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Anyone remember the leader personality types from the original Master of Orion? In dom3, what are you?

Agressive - Attack, you know, your neighbors. How complicated is this?
Honourable - Attack those that break treaties or who your allies (if you have them) attack.
Pacifistic - Seldom start wars, at least until your master plan is ready.
Erratic - Keep 'em guessing.
Obviously this is situational - a pacifist with a very weak neighbor would presumably attack anyway, and you're going to attack *somebody*, eventually.

plus...

Diplomat - From the begining, concentrate your energy on coordinating with other players, in terms of troop movement/production, research, expansion, and allies. Will sacrifice one of the other goals below in order to establish good relations with one or more neighbors. Doesn't mean you want good terms with *all* your neighbors, though.
Expansionist - Concentrate on grabbing as many provinces as possible. Might be regarded as the opposite of diplomat.
Technologist - Concentrate on getting to higher level magic as quickly as possible. May or may not mean concentrating on research/construction.
Ecologist - Concentrate on getting your gem income up as early as possible. Might be regarded as the opposite of technologist.
Militarist - At the begining, try to build the largest/most powerful military possible, as quickly as possible. Often means heavy use of sacreds, but may also mean huge wads of other exemplary units (longbowmen or skinshifters, for example.)
Industrialist - Concentrate on building forts early, maybe for troops but generally to amass a large number of national mages.

Obviously (with the possible exception of diplomat) everyone does all of these things, it's just a question of emphasis, especially early in the game.

I would say that I'm an Agressive Diplomat.

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is "Dumb" an option?

I played Yomi with an imprisoned Cyclops, accidently left 250 points unused, due to thinking it was awake. I then went on to research blood magic for four turns, until I realized I wasn't playing Lanka. Finally, I ignored the actual Lankan armies massing on my borders, and declared war on Tien Chi. I lost on turn 23.

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I'd have to say Pacifistic Expansionist. But 'technologist' and 'ecologist' are hardly opposites, more often than not the top nations in gems and research are one in the same.

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Can I be a techno-industrial pacifist?

I need to work on my inner Aggressive Militaristic Expansionist http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

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Dunno, I may simply be erratic. But I am definately the opposite of a pacifistic diplomat, and I certainly need to improve as an industrialist. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Honorable eco-technologist with a dash of diplomacy. Have to work on that whole "master plan" thingy, seems I get to about turn 50 and go "now what?"

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I would be Expansionist Industrialist, i think.

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Erratic ecologist with pipe cleaner whiskers.

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Honourable Diplomat with "this is obviously situational" - attitude

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Honourable Expansionist.

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Agressive Creative Militarist

War bonds for Midgard anyone?

Jazzepi

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Diplomatic Expansionistic Ecologist to start. Then Honourable, pacifistic, technologist for midgame. Then, if I'm still alive, Fanatic, Maniacal, Militaristic, Totalitarian Ruler of the World!!!!

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Honourable Ecologist here

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Aggressive Techologist Expansionist and Holistic

This is a category I added myself:
Holistic: Someone who doesn't use Blood magic.

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Noisy Erratic Diplomat (temporarily retired).

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Honorable Industiralist for me. It's all about the infrastructure. [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Hammer.gif[/img]

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Erratic Industrialist for me.

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Honorable Pacifistic Expansionist

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Honorable Diplomat
and a strong touch of Erratic (as long as it doesnt violate honorable diplomat)

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Agressive Diplomat

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Erratic, expansionist and militeristic for me.

Does change depending on nation played thou, but this is my default favourite.

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Well, good to know that there aren't a whole lot of dishonourable militaristic expansionists out there...

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I think gandalf is one - he's just good at hiding it from us http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

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Don't believe the propaganda... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Honourable pacifist with a dash of erratic (to counterbalance the pacifist), all combined with a healthy mix of technologist/ecologist and a "this is all situational" attitude.

In other words, totally clueless as to what the heck I am doing.

The last sentence is of course my erratic side getting the best of me. You know, keep any potential enemies guessing...

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Hmm, this was fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I think I would describe myself as erratic, aggressive and diplomatic in that order, and with erratic not being an active strategy as much as a RPG-whim way of erratic.

I'm also a bad winner, that is, I don't like winning much. I like the war/contest aspect of the game, but I tend to feel sorry for my enemies if I go to well. I have to actively tell myself that it is a game to the other player as well, when I aggressively attack them. To lessen my feelings of compassion I tend to RPG as much as I can. This might lead to erratic behaviour.

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You feel sorry for your enemies?? How strange! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

You need to watch Conan the Barbarian again:

"Conan, what is best in life?"

"To crush enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women."

I would say I'm a pacifistic expansionist/ecologist.

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Almost certainly an Honorable Ecologist; this is highly theoretical, but primarily because I've played exactly one MP game, and that wasn't even fully done. I tend to think of gem income as primary income, but I've played a lot of different races (and I think Urdheim is a really interesting mod, btw).

Wyatt Hebert

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Diplomatic Aggressive Ecologist. Always gotta be at war with somebody (to increase my gem flow), but to the best of my ability make that just one person who's also fighting on another front.

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I'm definitely an honorable diplomat. There is nothing I like more than seeing a strong alliance through till the end of the game.

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I prefer to be a dirty, low down, defensive-specialist. I dislike attacking, but I love seeing the enemy fall into traps. I like to expand quickly for a short period of time, and then hold on to what I've got.

I also go for quality over quantity for troops, which fits into my guerilla-tactics mentality.

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My friends would decscribe me rather as "You can be sure than one day Chacal will backstab you" so i have a bad reputation. And I love to play the bad guys anyway.

In Dom 3 I consider myself as pacifist, until i have a big advatage on somebody. Anyway I consider myself as a poor player and I loose a lot. But the most important is to take fun, not win, at least for me.

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honourable militarist.


and that is different from how your friends describe you...how exactly?=P

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I am an Aggressive, Diplomat, and an Honorable, Militarist, Expansionist, who may behave eratically from time to time...

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Maybe the difference is that the Dom3 computer AI can't never say anything about me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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So the AI can say something about you?

Double negatives are fun.

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Just to join in: I usually choose a diplomatic role, and base my strategy on the nation's units' descriptions. As an example, I've played EA Agartha with Pale One/Ancient One armies with just few Troglodytes for support.

Also, I choose weird names. "Emppu, the Devourer of Apples", the Manticore etc, or "Lord of the Seven Teas" for Tien Chi when it was winter and I was constantly drinking tea to keep warm.

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I always find it amusing in times of peace and frightening in times of war, how people are compelled to combine a sense of honor with military actions.

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And I would reverse that. Which probably means the world is split on the subject. Unfortunately, it only takes one person seeing it as a joke to ruin it for all of us.

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Without honor, there are no pacts. Without pacts, winning is much more random. If you can't trust anyone at all, you can't combine your forces.

I agree that sometimes the pacts should be broken. That's what makes the game fun.

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I am a Diplomat, plain and simple. I only go to war when it is necessary. Unless I am playing a heavy bless nation, when I go to war as soon as possible.

As far as pacts and NAPs, I have never broken one. Although I see that it could be advantageous in some circumstances, so I would never rule it out.

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That's the whole thing though, Gandalf, the whole idea that there is somehow an honorable way to persue a war, *is* a joke.

War is an activity which destroys all honorable activities. Now it's true that one's actions in a war can be morally better or worse, and war certainly can be an unfortunate necessity-I'm certanly not a pacifist-but trying to attach some higher spiritual meaning or pride to such an act of massive death and destruction is just an illusion caused by the kind of thinking that gets one into, and then loses, wars.

Now, I want you to understand that I know where you're coming from, and I know that their are relatively "honorable" reasons to enter into, and act during, a war, but I would much prefer to talk about ethics over honor, because, in my opinion, only the first one should be persued. I also want you to understand that I would never want to insult you, or any other American soldier, because you're protecting me and mine, and that's an honorable, beautiful thing that I'm totally supportive of and appreciative of. But to me, honor in war-through war, and fighting, period-is a very relative, and dubious, thing.

One goes to war because one has to, and one acts in war in a way that gets the job done-and hopefully, in the least ugly way. But it's still an ugly business, and putting a value of your honor greater than the value you put on your life, loved ones, citizens, country, well doing so has killed a lot of good people unnecessarily.

As a martial artist (I'm not physically what the army's looking for, trust me, so no, I'm not speaking from a military experience, just from what I believe), I've always been taught to fight without pride, to end whatever is threatening me as efficiently as possible, and reduce the damage done to all parties as much as possible, as long as the threat is ended. Honor doesn't, and should never, come into it.

I have no interest whatsoever in looking good in a fight. I'd rather look like a complete jerk than have one of my loved ones or myself hurt-but even if you extend that to a world-affecting situation, an effective military strategy that reduces civilian casualties and damage to a minimum, and does *not* persue something as awful as a war-especially as awful as a modern war is capable of being-as anything other than a dirty, dull, and ugly job that *must* be done, and gotten over with as quickly as possible, is going to get my support every time over one that chooses to persue points of "honor" to their most extreme and tragic end. It should also get the support of the world community.

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Hmmm...

Methinks thou hast highjacked the thread...and perhaps may need to reconsider your definition of "honor".

In the true definition of the word, I think you will find that it is not mutually exclusive with some of the very things you believe in.

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Sometimes, it's the meaning of a word that matters-other times, it's the word itself, and what it invokes.

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By this I mean that you can't eat honor, honor doesn't stop bullets, all honor is, is the strength of character to make what you believe to be the right choices, despite the consequences, due to a belief.

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Ahhh I see. You are talking at a unit level. I think most of us were talking at the pretender level.

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Religious definitions of "honor" can be some of the most brutal. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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I'm sorry for hijacking the thread, by the way.

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I think, judging by the Jaguar game (Or at least the first part before I ended up quitting) that I am probably a Situational Militarist. Depending on what nation I decide to play, it might change, but not by much. Typically I am always either Situational or Honorable.

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I am an Honourable Industrialist Technologist Turtle...sock puppet.

I consider this a bad habit, as it makes me predictable and reluctant to try other approaches/get the most out of game content.

So, I am working to rehabilitate myself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif Gogo Blood Magic!