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seej January 14th, 2007 01:35 PM

the Gold Lion (running)
 
This game is now full.

I am starting a PBEM EA game for newish players. I myself have played/am playing 3 MP games. Turns will run about 1 per day. Map will be random, nations will be assigned randomly, too. The game will be 15 players.

Renaming will be allowed, graphs will be turned off. All other options standard. Game version 3.04

If you would like to sign up, send me a private message via this forum. In the message please include your email address so I can send you the files one we get going.

Players so far (with factions)
admiralzhao = Lanka
cooron = Oceania
dragonlord = Marveni
ferrosol = Pangaea
izzyz = Agartha
johnarryn = Ermor
llamabeast = Kailasa
micah = Atlantis
nix = T'ien Ch'i
ramiro = Arcoscephale
seej = R'lyeh
terrel = Abysia
valandil = Yomi

Gandalf Parker January 14th, 2007 03:36 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
I think that graphs turned off wont work unless you wait for the new patch before you create the game. See the progress page.
http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/dom3progress.html

johnarryn January 14th, 2007 03:44 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
I'm in seej. As you know, this will be my second game. Thanks for hosting, it is a bit of work =)

johnarryn January 14th, 2007 03:45 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Gandalf,
In the new PBEM i have running graphs are off and its working fine. It just says "no statistics available yet."
But seems to work fine in terms of not showing score graphs.

Ramiro January 14th, 2007 05:44 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
I would like join this game too !
with ermor if is posible !

Good luck !

Izzyz January 14th, 2007 10:04 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Please count me in, I've played in two online games. PM to follow.

Valandil January 14th, 2007 10:21 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Count me in! This will be my first game.
Niefelheim?
PM to follow.

Dragonlord January 15th, 2007 01:51 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Count me in, NB this will be my first MP game so I may need some help getting up and running :-)
Of the nations that are left, I'll take Ulm.

llamabeast January 15th, 2007 07:02 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Ooh, count me in please.

This'll actually be my 5th game, I hope that doesn't make me count as too experienced.

seej January 15th, 2007 12:05 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
OK to move things forward in terms of time, I am pronouncing the game closed to new players. We have 14. Please everyone get me your pretenders so we can get things rolling.

CJ

Cooron January 15th, 2007 12:07 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Phew =)

Close one.

Valandil January 16th, 2007 12:39 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
pretender sent, did you recieve?

Hellboy January 16th, 2007 01:48 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Got my turn file, but I think I need 2 files for the random map, correct?

I get an error msg, asking for "west_east_1.rgb", but according to the manual I will also need a .map file, as well...

- Terrel


EDIT:

oops, just a lag between the 2 emails - got the files now.

Ferrosol January 16th, 2007 08:22 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Ok my first turn submitted. have fun guys and good luck.

Oh and that horde of centaur/minotaur/dryads it was an accident when they invade your lands http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

seej January 16th, 2007 08:26 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Hi guys,
For all correspondance with me, you will find me easier to reach via my email address - I check it much more frequently than this forum.

CJ

Valandil January 16th, 2007 10:08 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
sorry, can I get the map file again?

llamabeast January 16th, 2007 10:13 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
You should probably e-mail him Valandil, since he just said he doesn't check this forum so often. I'll PM you his address in case you've lost it.

Valandil January 16th, 2007 10:23 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
I did email. thanks.

Dragonlord January 17th, 2007 04:03 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Ok I just submitted my 2nd turn. is my first dom3 MP game but seems to work fine.
What I really miss is a feature I got used to back when I played SEIV PBEM. The host would be a webserver (automated) and you would post your turn files there. As soon as all files were in the server would process the turn and auto email the new files to all players. This takes effort away from the human hoster, and more importantly for me, lets everyone see who has not yet submitted their turn. It is also a convenient way to find the email adress of all players in your game to start diplomatic exchanges with.

Is there any way or chance of having this set up for dom3?

llamabeast January 17th, 2007 06:05 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
That's the standard way that most Dom3 multiplayer games are run. The only trouble is that you need an always-on computer, so unless the host is one the lucky people who have one, sometimes PBEM is the only option.

Nix January 17th, 2007 09:00 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
So... anyone speak Japanese?

Dragonlord January 18th, 2007 05:34 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Sorry no japanese.. any dutch ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Grr I really wish I could see how many people (and which ones!) have not yet submitted their turn yet... since its turn 2 it takes me only 5-10 minutes to do a turn so we could have at least 2 per day at this stage ?

llamabeast January 18th, 2007 08:45 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Did the turn file for turn 3 get sent yet? I didn't receive it if so.

seej January 18th, 2007 10:14 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Very well I will update this forum once most of the turns are in, so as to out the stragglers.

Today's straggler is: Oceania

I sent him a reminder email yesterday.

llamabeast January 18th, 2007 10:51 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
I think it might be a good idea to just host every 24 hours, unless someone e-mails you to explain their turn'll be late. So if people are late they'll just stale - it'll keep the game moving much better.

Hellboy January 18th, 2007 11:43 AM

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Quote:

llamabeast said:
I think it might be a good idea to just host every 24 hours, unless someone e-mails you to explain their turn'll be late. So if people are late they'll just stale - it'll keep the game moving much better.

I agree with that.

Ferrosol January 18th, 2007 02:43 PM

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I endorse the above idea/suggestion

johnarryn January 18th, 2007 03:21 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
It's certainly not a bad idea, although we should be charitable... send out a reminder email at a predetermined hour (say 24 hours after host) then host if the person hasnt responded in another 12 hours or so. None of us like to have the game slowed down, but we should try to be understanding if there's a legitimate reason.

Hellboy January 18th, 2007 03:28 PM

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Quote:

johnarryn said:
It's certainly not a bad idea, although we should be charitable... send out a reminder email at a predetermined hour (say 24 hours after host) then host if the person hasnt responded in another 12 hours or so. None of us like to have the game slowed down, but we should try to be understanding if there's a legitimate reason.

Well its good to be nice, but hosting a game is already extra work, add to that nursemaiding 14 players, that would quickly become painful, I guess.

llamabeast January 18th, 2007 03:32 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
I think that it makes sense to possibly give a bit of leeway if a player sends an e-mail saying he's going to be late, and otherwise just host it, because people can almost always send e-mails in advance if they're not going to have a chance to take their turn.

Anyway, sorry, whatever you think best CJ.

johnarryn January 18th, 2007 03:34 PM

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Yes, it is somewhat annoying, Terrel. I'm currently hosting another large PBEM game that our host seej is in. And yes, it gets obnoxious when one person is holding up the game... what i've tried doing is waiting until almost everyone has their turns in (which is usually in about 16 hours) and then sending friendly reminder emails to the people who havent sent their turns in. Usually all it takes is a nudge... I'm just saying I don't think we have to be draconian about it and host without giving people a chance.

Hopefully anyone who loses interest or wants to quit will be mature enough to let the host know so it can be dealt with.

Valandil January 18th, 2007 03:57 PM

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Anyone understand my nihongo no E-tegami?

Hellboy January 18th, 2007 03:59 PM

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Quote:

johnarryn said:
Yes, it is somewhat annoying, Terrel. I'm currently hosting another large PBEM game that our host seej is in. And yes, it gets obnoxious when one person is holding up the game... what i've tried doing is waiting until almost everyone has their turns in (which is usually in about 16 hours) and then sending friendly reminder emails to the people who havent sent their turns in. Usually all it takes is a nudge... I'm just saying I don't think we have to be draconian about it and host without giving people a chance.

Hopefully anyone who loses interest or wants to quit will be mature enough to let the host know so it can be dealt with.

Well, that certainly is generous of you. If I were hosting I'd be inclined to be a bit more "draconian", but whatever works.

llamabeast January 18th, 2007 04:00 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Valandil, you'll have to check your in-game messages when the turn hosts. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Dragonlord January 18th, 2007 05:06 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Well has it not been 36 hours by now? I too would be more strict if I were hosting...

Hellboy January 18th, 2007 08:08 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
From CJ's email:

Quote:

seej said:
... I did want to propose a 28 hour deadline from when the turns are sent out. Would you all be amenable to that? This is to say, I run the turns "at my earliest convenience" after 28 hours from when I sent them out.

If that happens and someone didn't submit a turn, we would just run without them and it should just give them no orders for the turn right? We wouldnt make people AI unless they actually dropped.


I'm in favor of any kind of deadline policy. More specifically, I'm thinking that simply running the turns at the same time every evening might be easier than 28hrs, but I'm fine either way. Looking at a few of the games PashaDawg has hosted, he seems to have the sensible policy of going to hosting 3 times/week as the game progresses - I know that it does take quite a while for me to do a turn in the later game.

Now if someone sends a CJ an email asking for a postponement, being flexible in this case makes perfect sense - but without that email I say host, and let 'em go stale!

seej January 18th, 2007 09:03 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
I would be amenable for a 24 hour hour run deadline unless the player emails me with a specific request for more time. I will continue to send reminder emails to the laggers (the last two-three people with outstanding turns).

Definitely as the game progresses a 24 hours deadline can be adjusted for more time etc.

johnarryn January 18th, 2007 09:33 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
I think seej's idea is good. I'm fine with a 24 hour deadline, even later in the game.

Dragonlord January 19th, 2007 04:26 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
I am fine with that too. 24 hour deadline for the early game, more later if needed. I think we should then all know at what time exactly the deadline is. For example if 9 PM is a good time for Seej to process turns (e.g. after his work/school & dinner) then we can all bear that in mind. Seej can you give us a time, and make sure to tell us what timezone you are in ?

seej January 19th, 2007 10:13 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
I am in eastern standard time, and I would prefer something along the lines of midnight my time.

CJ

Hellboy January 19th, 2007 08:47 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Maybe this goes w/o saying, but it would also be cool if CJ could run turns early, if everyone has got their turns in (I think he was about to do that this morning, but i was the laggard this time around http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif). Maybe this weekend we could get through a few turns at an accelerated rate?

At least for the first 10-15 turns its nice to speed things up, if possible.

seej January 20th, 2007 03:26 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
I believe currently I am waiting on:

Arcoscephale (I have asked him to resend his turn zipped)

Dragonlord January 20th, 2007 06:23 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Agreed with Terrel. I received the last turn last night (CET) and responded at once just before going to bed. Its now 10.20 AM here and I was already hoping on a next turn :-)
Game wise, I think I had a pretty rough start, so I am anxious to see in 10 turns or so if I even stand a chance. My capitol is surrounded by 2 or 3 swamps, I missed getting mercenaries for a the first turns to take a first province, and the game staled (ignored my orders) on a fairly crucial early turn due to an incorrect serial key at the time...
And on top of that I am not familiar with my nation nor very much impressed by it so far, but will soldier on. At least I have some good mages :-)

In terms of diplomacy I look forward to some exchanges that are a bit more sophisticated than what the in-game messaging allows. What is normal in Dom3 MP games? Is it ok to publish a list here of all the nations and their email addresses, for some behind the scenes politicking ?

johnarryn January 20th, 2007 11:36 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
I'm ok with my email being given out since its already posted elsewhere on the boards, but this may not be the case for everyone.

PM are always an option, as are in the in-game messages if you want to add an element of "realism" to the game, i.e. diplomacy may not alway reflect the situation at the front.

Dragonlord January 20th, 2007 03:18 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Well, everyone's email adress does not have to be totally public: The host could just send round a list to us of nations, forum nicks, and email adresses. As for realism, I tend to roleplay my diplo exchanges unless I specifically state that my remarks will be out of character.

johnarryn January 20th, 2007 03:21 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
I meant that the lag between diplomatic exchanges is somewhat realistic for a "medieval-esque" game. In the sense that diplomats have to go back and forth while fighting may be occurring; thus what is being discussed may not reflect the reality of the front.

seej January 20th, 2007 05:41 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
new turn has been posted (turn 5) let me know if you dont receive it.

Hellboy January 20th, 2007 10:51 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Quote:

Dragonlord said:
Game wise, I think I had a pretty rough start, so I am anxious to see in 10 turns or so if I even stand a chance. My capitol is surrounded by 2 or 3 swamps, I missed getting mercenaries for a the first turns to take a first province, and the game staled (ignored my orders) on a fairly crucial early turn due to an incorrect serial key at the time...
And on top of that I am not familiar with my nation nor very much impressed by it so far, but will soldier on. At least I have some good mages :-)


Sorry to hear about the tough start - good luck toughing it out. To look for a silver lining, it may not be a disadvantage to have missed the mercs. I think there is a price level where players can be overpaying, and if your opponents have done this, you may have the advantage for not having got the mercs. I often bid on mercs, but I always prepare for the case where I don't get them, and I try to not get carried away on how much I bid.



Quote:

In terms of diplomacy I look forward to some exchanges that are a bit more sophisticated than what the in-game messaging allows. What is normal in Dom3 MP games? Is it ok to publish a list here of all the nations and their email addresses, for some behind the scenes politicking ?

I'll broadcast a message in game, including my email address. I certainly enjoy the diplomatic aspects of this game, and I also dislike the interface for in-game messaging. So, email is good for me, but I never post my email address on a public forum. As johnarryn points out, PMs also work, and whenever I don't have a players email, I start out w/ PM and usually move to email thereafter.

Dragonlord January 21st, 2007 06:48 AM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Ok Terrel, thanks for the reply and the words of encouragement. Looks like I'll need it...I just saw turn 5 and one of you managed to already show up next to my capitol with a combat pretender accompanied by 70 troops...lucky guess I think of that player, to put all eggs in one basket, strike out in a random direction and hope to catch someone before defenses are up. So if things dont go well, in a turn or 2 my fate may be sealed...

johnarryn January 22nd, 2007 01:45 PM

Re: Random set up, PBEM game for new players
 
Well, even with a SC god your PD and troops you have on hand should be able to put up a fight, particularly in your dominion... did you see the other player coming? (im assuming its Arco).

That's not meant to be condescending, just encouraging =) I think you have a fighting chance.


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