Soviet OBB T-62 designations
 

In the Russian OBB units number 18, 19 and 20 use a un-common designation scheme.

Unit 18 is called the 'T-62M', the more common name is the T-62A, unit 19, is called 'T-62 M1975' the more common name is T-62M. Unit 20 is called 'T-62 M1984'. which is just another variant of the T-62M with newer model ammunition

this isn't a major issue, but it just simplifies T-62 designations and makes them agree with a majority of sources.

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You mean there really are a "majority of sources" that agree on the Soviet T-whatever tank series numbering ?

Do tell where. Sorting out Russian model numbers is about as much fun as sorting out what a "panzergrenadier" company should look like.

And yes, there are non standard designations in the game and they are there to make things easier for people so is we put two "T-62M" in the game you know someones going to complain one costs more than the other and they cannot figure out why becasue they have the same name so way back when the OOB designers decided to add things like 'T-62 M1984' so it's a bit more clear this is a different model

I'll tell you want. You get everyone to agree on what all the T54 and T55 and T62 and T64 and T72 and T80 and T90 designantions are supposed to be so they "agree with a majority of sources" and apply them to the units we have in the game and when everyone is happy I will be glad to change them to whatvever they "should" be. In the meantime I will cut and paste this into my to-do list and look at it later. I'm sure there will be more posts on this matter

Don

Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
 

I can understand how having 2 T-62Ms can be confusing but this is done with the T-55s. Ex. In the East German OBB there are 3 different T-55As.

But the current T-62M (unit 18) if it were called a T-62A, the more common designation. Will make it more clear, so people don't confuse it with the true T-62M which adds a laser rangefinder. Instead of the T-62A which adds a 12.7-mm DShK antiaircraft maching gun.

The other point is that currently the T-62 uses a completely different designation scheme then then the T-54/55/64/72.

Anyone with more information on T-62 variants?

Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
 

Soviet tank designations are a terrible mess, esp. when locals come into play as well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Just to illustrate this, Czechoslovakian T-72's:
T-72 Obiekt 172M-E (first batch delivered from Soviet union) - really called T-72. So far so good.
T-72M Obiekt 172M-E2 (T-72's manufactured here, already have T-72A/M front hull, laser RF, but lack skirts and smoke greandes - mostly) - really called T-72 by our army
T-72M Obiekt 172M-E4 (later batch with 44rds ammo storage, all have skirts and smoke grenades) - called T-72M in our army
T-72M1 Obiekt 172M-E5(classic T-72M1, nothing to see here, move along) - called T-72M1 AS WELL AS T-72M by our army
T-72M4 (T-72M1 upgrade) - called T-72M4, no problem here, except army of course (see above) often stating it is modernisation of T-72M

Guess with T-62's and all other T's it's similar http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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It is all a mess.

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Exactly. I'm generally happy with "close enough" becasue there will always be someone with different information. If it was easy, it wouldn't have been a point for discussion for as long as we've been working on the game. I put your info about the T-62 on the list

Don

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Okay, lets see, the following is from Stephen J Zaloga's T-64 and T-80 books with Concord:

T-64R - This is the pre-series production type with the D-68 115mm gun, Ammunition was 40 rounds, of which 30 were in the Korzina autoloader, Total production was about 600 tanks.

T-64 - This was the initial production version with the 125mm D-81T gun. This version had the ZIP tool stowage bin on the right front side and no rear turret stowage bin. Most of these were later modernized as T-64A (rebuild).

T-64A - The T-64A was the first major production series of the T-64 family, It incorporated a number of changes from the initial T-64R and T-64. The ZIP tool stowage box on the right front fender was replaced by an additional fuel cell. A substitute ZIP tool stowage box was added behind the turret, The T-64 had a variety of other internal improvements added. Total production was over 1400.

T-64A (rebuilt) - The T-64A(rebuilt) is a rebuilt T-64 or T-64A, incorporating the new improvements found on later T-64 models. This includes substitution of a rubber side skirt for the gill armor, addition of glacis plate hull armor applique, stowage improvements and other small changes.

T-64B - The T-64B was a redesign of the T-64 to incorporate a new generation of hull and turret armor which was not as bulky as the 1st generation Combination K armor on the T-64A, while offering the same or better protection. The T-64B also introduced the new 9M112 Kobra radio-command guided anti-tank missile (AT-8 Songster), This missile requires a radio-command antenna box, which is fitted immediately forward of the commander's right turret station, A new gunner's sight was fitted which included a laser rangefinder, making the right hand portion of the coincidence rangefinder unnecessary. The T-64B carries 36 rounds of conventional ammunition and 6 Kobra missiles, compared to 37 rounds of 125mm ammunition on the T-64A. This version was called SMT M1980/2 by NATO. When fitted with smoke mortars, it was dubbed SMT M1981/1.

T-64B1 - The T-64B1 is an upgrade to the T-64B, although details of specific improvements are lacking. It may distinguish between new-build T-64Bs, and tanks rebuilt to T-64B standard on the basis of older T-64As during periodic rebuilding, The T-64B1 is on uncommon type with only about 400 built compared to over 1200 T-64B,

T-64BV/T-64B1V - The -V designator identifies tanks retrofitted with explosive reactive armor (ERA), This type of armor was developed under the direction of V.N.Bryzgov at the Nil Research Institute of the Main Armor Directorate at Kubinka in the Moscow suburbs.

T-64 Command Tanks - There are three command tank versions of the T-64 series. These types ore identified by a "K" suffix after the usual designation. The command types have an additional command radio compared to the usual radio fit, and usually have a land navigation device, less ammunition and an additional external radio antenna storage tube. The three main command types of the T-64 family are the T-64AK, T-64B1K and T-64BV1K, The T-64AK was not fitted with the usual 12.7mm NSVT machine gun over the commander's stotion, Additional types on other variants may also hove existed in the past, but hove been consolidated into these types by 1990.

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T-80 - This is the basic production version of the tank, It is sometimes nicknamed the "Kobra", due to its use of the 9M112 Kobra radio-command guided missile, This is a relatively uncommon type, and only a few hundred were built.

T-80B - Sometimes nicknamed Beryoza (birch Tree), this is the first major redesign of the T-80 family with a modified turret. The turret incorporates a new generation of Composite K ceramic armor which offers better protection against APFSDS kinetic energy penetrators. The turret has an equivalent protective level of 500mm steel compare to 410mm in the earlier models and the T-64. This is the most common variant of the T-80, with over 3,500 in service with Soviet tank units west of the Urals as of 1990. The T-80BK is the command tank variant.

T-80BV - The T-80BV is the T-80B fitted with 1st generation explosive reactive armor. The T-80BVK is the command tank version, There is also a late production type with a new turret similar to the SMT Ml989, but fitted with the turbine engine and 1 st generation ERA. This is probably the T-80U.

T-80D - Soviet documents refer to a T-80D. Nothing definite is known of this variant though it may refer either to an initial diesel powered version of the T-80, or a T-80 equivalent of the T-55AD Drozh anti-missile air defense vehicle.

T-80U/T-80UD - This is the latest version of the T-80 family, sometimes called the SMT M1989. This version has two significant changes from the earlier T-80 family, including a new turret with on improved frontal armor package with 2nd generation reactive armor. This variant is equipped with the 9K120 Svir laser guided antitank missile in place of the older Kobra. The standard version is fitted with the 6TD diesel engine, a 6-cylinder derivative of the 5TDF engine found in the T-64 family, There have been reports that a version of this tank exists with the older gas-turbine engine, but equipped with the modified turret and 2nd generation reactive armor. In the photos here, this version is referred to as the T-80UD.

Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
 

Nice info - but not on-topic for the thread's subject. T62. Tee Sixty Two.

Cheers
Andy

Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
 

Agreed this is nice info and strays off the topic a bit with the T-80 info but one thing a lot of lists like this we have seen lack is introduction dates for the new models and upgrades. It's great to get the details ( and it is http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif ) but much of the information we see lacks the critical in ( and out of ) service dates which is critcal information

What I would like to see is a list like that for all models ( T-54 all the way to t-90) with the service dates included.

If anyone has real hard data on all the models WITH the in service ( and out of service dates if possible ) which can be matched to the detailed information on what changed in the new model/upgrade we would all go a long way to putting this issue to bed finally.

Don

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Nice info - but not on-topic for the thread's subject. T62. Tee Sixty Two.

Well, I didn't want to make another thread, and sort of wanted to keep the information in the same thread as the other Soviet tank stuff, so that it's easier to find for all of us http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
 

The thing is, it's easy to find this now. Two months from now it's buried and forgotten when threads are mixed

Don

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Has anyone thought to try and compile these in a text file format of some sort? Would that be useful? I've compiled a number of word tables like this, so if it would be useful to compile the information with notes on sources I can offer to do that and take the load off other people with more pressing projects.

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T-62 (1961) - Obj.166
Base model. 2A20 gun with two plane "Meteor" stabiliser and +16/-6 deg elevation/depretion, 2245mm turret ring. TKN-3 TC day/night sight, TSh2B-41 gunner day sight with 3.5/7x magnification, TPN1-41-11 night sight. 40 rounds ammo load. PKT coax with 2500 rounds. V-55V engine with 580hp. 102mm@60deg glacis, 242mm max frontal turret.
Since 1969. DShKM AAMG was installed.
In 1975 KTD-1 LRF was installed.
None of those versions got any separate designation.*

T-62A (1962). Obj.164
This is NOT a designation aplied to a AAMG equiped T-62 but totaly diferent vehicle, armed with 100mm D-54TS gun, with "Kometa" two plane stabiliser.

T-62K (1964) - Obj.166K
Aditional R-112 radio, AB-1 APU. 36 x 115mm rounds, 1750 rounds for a coax PKT.

T-62K (1964) - Obj.166KN
+ TNA-2 navigation aids

T-62D (1983) - Obj.166D
1030M "Drozd" APS installed.

T-62D-1 (1983) - Obj.166D-1
With V-46-5M engine.

T-62M (1983) Obj.166M
Deep modernisation of the T-62.
Aditional armor on glacis and turret, aditional anti-mine protection for driver, 10mm reinforced rubber side skirts, 10mm anti-neutron-liner. Tracks from T-72, two aditional amortisers on 1st roadwheels. KTD-2 LRF, TShSM-41U gunner's sight, "Meteor M1" stabiliser, BV-62 balistic computer, 9K116-1 "Sheksna" guided missile unit. Gun thermal sleave, R-173 radio instead of R-123M and 620hp V-55U engine. 42 rounds of 115 ammo/missiles.

T-62M-1 - Obj.166M-1
With V-46-5M engine.

T-62M1 - Obj.166M1
No missile guidance.

T-62M1-1 - Obj.166M1-1
No missile guidance, V-46-5M engine.

T-62M1-2 - Obj.166M1-2
No missile guidance and no aditional armor.

T-62M1-2-1 - Obj.166M1-2-1
No missile guidance, no aditional armor, V-46-5M engine.

T-62MD (1983) Obj.166MD
T-62M version with "Drozd" APS instead of aditional turret armor.

T-62MD-1 - Obj.166MD-1
With V-46-5M engine

T-62MK - Obj.166MK
Command version, no missile guidance, TNA-2 navigation aids, aditional R-112 radio, AB-1 APU. Less main gun and coax ammo.

T-62MK-1 - Obj.166MK-1
With V-46-5M engine.

T-62MV (1985) - Obj.166MV
K-1 era instead of aditional armor.

T-62MV-1 - Obj.166MV-1
With V-46-5M engine

T-62M1V - Obj.166M1V
No missile guidance

T-62M1V-1 - Obj.166M1V-1
No missile guidance, V-46-5M engine.

Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
 

This is why it seems particularly the T-62 variant designations are a mess. This one says that the 12.7AAMG installed models are not a seperate designation (T-62A)

I've never heard of the T-62A model in your post. a T-62 with a 100mm D-54T gun?

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The list itself is impressive but contains no source reference.

Don

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from FAS

T-62A: Besides the standard 7.62-mm PKT coaxial machine gun with a range of 1,000 meters, the T-62A version features a 12.7-mm DShK antiaircraft machine gun with a range of 1,500 meters against ground targets and a slant range of 1,000 meters against aircraft. The T-62A also has a stabilized main gun, which enables the gunner to track and fire on the move with significantly improved accuracy.

T-62K: Command tank models also have a land navigation system which includes a gyroscopic compass and a calculator giving continuous enroute readout of the tank's location (in relation to its point of origin) and its distance from and azimuth to a predetermined objective.

T-62M adds protection, FCS and ATGM capability.

T-62 variants with a V-46 T-72-type engine add -1 to their designation.

T-62M1: Variant with Volna FCS but no missile launch capability.

T-62D: Variant with the Drozd APS vs ERA.

T-62MK: Command variant.

T-62MV: Version with ERA in place of the bra armor. The ERA includes Kontakt ERA and Kontakt-5 2nd-Generation ERA.

From wikipedia

T-62 - early production version, had a 14.5 mm KPVT machine gun in coaxial mount instead of the more common SGMT 7.62 mm.

T-62A - Added 12.7 mm anti-aircraft machine gun (which is often removed in the field) and changed coaxial machine gun to PKMT 7.62 mm. Also added was a stabalized main gun which let the gunner fire while moving with significantly improved accuracy. Though still when firing ATGMs from the gun it would need to make a quick stop. All T-62s in Soviet service were converted to these specifications before 1970.

T-62K - Command tank with additional communications gear, recognizable by multiple radio antennas instead of just one.

T-62M - added laser range-finder, reactive armour.

T-62D - added 9K118 Sheksna laser-guided antitank missile system (AT-12 Swinger), which is fired through the gun tube.

T-62MV - T-62D produced for export, most of which were given to North Korea and Syria as military aid.

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From militaryfactory.com

T-62 - Base production vehicle
T-62K - Commander's Vehicle
T-62D - Additional armor and specialized anti-tank system.
T-62D-1 - Updated T-62D variant with newer powerplant.
T-62M - Modifications including anti-tank defense system and added passive armor.
T-62M-1
T-62M1 - Updated engine; added passive armor
T-62M1-1 - Sans passive armor and anti-armor defense system.
T-62M1-2
T-62M1-2-1
T-62MV - Features explosive reactive armor

from armscontrol.ru

T-62 This is the basic T-62 model, which essentially was a stretched T-55 chassis, with a new suspension, and a new turret equipped with the U-5T (2A20) Rapira 115-mm smoothbore gun. The gun has the new Meteor two-axis stabilization system.

T-62K This is the command tank variant of the T-62, and like earlier types, has one additional R-122 radio, a TNA-2 navigation system, a 4-meter antenna, but less ammunition. The corresponding command tank for the T-62M is the T-62MK.

T-62M (Also called T-62A) This tank includes the addition of a 12.7-mm antiaircraft DShK machine-gun on the loader's hatch. This modification included modification of the turret right side.

T-62M Model 1975 This is the T-62M with the addition of the KTD-1 laser rangefinder over the main gun mantlet.

T-62E The war in Afghanistan forced the Soviets to up-armor their tanks to provide better protection from infantry antitank weapons, such as the RPG-7. This upgrade led to the BDD appliqu? armor package. This package consists of a panel of armor on the glacis plate, two panels of "horse-shoe" armor around the front of the turret, and an optional package of belly armor for anti-mine protection. The total package adds 3.9 tons to the weight of the vehicle.

T-62M1 This further modification of the T-62A includes much of the modifications added to the T-55 to make the T-55AM2PB. These improvements include the Volna fire control system with the BV-62 computer, Meteor M1 gun stabilization package, TShSM-41U sight, KDT-2 laser rangefinder and 1K13 guidance sight package. This tank is equipped with the AT-12 Sheksna laser-guided antitank guided missile, which operates in much the same way as the AT-10 STABBER ATGM. This tank also includes the uprated V-55U engine, and the R-173 radio system. This vehicle is also usually fitted with the BDD appliqu? armor package.

T-62MV This is the T-62M fitted with the ERA package found on the T-55MV.

This seems to fit most closely with SPMBT. Although not completly. Well, then it seems that SPMBTs T-62 designations are modeled on Russian sources and not the messy contradictory western variations. I'm impressed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Sorry got it from Jane's Armour and Artillery 2005-2006 ISBN 978-0-7106-2686-8 by Christopher J. Foss.

Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
 

Lot's and Lot's of info

I noticed that while the info from Janes claims an "A" model with the 100mm gun ( and from other bit's I've read this would be a development model and not in any way a production model ) the info does not give an "A" designation to any other model. FAS makes the "A" the one with the 12.7-mm DShK antiaircraft machine as does wikipedia (which, until they get away from allowing just anyone to edit is aways a questionable source until confirmed separately )and militaryfactory.com and armscontrol.ru make no mention of an "A" model at all.

Which is why these things tend to get confusing..

Don

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from armscontrol.ru

I agree, there doesn't seem to be any agreement.

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"Smersh's T-62 crusade"

I've been doing alot of research into this, I've looked at a few of books from the 80s, from Jane's and other authors. The conclusion I've come to is that they knew nothing.

The true designations seem to be a mix of FAS and modern Janes. The bottom-line is that the current SPMBT designation system is out of date.

edit:I've made some changes to my own OBB: What is currently called T-62M (unit 18), I've changed to T-62 M1969, this is the so called T-62A with the 12.7mm AAmg. Unit 19, I've changed to T-62 M1975, this adds the laser range-finder. It seems T-62s produced after those years started adding those parts. In 1969 when the AAmg was added this was mistaken as a seperate variant (sometimes called a T-62A or even less common T-62M) since older model T-62s remained in service.

Unit 21, currently T-62M1 I've changed to T-62M and coorespondingly unit 22 currently T-62M1 BDD to T-62M BDD. The T-62M1 was the variant with no missles, since the MBT version has missiles it should not be called T-62M1.

I've made no other changes besided unit name, everything else remains identical. This may seem like a minor change, but, for me, it really cleared up alot of confusion, and makes unit names more accurate.


It would be very nice if someone would design a T-62M BDD icon, to represent the extra add on applique armor. currently it looks like the standard T-62 with a different camo. upgraded (AM1, AM2) T-55 models get a seperate looking icon.

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IDK if you've written down the wrong unit number here but the OOB's I have ( ......the OOB's that were issued with V3 ) already has unit 19 named "T-62 M1975" and it has laser range finders.

??

Don

Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
 

no, your right.

I have been playing around with my OBB the past week. I must have had a different unit name, then I changed it back to it orginal.

edit: I've been looking at Russian sources, they repeat exactly what Djiuce posted on the first page. It does say the AAMG began being installed on some tanks starting in 1969. Currently unit 18 "T-62M" with the aamg, is available starting in 1971. Thats probably when it was seen publically or NATO identified it.

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OK, I'll fix up an Icon with BDD for the next release

Don

Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
 

Just to sum everything up, after more than a week of looking into T-62 designations, and many posts with different info, I'm going to leave out "K" command tanks and protoypes since they are not represented in the game:

T-62:(1961-1962*) baseline T-62. In 1969 some T-62s began produced with 12.7mm AAmg ,DSHKM. In 1975, which is the same year serial production ended, T-62s began being retrofitted with a laser range finder, KTD-1.

*depending on source, Russian sources say 1961.

currently in the OBB the T-62 (unit 17) is introduced in 1962, the model with the AAmg is called a T-62M (unit 18) and is available starting in 1971. The variant with the laser range finder is called T-62 M1975 (unit 19), no problems here.

T-62D:(1983) T-62 with "Drozd/Arena" system. Mostly used in Naval tank units.

Currently in the OBB the T-62D is only available in CS-MBT formations. But Naval MBT formations have the T-55D, missing the T-62D.

T-62M:(1983) major modernization upgrade, includes KTD-2(or 1)laser range finder, ATGM "Sheksna" missles, and new ballastic computer. Also includes Optional brow armor and side skirts. Variant with the V-46-5M engine is called T-62M-1*. Variant without ATGM launcher is called T-62M1. Variant with "Drozd/Arena" system is called T-62MD.Variant with ERA armour (instead of brow) is called T-62MV(1985).

*all T-62 with the V-46-5M engine add "-1" to designation examples: T-62M-1, T-62MV-1, T-62M1-1.

currently in the OBB, the unit with T-62M designation is unit 18 which is the model with the AAmg. The true T-62M is given the designation T-62M1/BDD (unit 21/22). This is incorrect since the unit does have an ATGM launcher. As far as I know, unit 23 is also called T-62M1V, but also has missiles.

T-64 M1984?(1984) according to one source, this is a T-62 fitted with brow armor, used during the afganistan war. This variant is in the game (unit 20), but is suprisingly it's given snow camo. maybe a note should be made on the unit, identifying it as a special variant used in Afganistan, and not part of the regular T-62 variants.

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T-55AD (unit 72 and 779) and T-62D (unit 76) models in the current OBB have only one "drozd" shot. They actually carry 8 shots, 4 on each side.

http://armoured.vif2.ru/T-55ad_e_1.jpg

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Did you happen to note that in the game there are only two choices for number of "Arena" or "drozd" shots ? You get 1 or 2.

Does your source tell you how many of those "drozd" are fired at a time to counteract a threat ?

FWIW there are other 55AD's in the game with 2 and I'll increase the Russian ones to 2 as well as the T-62D

Don

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Sources seem to say, fires "a rocket". but it doesn't matter if it fires 2 or 4 rockets, since like you said there are only two options:1 or 2

Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
 

We are off topic on a T-62 thread but for FWIW I'm glad you provided that photo and I dug into this a bit deeper as the T-55AD appears to be an "A" model with the added "D" ("drozd") There is no extra added side HEAT armour in any of the photos I've seen. It's a plain old "A" with the anti missile defenses added and the 55AD's we have in the game have all have HEAT side hull and turret armour which I guess I'll need to remove now ??? The t-62D has no extra HEAT armour and I don't see anything indicating the 55AD did either.

Don

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I hate quoting Wikipeadia becasue anyone can edit it but...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-55

T-55AD/T-55AMD/T-55AD1/T-55AMD1 - "D" refers to tanks with Drozd ('thrush') APS. Soviet Naval Infantry saved money by installing Drozd on a small number of tanks instead of opting for appliqué armour, or acquiring newer T-72s. About 250 were kept in stores for secrecy, but later switched to simpler reactive armour.

Don

Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
 

your right, I didn't notice that either.

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I agree with the 'D' standing for the Drozd anti-tank missile defence system.

Did you know that the T-62D apparently is not equiped with the 12.7 mm DShKM anti-aircraft machine gun mount? Which makes it unique from the T-62M, T-62M1, T-62M1-2, and the T-62MV. So, perhaps, the 'M' in T-62 means 12.7mm AA. It seems to put a new twist to this topic. Terrible, really. Because from the same source it states that the Model 1972 was equiped with the AA, so this may be the beginning of the 'M' series. Which the game OOB covers excellently.

How's this: T-62s with the V-46-5M diesel engine (developing 690hp) are designated T-62M-1, T-62M1-2-1, T-62MV-1 and T-62D-1. See, the '-1' means that it is the V-46-5M diesel engine, not the Model V-55 V-12 water-cooled engine. Man, you would think that everyone knows this already.

But...what does it really mean game wise?

This might help:

T-62M / T-62M1 / T-62M1-2 / T-62MV / T-62D
Sheksna-
ATGM: Yes / No / No / Yes / No
Volna FC*: Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / No
12.7mmAA: Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / No
Reactive
Armor: No / No / No / Yes / No
Smoke
Launcher: Yes / Yes / Yes / Yes / No
Auxiliary
Armor
Hull: Yes / Yes / No / No / Yes
Auxiliary
Armor
Turret: Yes / Yes / Yes / No / Yes

I need to use Excel or something http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I am not too sure on the release dates, sadly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif But, really, overall, most of this info already is in the OOB.





*(The Volna fire-control system includes the KDT-2 laser range-finder mounted over the 115 mm main armament, which has a maximum range of 4,000 m, TShSM-41U sight, Meteor M1 stabiliser and the BV62 ballistic computer.)

Jane's Interactive Armour and Artillery

Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
 

I've already posted a very conclusive list of T-62 designations on the previous page, with adoption dates.

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Yes, it is hard to miss, my warrior friend. I was hoping that you would be pleased with my post...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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I didn't realize you were supplamenting my post, it looked like you didn't see it.

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I think this maybe it