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FrankTrollman February 23rd, 2007 11:18 PM

Guide to Tien Chi
 
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FrankTrollman February 23rd, 2007 11:18 PM

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-Frank

FrankTrollman February 23rd, 2007 11:18 PM

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This spot also Reserved.

-Frank

BigDisAwesome February 23rd, 2007 11:44 PM

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reserved for saying this looks to be an awesome post even though i don't have time to read it tonight. can't wait to tear into this in the morning.

KissBlade February 24th, 2007 12:44 AM

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Looks like a good start. I'm not so sure I'm ready to dismiss a light w9 bless for Tien Chi just yet since their heavenly summons are very very good but other than that I agree, S&A is one of those nations that benefits strongly from uber scaled imprisons.

PS. I'm a bit confused by your M5E description. From what I'm reading, it sounds like they get two randoms and one sub random. (as in the case of CM's). M5E's only get one random pick out of the elements and that's it.

Hellboy February 24th, 2007 12:49 AM

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Awesome post, Frank! This is good reading for us newbies, I think it helps get a sense of how to handle the global tradeoffs your coping with in nation setup, whether you're playing w/ TC or any other nation. I'd love to see similar nation guides come out on other nations - or have I missed previous such posts?

jutetrea February 24th, 2007 06:13 AM

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Great write-up - couple quick thoughts (just finished two big SP games with them and love em).

Natural clammers

Natural wind guide and (power of phoenix)Flaming arrows. I found myself with every army having a A2 and an F2 mage with a gem scout. If one dies the 3 flying map move makes it easy to reinforce.

Flying mages

I've had a lot of trouble getting 2E - so generally need my pretender to make boots

First game I used a lot of cav and sacreds - second I used pure tower/spear and archers. I liked the simplicity and cost of the second method I think.

1 cruddy hero, 1 ok (3N, heals), 1 AWESOME SC hero (play with worhthy heroes mod, so not sure if he's stock)

Summons - IMO and only used minorly, generally save my gems for items and globals.
servant - blah
rivers - sweet with a good melee bless
Fire - awesome in numbers, firey ranged, flying
dogs - blah
soldiers - so so

In SP (big caveat) I go for a rainbow pretender - as many 4's as possible to help out with path jumps, or an astral 3 min combat pretender. Although this last game with a rainbow i had a tough time getting a good SC out, ended up going the golem route. Only got 1 hero all game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Both games I played
Turmoil 3, sloth 1, growth 1, heat 2, luck 3, magic 1, sleeping. Slow start - but I've just had such good luck with luck http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif i think I could easily take death for a bigger jump.

Fun fun nation, moved up to the top of my list

tromper February 24th, 2007 02:23 PM

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Having never played Tien Chi before, I am completely and utterly stunned that I *feel* that I have. A thousand times. And all thanks to your fantastic guide, Frank! Thanks! More more!

Perhaps append it to the wiki?

Tyrant February 24th, 2007 04:32 PM

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Nice post Frank!

Edi February 24th, 2007 04:47 PM

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Great post, Frank. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

We need more of this kind of thing and if we get them, somebody needs to keep track of the threads, e.g. by linking all of those threads every time there is a new one.

Edi

Ssin February 27th, 2007 02:42 PM

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As a quick note:

Bless strategies get a whole lot easier if you have your A2 celestial master first cast "Power of the Spheres" and then he's capable of blessing the whole battlefield (since he gets one additional holy point as well). This fixes the lack of holy issue that Tien Chi often has.

Great guide. If you're feeling particularly dedicated - you might cover their national summons as they are a pretty large part of your mid-game army.

Ssin

Methel February 27th, 2007 04:15 PM

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great guide! I was waiting and hoping for this after reading your advice on TC in another thread.

Any chance of doing the other ages aswell?

WraithLord February 28th, 2007 11:26 AM

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great post. I'll add to it to my nation guides list http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Sandman February 28th, 2007 11:51 AM

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Would it be OK to put this in the strategy wiki? With attribution, of course.

mathusalem February 28th, 2007 12:09 PM

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can you give URL of the wiki ?

FrankTrollman February 28th, 2007 02:01 PM

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Sandman February 28th, 2007 04:20 PM

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Here's the link.

Apart from wikifying it and correcting a few typos I've not changed anything. I did try to pedantically correct the spelling of T'ien Ch'i, but gave up a quarter of the way through.

mathusalem March 1st, 2007 06:36 AM

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thanks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

FaceLess March 5th, 2007 06:39 AM

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Excellent guide, I started an early era-sp game and things worked fine. I quickly eliminated niefelheim, Lanka and doing well against Kailasa. Ermor, however, is much more of problem; it is the strongest nation on the map and throws big armies against me. So any specific tips how to counter their heavy cavalry? I should probably mention that I have a very low earth income. Enliven statue is not a real option.

Vathmoth May 20th, 2007 02:15 PM

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I would really like to read this guide, but it seems it was deleted by the author...
Could someone please tell if I can find it anywhere else?

Amhazair May 20th, 2007 02:54 PM

Re: Guide to Tien Chi
 
It was copied to the strategy wiki, link here: http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Dominio...ing_and_Autumn

Vathmoth May 20th, 2007 03:00 PM

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Thank you


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