Off Topic, AMD 1.4 ghz
 

Ok, this is opinion is based entirely upon my experience.

AMD's 1.4 Ghz CPU's are PEACES OF ABSOLUTE ****!

I just burned up another on in my new system. Oh, the cooling fan is working just fine, but that GD chip is just a POS!

Now, I have to fight the GD store that I just bought it from again, and try to get them to replace it again.

I had my system checked at a local Computer store and thay said its fine, that the new Atholons are POS, and I should have gone with a P4. Well now after two weeks of fighting with POS, I am a believer.

A system that should have only cost me 1100, has now cost me over 1600. I am very very very displeased with AMD. (All parts are AMD approve. MB, Memorie, HD, Fan, CPU [duh], Video Card, Network Card, Sound Card, and Case.)

Thank god I still have my P2 400. I am so sick of trying to get that GD thing to work that I am about to tear it down and return all the fricking peaces and go out and by a new p4 system just to spite AMD.

AMD = Crappy 1.4 ghz chips.

Re: Off Topic, AMD 1.4 ghz
 

Better install that fan correctly... but someone too dumb to do that (and use that nice software which is able to read out system and CPU temperature) shurely doesn't deserve better than paying INTEL 3 times what their slow crap is worth ...

A.

Re: Off Topic, AMD 1.4 ghz
 

Fan is installed correctly, and all on board software is, or rather, was working. I checked the stats before starting Tribes, and everything was within norms. I played Tribes for about a half hour before ending the game. I went to click on the Big Blue E thingy, and the mouse froze. Nothing worked. I rebooted, and nothing happened. I checked the temp of the CPU, by moving my hand near the fan, it was working, and the cooling fins were luke warm. Go figure.

Yes I reoved the TAPE before I put the fan on. Duh. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

[This message has been edited by Atrocities (edited 27 June 2001).]

Re: Off Topic, AMD 1.4 ghz
 

I've got an athalon (older one though) and other than taking some work to resolve a problem with my video card (issue with motherboard chipset and G400 video card) it has been the easiest to assemble and most trouble free computer I have ever had. I havn't had the computer lock up or have any of those page fault errors in over a year, when I would get them on a daily basis with my old intel chip.

Re: Off Topic, AMD 1.4 ghz
 

IMHO,

When they rush chips out to be the fastest there will always be bad chips out there. I am waiting for IBM's copper based chip which should prevnet these types of issues as well as being wickedly fast.

Still using my P-133 for over 6 years.

Re: Off Topic, AMD 1.4 ghz
 

Despite all the stuff they say, I never liked Athlon. Intel seems the way to go for most things. (Heck the Army is using them in their Land Warrior program)
Intel I think already has the copper chips already out. (I think its called the Coppermine chip, but Im not sure.)
What I want to do with a system is overclock the processor and install a super cooling system, like a water cooled one maybe.

Re: Off Topic, AMD 1.4 ghz
 

All my Athalon systems have worked fine so far..

Phoenix-D

Re: Off Topic, AMD 1.4 ghz
 

We just got a 1.2 GHz Athlon here at work. It has been running almost continually for a month, and no problems. Maybe it's your motherboard, not the CPUs.

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AMD is off the hook! Here is a quote from another thread by Atrocities:

Well, off topic news is that my new system is now working, and I am using it to post this message. The FIC AD11 motherboard I had ran very very hot, and burned up its heat sink. I later discovered that this is a common promblem with FIC Boards. I now have a MSI KT266 Raid MB, however, it is only configured to run 200 FSB right now as I have not been able to find the jumper to allow the DDR 266 memory to run at full speed. (133 x 2)

Re: Off Topic, AMD 1.4 ghz
 

No, AMD is not off my hook as I have had a bad AMD chip on the computer I had before the one I am useing now. And the one I am working on now is crashing really bad now and I suspect the CPU (an AMD) is the problem.

Re: Off Topic, AMD 1.4 ghz
 

Personally, I don't find AMD that bad of a chip on the most part. There key problem area is heat and conflicts with shady mother Boards.
I also wouldn't aim for that 1.4ghz yet either. Little to high and new. Cost justification between a 1.2ghz ($105.00) and a 1.4ghz ($185.00) isn't worth it.
Back in the old days of Cyrix, many companies would cover the label up and place an intel sticker over the chip. Or would just epoxy the heat sink to the processor and the average customer would never know.
Be careful that the company didn't sell you a 1.1ghz chip and figured you'd over clock it to 1.4ghz.
A simple test would be to feel the chip to see how warm it's running, when you get another one. You should be able to touch the chip without being burnt.
Also, the new Abit KG7-RAID motherboard is comming out this month, I plan on buying one myself with a 1.2ghz processor.
My only problem with the Pentium 4 is that when you go to upgrade your system in a year or two, your going to have to toss the case, motherboard, expensive RAM and your expensive processor since the architecture is changing between each rendition.
Heatsinks aren't just enough, expecially if you live somewhere hot like Arizona (like me). Air flow into the case should keep the air inside the case circulating. Or just leave the case off. Ambiant temp builds up in a fast machine fast.
Make sure you've used thermal paste between the processor and the heatsinnk. Thermal tape isn't good enough for a high end system.
I've been running my 400mhz AMD K6-2 for about 3 and a half years now, and it hasn't given me to many troubles. Even though it's processor fans bearings are pretty much gone from 4 years of constantly on useage.
You should beable to get another processor if you have the statement of a qualified tech who inspected your machine who stated that it was AMD aproved. If he wants to make a big deal out of it, he can have it sent back to AMD to figure out what killed it.
Sorry for the long post.

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Arocities

I would have to disagree with you about having to dump the motherboard, ram, etc when the pentium 4 gets updraded. If its a completely new chip architecture I might believe some of it, but I have upgraded various pentiums from one speed to another with nothing more than popping out the old and in with the new (thats a II to a II). I have stuck with gateway machines for the Last 12 years and have only encountered 1 problem..and that was with a video card back on a 386 that they replaced in 72 hours. Anyways, I now have a 1.7 Ghz machine, and I have seen where this new motherboard, rdram, etc should be able to support upgrades up to the 10Ghz range (within 5 yrs). This was an article I read a couple months back from one of the computer mags comparing pros and cons between Intell and Athlon. I also got the same thing from Gateway that sells machines with either chipset. My biggest reason for staying intel was upgradability and dependability.

Sabre21

Re: Off Topic, AMD 1.4 ghz
 

I have an Tbird at 1.3Ghz with an MSI MB.
It run perfectly 12-20 hours day everiday.
The problem normaly is get a good board and a very good fan.
Also use (MSI have) a program that monitor the temperature of the cpu.

Re: Off Topic, AMD 1.4 ghz
 

I have had an AMD 1 Ghz for 5 months. Always works great for me. Mother board is the most important consideration. Do your homework before buying one.

I think people find problems with both AMD and Intel in their higher end chips because they are not fully tested. I bet I could find just as many unhappy P4 Users. MotherBoards and such take awhile to catch up to the newer chips.

I try to buy mid line fully tested chips. Let other people work out the bugs in the new stuff. Saved me hundreds in extra costs.