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Siirenias March 19th, 2007 03:44 AM

Freaking Politics!
 
So, lately, my allies have been noticing that my economy is twice that of anyone else's. And they ask for an economic loan...

However, they all refuse my gifts and question my honor in a most "you're lucky you're my friend" sort of way.

Am I missing something? Is there some way to boost their economies aside from boosting trade as dictated in our treaty or outright gifts? It's very frustrating.

Randallw March 19th, 2007 04:08 AM

Re: Freaking Politics!
 
Seems like strange behaviour, not just their responses but the idea that if you are twice as powerful as everyone else why give them aid.

Siirenias March 19th, 2007 04:20 AM

Re: Freaking Politics!
 
Because these other empires are separating me from my enemies. I'm hoping to keep them friends, and I want them strong friends.

I think being American is a bad influence on me.

Randallw March 19th, 2007 05:30 AM

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ok, well as long it is sound strategic sense and not some misguided altruism http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Siirenias March 20th, 2007 12:12 AM

Re: Freaking Politics!
 
Motives aside, how do I accomplish this feat of econo"magic"?

Randallw March 20th, 2007 02:03 AM

Re: Freaking Politics!
 
I jumped to the conclusion we were discussing other human players, which is partly why I found the behaviour peculiar, however are they AI? The AI is rather unpredictable as far as I know.

Siirenias March 20th, 2007 02:10 AM

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Oh. Yeah. AIs. I'm just wondering if I was overlooking an item of gameplay that the AIs were requesting. I'm still feeling my way around the game.

Siirenias March 22nd, 2007 01:36 AM

Re: Freaking Politics!
 
I hate to bump a thread, but I really do need a more productive response to this issue.

Combat Wombat March 22nd, 2007 02:12 AM

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Sounds like a case of stupid SEV ai to me

Siirenias March 22nd, 2007 02:23 AM

Re: Freaking Politics!
 
Okay, I think that's what I needed to know. Thanks, Wombat.

Captain Kwok March 22nd, 2007 02:30 AM

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It's not really that the AI is stupid, but rather their anger level towards exceeds their maximum amount for accepting a gift. What is their mood towards you?

Siirenias March 22nd, 2007 02:36 AM

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The one that needs the help is indifferent. And I tried both a very large sum and a very small sum, and a middle sum. All turned down. As do they turn down any new treaty proposals.

PDF March 22nd, 2007 01:02 PM

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Quote:

Captain Kwok said:
It's not really that the AI is stupid, but rather their anger level towards exceeds their maximum amount for accepting a gift. What is their mood towards you?

It still is stupid, rationnally they should accept more easily gifts from enemies than friends ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

capnq March 22nd, 2007 04:13 PM

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Quote:

PDF said: It still is stupid, rationnally they should accept more easily gifts from enemies than friends ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Maybe every alien race has its own version of the Trojan Horse myth.

Suicide Junkie March 22nd, 2007 09:58 PM

Re: Freaking Politics!
 
The maintenance burden crippled ship in the middle of nowhere.

Siirenias March 23rd, 2007 01:14 AM

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Quote:

Suicide Junkie said:
The maintenance burden crippled ship in the middle of nowhere.

Sure, it's a cakewalk until the screaming starts.

AgentZero March 23rd, 2007 03:37 AM

Re: Freaking Politics!
 
It's taken me this long to figure out you guys were talking about SE5. For some reason I thought you were discussing a game called Politics.
Not surprising, I suppose, given that by my count 63% of the threads on the first page are OT. Not that that's a bad thing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif


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