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Kamog March 10th, 2007 11:39 PM

OT: Daylight Saving Time and Computer Clock
 
In North America, daylight saving time is going to start tomorrow morning with 2:00 am becoming 3:00 am. Question: how do you get Windows to change the time at this new date, and stop it from automatically changing the time again at the old date in April? Is there some setting we can adjust so that we don't have to manually change the clock each time?

Atrocities March 10th, 2007 11:42 PM

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Good question.

geoschmo March 10th, 2007 11:49 PM

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Microsoft probably has an update for this by now.

Atrocities March 10th, 2007 11:50 PM

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Checking now.

geoschmo March 10th, 2007 11:55 PM

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Update for Windows XP (KB931836)
Date last published: 2/13/2007
Typical download size: 102 KB
Installing this update enables your computer to automatically adjust the computer clock on the correct date in 2007 due to revised Daylight Saving Time laws in many countries. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
System Requirements
Recommended CPU: Not specified.
Recommended memory: Not specified.
Recommended hard disk space: Not specified.
How to Uninstall
This software update can be removed via Add or Remove Programs in Control Panel.
Get help and support
http://support.microsoft.com
More information

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931836

Kamog March 11th, 2007 12:00 AM

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Thanks for your help, Geo. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Baron Munchausen March 11th, 2007 12:01 AM

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There are also some free updates for pre-XP versions of Windows. Googling will probably find them. The easiest solution is to just change your settings to NOT automatically change the time for daylight savings. Then your computer is just one more clock to update manually.

Spectarofdeath March 11th, 2007 03:31 AM

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Man, it's like summer is already here and its only march!!!

TurinTurambar March 11th, 2007 05:02 AM

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Word. Gonna be 95F here tomorrow.

Renegade 13 March 11th, 2007 01:12 PM

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In my opinion, it's bloody stupid having DST early this year. Supposedly it'll save energy...but is there really any reason to believe this, or is it just another thing to appease the public who freaks out about energy consumption/"global warming"??

Baron Munchausen March 11th, 2007 02:33 PM

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It's not necessarily about energy. The last time they extended it a few weeks it was about industry (whoever sells grills, charcoal, etc.) wanting people to start the barbecue season early. To do that they needed more daylight after work, so Congress was lobbied to create more daylight after work.

capnq March 11th, 2007 02:38 PM

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I've seen claims that DST doesn't actually give a net savings of energy, either, but I don't have a link handy.

Renegade 13 March 11th, 2007 10:27 PM

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It especially makes no sense in Canada; it's dark in the winter no matter what you do with the clocks! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Atrocities March 11th, 2007 11:49 PM

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Well my PC didn't update to the new time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif My lap top did, but it is running XP Pro, the PC is running XP Home. (SP2)

AgentZero March 12th, 2007 03:20 AM

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My PC updated just fine. Didn't even bug me about it. I'm so proud of my little box for doing what it's supposed to all by it's self. *sniff* They grow up so fast!

Atrocities March 12th, 2007 04:35 AM

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My PC keeps wanting to apply some Msql something patch. It applies it, then MS update downloads it again and wants to install it again. Over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Finally I just got PO'ed and turned it off.

GuyOfDoom March 12th, 2007 02:00 PM

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I've seen claims that DST doesn't actually give a net savings of energy, either, but I don't have a link handy.

I'll search for the link as well, but yeah it's been shown without a doubt that DST does pretty much nothing about what it was originally designed for.

Atrocities March 12th, 2007 02:46 PM

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The price per Barrel of oil comes down nearly $10.00 9 months ago, the price of gas takes a month to reflect that change, it lowers $0.10. Over six months it comes down $0.25 but in one day, fallowing a report that gas consumption is up, the price of gas goes from $2.65 a Gal to $3.20 a gallon. WTF!!!!!!! One DAY! And the Demo's won on the promise that they would stop this kind of price gouging. Yet they do nothing. Business as usual. We get lied to and and the politicians get rich off of the under the table deals they have going with the greedy oil companies. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

GuyOfDoom March 12th, 2007 03:08 PM

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I just love how the public has been convince that a car that gets 25 MPG is "awesome" when cars have been able to get that for over 40 years.

Baron Grazic March 12th, 2007 07:25 PM

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Just be carefully installing that Time Zone patch especially if you use Appointments in Outlook, because in past experience it will screw them up.
Also check carefully to see if you have to uninstall the patch afterwards, because for 1 Australian Daylight Saving Time Change Micro5oft made the change permanently instead of just for the 1 year.

geoschmo March 12th, 2007 09:02 PM

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GuyOfDoom said:
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I've seen claims that DST doesn't actually give a net savings of energy, either, but I don't have a link handy.

I'll search for the link as well, but yeah it's been shown without a doubt that DST does pretty much nothing about what it was originally designed for.

That's ridiculous. Daylight Savings Time was promoted heavily by Benjamin Franklin as a way to cut down on the number of candles burned. And considering we use way less candles now than we did before I'd say it's been a resounding success. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Kamog March 13th, 2007 12:37 AM

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The last time I used a candle was a few years ago, on top of a birthday cake for a friend. Yup, it's quite rare that I see candles lately. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Will March 13th, 2007 02:28 AM

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Atrocities said:
The price per Barrel of oil comes down nearly $10.00 9 months ago, the price of gas takes a month to reflect that change, it lowers $0.10. Over six months it comes down $0.25 but in one day, fallowing a report that gas consumption is up, the price of gas goes from $2.65 a Gal to $3.20 a gallon. WTF!!!!!!! One DAY! And the Demo's won on the promise that they would stop this kind of price gouging. Yet they do nothing. Business as usual. We get lied to and and the politicians get rich off of the under the table deals they have going with the greedy oil companies. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

The price of gasoline fluctuates like that because there is nearly zero inventory of gasoline, and there have been no refineries opened in decades. So, if something like Katrina hits and a bunch of refineries go down, supply takes an immediate hit, and prices rise. If there are reports of increased demand, that also raises prices since all the stations need to get more money to replenish their tank. The oil company leadership doesn't care because they know that the demand for fuel will always be there, so they can get away with it. Politicians can't do much of anything to change it, except perhaps remove all clean-air and water regulations so the oil companies no longer have the environmental impact excuse (this would be a bad idea by the way).

The consumer's only recourse is to find ways to use less gasoline. Everyone around here seems to think the 47mpg I average on my civic is great, but I can't help but think that we can do better. Wikipedia says US mpg averages 20, while European averages 40 and Japanese 45. And then we still have all the yuppies that believe they are entitled to drive behemoth 7-seater "light truck" SUVs down the freeway at 85mph, alone, with a ton of cargo in the back because they couldn't be bothered to unload it for the past month, guzzling a gallon every 8 miles if they're lucky, during their 60 mile commute to and from work every day (that's $45/day). If you want to blame someone, blame them. If those people didn't consume so much gasoline, and weren't so willing to pay these prices for it, then YOU wouldn't have to paying those prices either. Me, I'm just glad I only spend $40 a month for gas. Well, now that prices are up around $3.10 here, probably closer to $45-50...

And the Democrats might have said that the price of gasoline shouldn't be so high, but that's not the reason they won. But the thread is already off-topic enough.

I'm not going to change my clocks that didn't automatically change. I'll just continually believe that I'm an hour early for everything.

Baron Grazic March 13th, 2007 02:37 AM

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Atrocities said:
Well my PC didn't update to the new time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif My lap top did, but it is running XP Pro, the PC is running XP Home. (SP2)

Hi Atrocities.
Micro5oft have just admitted that not all PCs updated the time zone as expected. See article for fix.
http://www.itnews.com.au/newsstory.a...edate=20070313

AgentZero March 13th, 2007 03:52 AM

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Baron Grazic said:
Hi Atrocities.
Micro5oft have just admitted that not all PCs updated the time zone as expected. See article for fix.
http://www.itnews.com.au/newsstory.a...edate=20070313

But mine did! Doesn't anyone else see the sheer magnificance of that fact? I mean, what are the odds?


No really... What are they?

Fyron March 13th, 2007 05:28 AM

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GuyOfDoom said:
"I just love how the public has been convince that a car that gets 25 MPG is "awesome" when cars have been able to get that for over 40 years."


Really? I've never met anyone that considered an average gas-using car (~20,25 MPG) to be "awesome." Just plain normal.

GuyOfDoom March 13th, 2007 11:36 AM

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Imperator Fyron said:
GuyOfDoom said:
"I just love how the public has been convince that a car that gets 25 MPG is "awesome" when cars have been able to get that for over 40 years."


Really? I've never met anyone that considered an average gas-using car (~20,25 MPG) to be "awesome." Just plain normal.

I've gotten in a few arguments with people, especially those that keep buying SUV's regardless of the gas prices.

Renegade 13 March 13th, 2007 07:05 PM

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Kamog said:
The last time I used a candle was a few years ago, on top of a birthday cake for a friend. Yup, it's quite rare that I see candles lately. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Last time I used some candles was during the 5 day power outage after those massive storms in October last year. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

GuyOfDoom March 13th, 2007 07:06 PM

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Renegade 13 said:
Quote:

Kamog said:
The last time I used a candle was a few years ago, on top of a birthday cake for a friend. Yup, it's quite rare that I see candles lately. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Last time I used some candles was during the 5 day power outage after those massive storms in October last year. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Ouch http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Renegade 13 March 13th, 2007 07:14 PM

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Yep! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

NullAshton March 13th, 2007 07:29 PM

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Microsoft had a patch sometime last year for it. They were pretty quick to release the update.


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