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Foodstamp May 12th, 2007 05:31 PM

Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
Normally it is considered a bad idea to go low astral on a Pretender because of Magic Duel. I was curious if there were any other pitfalls to going low astral on a pretender beyond losing Magic Duels to recruitable mages?

And I just wanted to make sure...

An immortal pretender who loses such a duel would respawn in his own dominion just like if he was killed through other means, correct?

quantum_mechani May 12th, 2007 05:39 PM

Re: Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
No other real pitfalls, and even the magic duel danger is somewhat over-hyped I believe.

And yes, a dueled immortal pops back up just like with any other death, assuming you were in dominion.

Ironhawk May 12th, 2007 05:40 PM

Re: Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
I cant think of any pitfalls off the top of my head. Tho.. isnt there some global that effects astral mages inside the casters dominion? Cant recall

On the bonus side of things you will never be Mind Hunted http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

quantum_mechani May 12th, 2007 05:42 PM

Re: Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
Quote:

Ironhawk said:
Tho.. isnt there some global that effects astral mages inside the casters dominion?

No one ever casts that, and the danger is technically a mind duel anyway. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Foodstamp May 12th, 2007 05:43 PM

Re: Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
Not being Mind Hunted sounds like a great trade off to me.

MaxWilson May 12th, 2007 05:46 PM

Re: Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
Strands of Arcane Power (Evoc-9) initiates Mind Duels with all enemy astral mages in friendly dominion, and Mind Burns all non-astral mages.

-Max

Jazzepi May 12th, 2007 06:09 PM

Re: Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
That's kind of cool.

Jazzepi

Ironhawk May 12th, 2007 06:23 PM

Re: Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
Quote:

quantum_mechani said:
No other real pitfalls, and even the magic duel danger is somewhat over-hyped I believe.

Not so, Q! I just had a 6S mage lose a magic duel to a 1S mage. It was a tragedy!! My people wept.

Velusion May 12th, 2007 06:29 PM

Re: Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
Quote:

Ironhawk said:
Quote:

quantum_mechani said:
No other real pitfalls, and even the magic duel danger is somewhat over-hyped I believe.

Not so, Q! I just had a 6S mage lose a magic duel to a 1S mage. It was a tragedy!! My people wept.

Was it a one-off lucky shot or did he throw lots of em at you?

Micah May 12th, 2007 07:02 PM

Re: Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
You shouldn't have been able to lose, just tie, unless this is yet another change from what's documented. Or were you just considering the mutual deaths of your opponent's crappy mage and your good one a loss?

Evilhomer May 12th, 2007 07:47 PM

Re: Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
did you have astral 6 base or equiped with items ? Since magic duel counts your base skill as i recall (not your buffs/eqipment).

Ironhawk May 12th, 2007 08:12 PM

Re: Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
I was the one firing the duel and it was a tie with both mages dying. When you are the one in control of the strong astral mage, a tie is definitely a loss http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Are you sure about that, homer? I thought that items boosted you but I wasnt sure about buffs.

Evilhomer May 12th, 2007 08:20 PM

Re: Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
I have not been doing any testing with it no, but i have heard it from several people. If someone wants to test it i would be intrested to know the results http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

RonD May 12th, 2007 09:07 PM

Re: Astral on an Immortal Pretender
 
I seem to recall a thread from the dom2 forum reaching the definitive conclusion (in the form of word from On High) that only the base astral level counts for magic duel.

That might have changed for dom3, but I rather doubt it.


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