Getting Heroes to appear
 

I am assuming heroes appearing at your gate are a random event. Typically I use an Order 1 dominion, and set random events on rare.

Some long games go by with me only getting 1 hero, even though i am getting many random events due to map size. Would taking luck 1 help significantly getting heroes to appear?

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Afaik you have a chance of 3% per turn to get a hero and your luck scale modify this chance --> per point of luck or missfortune +- 1%. So if you have Missfortune 3 you never get your heroes.

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Luck directly affects the change of a hero appearing. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but it's something like 3% chance for a hero to appear each turn, +/- 1 per Luck scale. Taking Misfortune 3 makes heroes unavailable, and taking Luck 3 makes them twice as likely to appear.

However, even with Luck, you might get unlucky and not get many heroes even in a long game.

If you want to see heroes, I suggest playing with more default settings and taking Luck 3. It doesn't produce quite as reliable income as Order, so you might end upo a bit tight on money in the early game, but all the events add up very nicely in my experience. Many other players' opinions are quite different, though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Whenever I play with Luck +3 I always get heroes appearing early and often.

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Make sure you play with the Worthy Heroes Mod too. Then, when you actually do get a hero, you are really psyched!

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I agree many of the default heroes in DOM_3... are not really heroes.

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Quite a lot of nations only have one or even no heroes.
I made a list of heroes in the worthy heroes thread, so maybe you can´t even get a hero if you play oceania for example.

Even if you have a nation with lots of heroes the chance for a hero to appear is really random. I made quite a lot of 400+ turns testgames and even with luck3 it can take 100+ turns until a hero shows up.
In addition it seems as if the chance to get a hero is less than 6% with luck 3 or there are some other modifiers, since no nation got more than the expected one hero per 16 turns and most got significantly less.

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Most of the heroes are heroes more in the RPG sense than in the SC (SuperCombatants) sense. They definetly arent Super Heroes.

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Playing MA Ermor, I got the hero who is Ermors executioner, he has a weapon which sends victims to hell, the inferno I think.

However, he is a 8 hp mage! So groovy weapon made utterly useless, as he wouldn't survive in melee very long, even if I kitted him out with magic items galore.

This is rather sad. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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you could empower him up to 6 astral (9 with items) and have him wish for power... that'd make him more survivable...

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Most of the non-mage heroes are utterly useless. Some are useful as blessers if you get them early on (like Yasini for Machaka). Some of the mage heroes, especially early era mage heroes, rock.

My favorites so far are Malphas (Abysia), Kirke (Sauromatia), Skögu (Sauromatia), Tjatse (Niefelheim), The One in the Woods (Marverni) and Athalwolf (Ulm). Some of the Helheim heroes were nothing to thumb your nose at either.

Of those, Tjatse is by far the most versatile because not only is he A3D3W3H3 or something like that, he happens to be a Niefel Jarl. On top of being a powerful mage SC chassis, he can shapechange to a Great Eagle with a flying mapmove of 4 so he can get from place to place really quickly even without trapezing.

Kirke was also ridiculously powerful magically and had some very interesting paths compared to Sauromatian norm. Athalwolf is a kick-*** hero for EA Ulm because outside of finding sages or crystal amazons, he's the only way they can get astral magic at all and he also has D2.

Edi

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machaka has that assassin too, don't they? hes a limitedly usefull non-mage (or they had him in dom 2. he was nice for being an assassin with 3 misc slots)

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That assassin was a worthy hero http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif .

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Abasi? He's not an assassin in the vanilla game and only has 2 misc slots. He probably is the way you describe in the Worthy Heroes mod, he was changed to be that way in the Dom2 CB mod, which incorporated the Dom2 Worthy Heroes mod.

Machaka also has several ape heroes, though those might be for a different age than the middle one.

Edi