Wings 3d x-file exporter acting funny
 

Has anyone else suddenly had the Wings 3d X-file exporter stop working on them? For me, it's acting like everything is fine, but when I try to view the ships with the shipset viewer, there's nothing there. I get the firing points, engine glows, etc, as if there is a ship there, but the model doesn't display. I don't think I'm doing anything different, it just isn't working anymore.

The funny thing is, I've reinstalled the exporter and its still not giving me viewable x files.

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Attach the xfile, could be something simple.

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I paid for a registered copy of Milkshape, it worked fine until today. Now my registration has expired. WTF! I have an email into them and am awaiting their response. If they don't correct the problem, I will be very angry.

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Here is the file, I've renamed it because the forum wont let me attach x files. I'm putting off further edits to the model until I can get a look at it in-game.

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ZIP the x file then attach it. Be sure to include any textures too.

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Ok, try this...

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It has 248 vertices and no faces at all. If you haven't changed your software (upgraded?) and it was working before, double check your settings because it is not exporting all the information.

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What version of wings are you using? Can I see the .wings file so I can try reproducing the error? It seems strange that your model would have vertices but no faces, and I'm sure you could tell if you opened it up in wings - it would be invisible there, too!

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I'm using the only version of Wings that will even recognize the exporter, 0.98.36

The model looks fine in wings3d... In fact, when I export it to 3ds to paint it in deep paint, it's fine too. The only thing that doesn't work is exporting it in x format. I haven't modified any of the exporter settings. Do I need to?

I've attached the wings file.

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Just a thought... have you tried fiddling with the scale factor (and maybe the model radius) in your shipset data files? I think you have to set the scale factor pretty big or small (either something like 400 or 0.0025) for it to scale properly - Wings models are scaled to small numbers like 3 or 5 units while SE5 models are expected to be hundreds of units across, if I recall correctly... If I had a working .X viewer I'd take a look at it but the current version of the DirectX SDK only works with Windows Vista or something so I'll have to revert to an old version in order to view the model http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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I pulled the x file up in Deep Explorer and it says that there are no faces.

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I could try messing with the scale, but when I looked at it in the shipset viewer I zoomed in all the way and there was still nothing there.

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Hmm, no faces... That's really odd! I'll have to install the October 2006 DirectX SDK so I can view the model... Blender gives an error when trying to import it but I don't know if that's a problem with the model or with Blender... but if there are no faces then something is definitely wrong! I thought I checked the x file to see if the faces were defined, and it looks like they are, so I wonder what could be going on...
Just on a lark, try setting the triangulate option when you export to .X - I noticed you had all quads in your model, and perhaps applications require .X files to be triangulated (I've heard they have to be), even though the format technically supports faces with any number of sides (or at least it's SUPPOSED to, from what I read on it when I wrote the exporter...)

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Ok, tried that and still no luck. I can't imagine it could be a problem with the model. It exports to 3ds just fine, and I tried it with a completely different model and it doesn't show up either. I've tried triangulation, and quadrangulation but neither seems to have any effect.

I'm attaching the triangulated one.

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OK, sorry for giving you the runaround - I've just been really busy with schoolwork lately, and I've just been suggesting things you can try because I haven't had time to look at the .x file very much. I guess the exporter is just screwing up somehow, and I can see where the faces are defined as groups of vertices (it's the section where you have a bunch of numbers in groups of 3 all in order)... I wonder if the faces are being exported inside-out for some reason? I know this exporter used to work, with Wings version 0.98.35... I wonder if something in Wings changed in version 0.98.36 that broke it? You should be able to download old versions of Wings from the sourceforge site; maybe try exporting it from 0.98.35? (You will have to copy the wpc_x.beam file over from 0.98.36 though, since it wasn't included in that version - it should be in the wings/plugins/import_export folder...)
Again, sorry this isn't working for you... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

edit: Aha, I think I found it... your model does not have any material assigned to it! Try assigning one of your images that you have in the .wings file as a texture (or just convert vertex colors to materials), and then export... Looking at the wings forums I found one of my old posts in which I explained that objects without a material assigned won't export properly, and I seem to have forgotten about it! (Well, I am at school and I don't have wings installed here so maybe your model DOES have a material and I just couldn't tell because it was all gray like the default vertex color, but if it doesn't, give it a shot! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)

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All right... I opened up your xfile in the October 2006 DirectX mesh-viewer, and it looks perfectly fine... I wonder why SE5 won't recognize it? :?
Did you recently patch SE5? Perhaps it was the patch that killed it - maybe something in the game changed about how it reads xfiles...:?

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That's really odd, then. 'Cause I can't get it to load right in DE and I've never had any problems with it before.

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Hmm... I figured Wings 3d would automatically assign the default material to the model after creating the texture in the UV mapper. When I load it in Deep Paint, it seems to have a material attached, but maybe DP's just assigning it a default material when it loads.

I have the Steam version of SE5, so it updates automatically.

I will have to try deliberately assigning a material to it and see if that makes a difference. Don't have time now but I will post again when I do.

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Been sidetracked a lot lately, but hopefully I'll get some time to deal with this soon. Starscape needs to get made, heh...