Game: Shadow People (started)
 

OK, I couldn't help myself, and kicked off another game.

Server IP Address: 205.217.155.218
Port: 8096
Late Era, random map of 15 provinces per player, renaming enabled.
Quickhost or every 48 hours.

join now! I'll start it once a bunch of folk have joined.

Re: Game: Shadow People
 

I CALL DIBS ON PLAYING MAN!

But I'm headed out and don't have a chance to make a pretender right this moment. I'll get one uploaded tomorrow morning ASAP.

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The sign in page looks as though this game is MA instead of LA. Not a big concern, but it may cause some confusion.

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I'm in, justnot sure what nation I want to play yet be back in a few minutes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Late Era T'ien Chi for me

Middle Arco if that's what it'll be

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agree with Saint_dude, looks like an MA game with Machaka in there. That the goal?

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I would like to give Ulm a go if it is indeed LA.

Would prefer Pythium if it remains MA - as it appears at the moment.

ULM IT IS ...

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I'll play as Machaka.

If the game really is late era - Mictlan.

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Edited: Thanks for hosting these games, Zachariah. At first I couldn't resist the temptation. Luckily I got a second chance to make a morale check, and this time I passed! So, have fun everyone http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. Sorry for the dud post.

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I would like to play as r'lyeh ( dreamlands) if late age, not sure what I will play if it is middle age. will check back on that. Let us know.

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Abysia for MA
Ermor for LA

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I feel like trying Pangea again...

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I would like to try Bandar Log for MA or Black Forest for LA.

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sorry folks: I meant for this to be a late era, but started it as a middle era. I'm restarting now...

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I would like to try Marignon LA or MA.

Stelteck.

Re: Game: Shadow People (open)
 

Ill give Patala a try.

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I'm in as man, that makes 3 of us uploaded

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I'll join as Utgard.

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Signed up as Atlantis.

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In as Midgard.

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Was going to take TC but I seem to recall someone calling LA TC already so I went Jomon...

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Yeah, called LA TC but keep changing pretenders. Trying out my 4th now...work really cuts into testing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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sigh, k I'm in. Trying something a bit different for me

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Changed my mind, I'll play Ermor.

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I already called Ermor for LA.

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12 so far, how many total provinces?

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Ulms been taken I will try Pangaea instead.

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I believe the province total will be the amount of playersX15 Jutetrea

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Just checking http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif sometimes folks expect like 12x15 and then get more.

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If Ermor is not taken I would play it. I think a list at the beginning would be helpful.

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ok, i kicked it off! see you on the battlefield...

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First turn in, would be cool if we could bang out the first few turns quickly between today and tomorrow

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What's the deal with the little crowns on the map?

Re: potential problem
 

I really do hate to gripe about the map (which looks nice by the way), or my start position (which is lame), but I think this layout may potentially produce a very unbalanced game.

Has anyone else noticed that there is a vast ocean in the south? By my count 20 contiguous water provinces, plus an island (5 provs), that are all presumably off limits to everyone except R'lyeh. I am playing Atlantis, but I am no where near this vast ocean (I would probably have to carve through 2 other empires to get there). In addition to these 25 contiguous uncontested provinces, R'lyeh can easily expand into the southwest corner in order to pick up an additional 3 water provinces by simply crossing a 1 province land bridge. In other words, R'lyeh should be able to easily put together a 30 + province empire without having to confront anything but low level independents. LA R'lyeh is not a major powerhouse, but this is an incredible starting advantage.

I really feel guilty posting this - seems like bad etiquette.

But if this is map is designed to have 15 provs/player, and 1 player has nearly uncontested access to 30+ provs, then the other players have 13.5 provs/player. Not only that but it is very difficult to expand efficiently into your allotted 13.5 provs without coming into conflict with your neighbors. Wars are likely to break out before any other player locks up more than 7 or 8 provs.

Seems like it would be easier to restart at turn 1 on a different random map, than to embark on a clearly unbalanced scenario, no?

Re: potential problem
 

yup, going to be insanity everywhere...ick

Re: Game: Shadow People (open)
 

They are Victory Points, and don't let anyone tell you they are unimportant because you don't have a victory point conditions set up in your game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

They will act as a Dom strength 5 temple, and help spread and defend your dominion. This could be very useful if you have an imprisoned pretender, low dominion scale, or cannot afford to build more temples. Even if that's not the case for you, it's a good idea to take the crowns to deny them to the other nations. (Note the crowns do not contribute to your temple count for the purpose of adjusting the limit on the number of recruitable holy units).

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Really? I've never played a game with VP's.
So if VP's aren't in the game setup, then how did they get in the map?

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Did the server get restarted again? 23H till next hosting? What's up with Caelum?

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According to the first post, the server is set to quickhost or will host every 48 hours.

I did not notice anyone signing up as Caelem so it's hard to tell why the turn is delayed.

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Hmm, sorry another game had the first 18 at 24, then moved to 48...

Still, considering the first turns only take a few minutes this is going real slow.

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So, should we all patch now?

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Since no one knows who Caelum is and the new patch just came out. Maybe we should restart the game under the new patch?

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I second that motion.

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Thirded

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4thed

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/agree
maybe a little map touchup to ensure the water areas are fair would be in order too.

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We could just start yet another game at that rate, no reason to abandon this one.

If your start is dreadful, just consider it an additional challenge http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

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one reason among many.....they took care of the y castle finding bug which lets you know where everyone start castle is (if you know the bug). I just found out about it in these latest patch notes. Thats huge. Wonder how mnay people were using that and not telling everyone.

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I notice Stelteck didn't show up to claim Marignon. If we start a new game, I would like to switch to Marignon. That way Vathmoth could have Ermor.

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Very well, lets restart then.

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Seems to be the consensus.