neutral space ?, i have to say that all the ministers setting are computer controlled except for politics , infact what i'd like to know is teh step by step things to do .. and thanks for replying so fast ...:)

RCCCL January 13th, 2007 08:03 PM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
There is no Cease Fire Option, what SJ means is, try to create a treaty with your enemy, just a basic one at first, one where you only have some type of non agression.

Raapys January 13th, 2007 08:07 PM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
Go to Empires, press the empire you're at war with, press Send Message, select Propose Treaty from the list on the left, then use the Set Treaty Elements on the right. For a pure 'peace' treaty, just check the non-aggression field ( in all systems or in neutral space). Make a treaty name and then press ok and send the message.

boromeo January 13th, 2007 08:15 PM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
Thank you all for for your so quick answers..:)now i know what to do but i wonder why the cease fire or make peace option with empires at war aren't part of the game but that another story..anyway thanx to all..:)

Suicide Junkie January 13th, 2007 08:28 PM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
Ah, non-aggression is the term, yeah.

The question really is "what is peace"?
If you avoid each other despite having no treaty, that's somewhat peaceful. If you only shoot intruders, and coexist outside, that's a little more peaceful. If you allow them to fly anywhere you don't have mines, that is even more.


I suggest "only in neutral space", mainly because you are at war right now. Do you really want to let their warships fly through your homesystem?
Treaties can be broken after all, and you shouldn't trust them yet.

Tim_Ward January 13th, 2007 10:44 PM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
The thing about the "only in neutral" space is that while, yes, you can attack their ships that come into your system, *they* can also attack you in your systems...

Suicide Junkie January 13th, 2007 11:07 PM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
They can attack you in your system anyways.

The point of this is that you can shoot them down at the gates instead of letting them get into orbit of your homeworld before they declare war and glass it.

Meanwhile, you can play nice outside and even team up against a common enemy despite not trusting each other...

Tim_Ward January 13th, 2007 11:37 PM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
I can tell you are making these suggestions with PBW in mind...

Suicide Junkie January 14th, 2007 12:40 AM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
Well, AIs are not trustworthy either. They'll Eorg your planets if you don't protect your borders.

narf poit chez BOOM January 14th, 2007 01:21 AM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
I think a nessasary piece of information is that all treaties contain at least part of an implicit peace treaty.

Phoenix-D January 14th, 2007 01:53 AM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
Not in SEV they don't. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

narf poit chez BOOM January 14th, 2007 02:14 AM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
Hmm...Didn't know that.

The dangers of assumption!

President_Elect_Shang January 14th, 2007 02:17 AM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
Narf did you ***-u-me (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif) that there had to be? Never had an empty treaty offer from the AI yet? Or did that problem get fixed?

Suicide Junkie January 14th, 2007 02:28 AM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
You can always sign a treaty that prevents the use of biological weapons, but still have at each other like rabid wombats using regular guns.

President_Elect_Shang January 14th, 2007 02:48 AM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
You see I like that kind of thinking SJ. Bio weapons leave all those rotten bodies which makes the place really stink! So N-A-S-T-Y! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif However if you nuke 'em there's no stink, it clears out all them ugly buildings they put up. And best of all it leaves a nice glow! And I know we all enjoy the after glow when we are done with our [i]business[/b]. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Randallw January 14th, 2007 05:32 AM

Re: About makin peace with an empire at war !
 
Now aint this a small coincidence

http://www.comics.com/comics/getfuzzy/index.html

Jan 14 for posterity.


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