Blessed troops should get bonus if priest present
 

It would be nice if blessed troops would get their bonus if they are in the same province as a priest. Eliminating micromanagement should be a goal of games. And it is a pain if your priests do not have divine blessing to keep troops blessed. An alternative would be lowering the divine blessing spell to p1, so that any priest could bless your troops.

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I'm not very experienced with the game yet, but it seems to me this would make priest levels irrelevent. Some nations have better priests than others. I think this is represented well with the current game mechanic.

It's little effort to have a priest cast bless several times. After all, the battle mages need to be scripted too.

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Micromanagement should be cut down in dom3, yes. But this doesn't seem to be a very good way of doing it. If you really want to implement this though it's very easy to make a mod that will do the job. Actually it would take even someone totally new to mods about 5 minutes to make. Less maybe.

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What is so difficult to script one priest with 'bless, bless, bless, spells' and copy this script to all the other
priests? Is just using a shortkey. There is micromangement in the game but scripting bless isn't much responsible for it.

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I'd be happy enough if Sermon of Courage would be lowered to be a H1 spell, so that my Ulmish infantry doesn't route as fast in battle... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

But I understand why it is done as it is now. You can get a H3 priest for every nation by assigning a prophet, so you have Divine Bless for at least one army.

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Isnt bless one of the things that an unscripted priest does anyway? Seems like I see it alot even when I dont script them. So basically it would be the same as "automatic" except that you arent slipping in a free action.

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Getting lots of troops blessed without Divine Bless is a hassle. You need more than one priest and even then some may not get blessed.

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Divine bless is that level so that only some nations have access to it outside their prophet.

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Blessing only has a range of 10 also, and it would not make high level priests less useful. They still have smite and fanaticism. Smite is the key priest spell in any event. If you think about it, a priest would bless his troops before battle any way, not during the fight.

if you want your blessed troops to start as far to front as possible, and have priests out of arrow range, then you explain to me how you can guarantee that your troops will get blessed with level 1 or 2 priests?

I also think if your god is in the province, the troops should be blessed automatically as well. I mean how much more blessed can you get then being in the presence of your god?

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I agree about the pretender having insta-divine bless, but smite is not the key priest spell...

clearly divine blessing is, otherwise you'd be asking for smite to be lowered to P1 instead of divine blessing. (since it is key, right?)

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Explain how to get your frontline troops blessed by low level priests without the priests getting smacked? It seems to me thats the definition of a low level priest. Short range.

Now the possibility of the pretender giving auto bless to everyone in the province, that I could see as being thematic.

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First I want to say I would not be for the idea of autobless. It would unbalance the game, and make preists overpowered. It would take away alot of the stratagy.

However it does make sence from a role playing point of view. The battle is not a suprise, so couldn't the preist just bless them before the battle while they are getting into formation?

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Then mages should be able to cast summon earth/phoenix power, flaming arrows and all other kind of buff spells, too - No. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Try playing ulm and tell me that smite is not the best priest spell! I guess it depends on the race you play and even what specs your god has.

When I play pangaea i do not even use the blessed troops, so it also depends on play style. When I play acrosphale, the backbone of my armies are heart companions with 9f blessing and regeneration. So with them divine blessing is crucial(but they have good priests anyway).

really the only race i play i use blessed troops and find it a pain to bless is man. But it is micromanagement to have 3 priests scripted to cast bless 5 times. And really, from a rp perspective, if you have priests in the battle, you should not have to worry about them blessing your sacred troops.

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If I play Ulm, then Sermon of Courage is the best priest spell there is because I can't cast it and my troops are routing at the first chance they get...

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Battles can, in fact, be surprises. Nobody really expects a Gift of Kurgi'd flying Devourer of Souls to fly into town, unless they're playing a really twisted enemy. Vastnesses and some other units can move 10 provinces a turn; and magical movement can go much further. Never mind attacks that were unexpected backstabs...

As for blessing -- in practice I see little need to script it with pure priests; they're blessing-happy already, even if they're being accompanied by a Divine Blessing-scripted prophet who's been doing this first turn for battles over the last few game-years.

A mage-priest, however, can be worth scripting (especially a prophet for Divine Blessing), because the additional options from his other magic paths may distract him.

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I have played Ulm more than any other race and never had any problem with them routing. I start with 3 prod, 3 order, 1 growth, with couple heat /cold.

I like high income/production. The troops i buy are mostly ranged crossbow men and black knights. I usually clog up the area right in front of my ranged troops with guardians/pikemen mix. Pikes have 11 morale and are cheap, and the guardians have an even higher morale which mixed in helps pikes.

But with ulm the calvary/ranged units are the way to go. I forget the morlae of calvary but they do not rout often, so i am not sure what units you are getting that rout? Never buy basic 10 morlae infantry. No need to go there.

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Moving further off topic, I wouldn't mind seeing Ulm getting a 'banner' unit or commander. It's kind of odd that they don't have one, actually.