Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

Hello,

I am wondering if the 6AP damage from F9 stacks with 2AN from D9 ?

If this is the case I can see some decent potential for masses of "cheap" blessed troops with 2 attacks due to +4 attack, +6AP damage +2AN damage with a +350% chance for afflictions.

This might give E9/N9 giants some serious problems.

CharonJr

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

AFAICT, yes, it does stack.

More importantly (when dealing with giants), the increased affliction chance and the bonus damage appears to be multiplicative, so death/fire blessed weapons cause a *lot* of afflictions.

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

Thank you for your help, I will give it a shot.

E9/N9 EA Niefel vs. F9/D9 Mictlan might get very interesting http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

CharonJr

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

How does the 6AP damage combine with the regular damage a weapon does.

For example say you end up with an attack of 20 (15 strengh + 5 weapon) + flaming weapons vs a unit with 25 protection. What is the equation for the dice rolls?

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

I still think you'd be better off with water 9 / fire 9 / death 4 / blood 4. Try an imprisoned smoking mirror with a dominion like the one in that movie.... Apocalypto. Pestilence, things are on fire, etc.

With the defense and speed your jaguar warriors might actually survive http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

The 6ap damage from f9 dosnt stack with the regular attack(in maltrease's example, if that attack hit, there would be one regular hit at 20 damage and one flaming hit at 6ap damage

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

The main thing about Death bless is that it's good to use against SCs with high Protection but average/above average Defense.

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

Oh, in that sense. Yeah, the fire weapons and death weapons are like secondary-effect-always, and they make the original weapon magical.

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

Pretty sure they are not secondary-effect-always. The weapon has to hit in order to get the effect.

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

Hmm, does the affliction "proc" even if the enemy takes no damage ? I thought that damage needs to be caused in order for afflictions to be caused.

Due to this the main point about D9 was the +2AN for me. And either making "sure" that the +6AP will hit or - if the +6AP counts as a different attack - that there is another chance for afflictions from the same attack (maybe even up to 3 if each attack is resolved seperatly).

Except vs. giants I would have been fairly comfortable with F9/W9, but vs. them I was looking for a little more bang for the buck http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

CharonJr

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

Afflictions are caused by damage, so 0 damage will not cause random afflictions, even with 350% chance of afflictions. The more damage a single attack does the higher the chance of causing an affliction. This is also affected by the max hitpoints of the creature being damaged, the more HP the lower the chance of afflictions.

I'm pretty sure some attacks, like Koppo, will cause their affliction on hit even if there is no damage.

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

Hmm, Smoking Mirror or Lich with F9/D9/B4 would be an option, too...

Dom9, but very bad scales (likely drain-2 if I want any luck/growth at all).

Since the map is Aran with 2 players and 3 AIs the game can take quite a while I think, due to this the scales for 2x9 and 2x4 blesses might be a bit high, too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Would most likely take the Lich there due to being immortal, or does the Mirror have an advantage that is hidden in the text ?

Thank you for the input.

CharonJr

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

On a side note, I believe the affliction bless stacks with sacred mages too. So you can cast something like wrathful skies to REALLY do some evil =).

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

or how about that one battlefield spell that takes 1 hp from everybody and gives it to the caster?

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

1 damage would rarely cause an affliction even with a death bless though.

Is it confirmed that the bless works on spells? Spells that effect the whole battlefield? If so, that's cool. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

Earthquake perhaps?

Re: Does damage from a F9 bless stack with D9 ?
 

BTW, did a test-game earlier, without the quickness form W9 the E9/N9 Niefel Giants are way too strong (my units get frozen before they can take the giants out). With quickness they manage to kill a good number before they are frozen.

So I will follow the Doctor's advice... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

But boy, are those bad scales... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

CharonJr