New Patch!!
 

Hrm... it seems the news hasn't filtered down into the message Boards yet. Yep, the new patch has been released. Check out Shrpanel's front page and the downloads page.

Thanks again to Aaron for continuing to make the game better!

LL (Eric)
seiv.pbw.cc

[Edited to note] The Admiral has also, now, updated the PBW site for 1.41 support. [/edit]

[This message has been edited by LazarusLong42 (edited 20 June 2001).]

Re: New Patch!!
 

Odd... Malfador's page dosen't have the patch.
I usually would check there for patches first, but oh well.
Thanks for the tip.

Edit: It's there now. Looks like I just had to refresh the page.

[This message has been edited by suicide_junkie (edited 20 June 2001).]

Re: New Patch!!
 

I saw it there.
It also looks like the fixed the fighter group bug.

Re: New Patch!!
 

Seems a lot of people noticed about three hours ago. Couldn't get in. Seems to be working fine now, or I managed to slip in.



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Re: New Patch!!
 

There is one really important new feature for multiplayer games. Ability to disable surrendering.

Re: New Patch!!
 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>There is one really important new feature for multiplayer games. Ability to disable surrendering.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, Gifting everything you own to somebody would be exactly like surrendering, except for units.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zarix:
There is one really important new feature for multiplayer games. Ability to disable surrendering.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

EXCELLENT!

It wasn't listed in the history.txt, so I didn't think it made it into the patch. This is very good. Thank you Aaron!

Geo

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by geoschmo:
EXCELLENT!

It wasn't listed in the history.txt, so I didn't think it made it into the patch. This is very good. Thank you Aaron!

Geo<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yes! THANK YOU AARON!!!

Re: New Patch!!
 

Question, guys: Isn't surrendering just the same as gifting all your stuff? This won't change much, as far as I can tell.

Re: New Patch!!
 

It is more or less the sdam but I believe there is an option (and always has been) to disallow gifts and tributes.

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Re: New Patch!!
 

Has anyone figured out what "Version 1.37: Fixed - Allegiance Converters should not work against ships with Master Computers."
did?
I tested it and you still can convert a ship after you destroyed the master computer (thanks the gods!!). And in my experience even in the old Versions you could not convert a ship with an intact master computer.
Do I miss something??

[This message has been edited by Q (edited 21 June 2001).]

Re: New Patch!!
 

I always took it to be fixing the problem when an Alleigence Converter worked against a functioning Master Computer.
I am confused over this too but if in the end it doesn't work if there a functioning Master Computer then I'm happy because that was the only defense against it.

Re: New Patch!!
 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nitram Draw:
I always took it to be fixing the problem when an Alleigence Converter worked against a functioning Master Computer.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't think it ever did.

Re: New Patch!!
 

Then what did they fix?

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&lt;quote&gt;
10. Note - If you turn on the Resupply Minister, it will give orders to any and
all ships, regardless of their individual minister setting.
&lt;/quote&gt;

Hmm. I tried that, and ships happily run out of fuel and then just sit there. At least that's what is happening in sim turns games. Can anyone confirm that?

Thanks -- Aub

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Q:
And in my experience even in the old Versions you could not convert a ship with an intact master computer.
Do I miss something??
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

According to my experience Alligience SUBVERTERS have always been able to convert master computers.



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Re: New Patch!!
 

ITs supposed to be; if the target vessel has a master computer you cannot convert the crew.. once the target vessels MC is destroyed - you can. Thats why having the computer virus tech is nice when your a psychic race.

Its working correctly.

[This message has been edited by AJC (edited 22 June 2001).]

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AJC:
...if the target vessel has a master computer you cannot convert the crew.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Because ...there isn't any?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AJC:

once the target vessels MC is destroyed - you can.

Its working correctly.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mabbe it's working correctly NOW (1.41) - when the bug has been fixed.

Several of my MC have been subverted from time to time - I have NEVER seen the opposite, except for when I put a Self Destruct device onboard. The alligience subverter doesn't seem to work against Self Destruct devices (or maybe the AI just doesn't fire the AS at ships with SD devices?)

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Re: New Patch!!
 

The computer will and can use the Allegiance Subverter on ships with Self-Destruct devices. It happened to me earlier today - I had added self-destructs to most of my fleet thinking that those Abbidon punks would get a nasty suprise. They did not. It seems that the self-destruct does not work against the subverter.

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Re: New Patch!!
 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lucanos:
According to my experience Alligience SUBVERTERS have always been able to convert master computers.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That they can....I lost 2 carriers and a SYS to a computer Phychic race. They both has MC on them and never got hit with any other weapon.

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Re: New Patch!!
 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lucanos:
According to my experience Alligience SUBVERTERS have always been able to convert master computers.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's really strange!
I repeately tested it in the combat simulator and was never able to convert a ship with intact master computer.

Re: New Patch!!
 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by capt_spoogy:
The computer will and can use the Allegiance Subverter on ships with Self-Destruct devices. It happened to me earlier today - I had added self-destructs to most of my fleet thinking that those Abbidon punks would get a nasty suprise. They did not. It seems that the self-destruct does not work against the subverter.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I think that since your crew members are mind-controlled by the enemy (or brainwashed or whatever) they won't voluntarily self-destruct their own ship...

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I'm not sure how it works now, but why should an 'AS' work on a ship with a MC at all. Destroying a MC would not suddenly conjure up a crew that could then be subverted. MC's are expensive, and why should any ship mounted weapon have an automatic shot at destroying the largest vessel. In fact, it is worse than destroying it since it joins the AS's side.