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Atreidi September 14th, 2007 05:13 PM

Dominions : The Movie
 
As I was playing the Dawn Map I wondered how a Dominions movie would be. It could easily be something as immense as Lord of The Rings but even better because there are more razes and nations with their own histories religions, gods, and so on.

I just hope someone out there buys the idea and makes something big out of it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Gandalf Parker September 14th, 2007 05:42 PM

Re: Dominions : The Movie
 
I think something was discussed back in Dom2 about it. The conversation went something along the line of....

1) how can I record a combat?
2) fraps
3) upload to youtube
4) edit it to add funny comments or add dance music?
5) Mac(imovie) Windows(windows movie maker)
6) real movie, me and my buddies, I want to play Lord of the Wild who draws droves of wild party girls out of the woods.

Well from there it went off track http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
But it does sound like it could at least be your 15 minutes of fame on YouTube (plus abit of advertising for Dominions) if someone wanted to do it. Better than the backyard wrestling or just-another-starwars that I keep seeing there.

Atreidi September 14th, 2007 06:01 PM

Re: Dominions : The Movie
 
Well I was thinking of something bigger... Like an actual Motion Picture Blockbuster Directed by someone big. An Epic movie with grand design and direction something like Lord of the Rings, Starwars, or even like Troy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Gandalf Parker September 14th, 2007 06:09 PM

Re: Dominions : The Movie
 
Kristoffer is a prolific writer. I get the impression that we would get a lot more storyline if he didnt feel try to avoid flooding us. Maybe he could write up a script.

Endoperez September 14th, 2007 06:51 PM

Re: Dominions : The Movie
 
I've thought about doing Dominions-themed practice projects once I can really start doing 3d stuff. I've managed to get my foot in (I'm going to study "game modeling", or 3d for games - I'm not interested in that, but didn't get to the schools I really wanted), but I'm still trying to learn to draw and quite far from actually doing anything. Still, in ten years or so, I'd like to have some cool stuff done. Perhaps not quite LotR stuff, but very good looking nonetheless. There are many, many ideas, but I don't have the skills to do them properly yet.


Example: abysian kills a satyr hoplite, zoom out and show abysians fighting satyrs/maenads and storm of vine arrows killing several abysians, a demonbred dives out of the clouds and answers with flame eruption, entanglement and dangerous melee, horde of spine devils advancing from far away BAM - music stops, black screen, and text/voice: "The flames are burning" flash of battle "The forest is in danger" flash of hoof striking ground "Your time has come" black screen, voice booms "I AM BELLEPHORON" Great White Bull smashing the abysians under his hoofs "FIRST BORN OF GAIA" various magical effects going off around him, falling fires failing to hurt him "I AM LORD OF THIS FOREST" *bang* black screen, fades to the hand grasping map image, the title appears. "Make thy kingdom come. Dominions 3 - the Awakening."

Juzza September 14th, 2007 06:55 PM

Re: Dominions : The Movie
 
We need to base it around a nation and it's national heros, the big bad enemy would likely be Ermor (we'd probably be talking MA or LA)

I'm glad someone brought this up, I had this idea a while back but never said anything about it.

Oh, but the start has to be a sorta bird view, flying over the separate nations and showing their massive armies, haha, that'd be so cool.

Autochthon September 15th, 2007 03:08 PM

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Quote:

Atreidi said:
As I was playing the Dawn Map I wondered how a Dominions movie would be. It could easily be something as immense as Lord of The Rings but even better because there are more razes and nations with their own histories religions, gods, and so on.

I just hope someone out there buys the idea and makes something big out of it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Well, how about starting with something a bit more low-key. Like, say, a Flash Comic series on the Web?

8Bit Theatre for Dom3? Yes please!

Then we release then Dom3 Music Album, CCG, RPG, RTS, MMORPG, FPS, anime, comic series, phone cards, calendars and tube socks(huh?).

Then, when we've enough capital, we can leverage more funds to deliver the coup-de-main in the form of Kris O's magnum opus - Dom3: The Movie.

It'll be to cinema what Wagner's Ring Cycle is to Classical Music.

Please...somebody stop me... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

Aezeal September 15th, 2007 03:19 PM

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lol a comic would be nice but since it's not about individuals but about armies and you can't connect the different ages and how they get that way in one comic I think it would be hard to make it interesting and still feel like dominions...

Comics are about individuals.. Dominions is NOT about individuals

Autochthon September 15th, 2007 03:40 PM

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Aezeal said:
Comics are about individuals.. Dominions is NOT about individuals

You could narrate from the top down (Pretender, the ultimate Deus Ex Machina) or from the bottom up.

After all, when sacrificing Mictlan Blood Slaves to spread Dominion, do they not bleed? Do they not have hearts that beat?

4 out of 5 Mictlan Priests say: "Yes, at least they did at the beginning". The 5th Priest was a Moon Priest, so it's debatable whether he understood the question in the first place http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif

Good lord, LA R'Lyeh and Ermor are practically begging for a visit by Rincewind, Egregious Professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography.

I did mention Samurai Cat and The Redeemer, didn't I?

Edited for poor spelling, the typing equivalent of wiping spit off the person you've been talking to.

S.R. Krol September 15th, 2007 03:46 PM

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I'd like to add why not Dominionclix? You know, those collectible miniature games? I mean c'mon, if HALO with about four different units in the video game rates their own clix game, how about Dominion's 1500+ units?

Kristoffer O September 16th, 2007 03:54 AM

Re: Dominions : The Movie
 
>Comics are about individuals.. Dominions is NOT about individuals

Dominions is about individuals! Just plenty of them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

What is a clix?

Jazzepi September 16th, 2007 03:57 AM

Re: Dominions : The Movie
 
A clix game is like...

http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/

Basically it's a miniatures game where instead of having a book with all the army stats/abilities in it, you have a dial on the base of each unit that you click one way or the other to represent damage.

Personally I think it's a little silly. I don't know if you've ever tried to play a minature game where you're suppose to be constantly picking up almost every fig on the map and then replacing them into exactly the same spot, but it's quite difficult to prevent disputes when the units go back down.

Jazzepi

Kristoffer O September 16th, 2007 04:07 AM

Re: Dominions : The Movie
 
Aha! Then I've seen them. I got some kind of tiny heroine when I was at Origins.

I suppose it is easier than stacks of paper bits with units, numbers, conditions etc, though. I never played much ASL, but I have witnessed my friend's irritation over large stacks separated in mid by foxholes or building levels, adjacent to other stacks of similar configuration. But there is perhaps not as much disputes going on at least.

Jazzepi September 16th, 2007 04:13 AM

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If this is the ASL you're talking about, and I think it is...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Squad_Leader

Clix is a different beast entirely. There's far fewer units on the board. It's more of a game like War Hammer Fantasy Battle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battle

Here's a good image of what a miniature's game looks like.

http://www.urbanwarfare.co.nz/dms/im...ntent/fowb.jpg

Jazzepi

jutetrea September 16th, 2007 05:32 AM

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/ramble on

clix would work well with a pretender + lieutenants (heroes, unique summons, and thugs possibly (jarls)). Get a big ol hex map (possibly sectional) and only have 3 or 4 units per side on the board at once. Figure out a point system, turn it into currency and then you can "buy" new units/items/spells.

While thinking of it, anyone ever play the old LOTR card game? Leaders (pretenders) had a certain amount of..er, leadership (X)(dominion?) and could control that many (X) of units.

For instance, lady of rivers (leadership 9) could be used to lead Lanka and can control 1 Mandaha (4 pts needed), 1 Queen of air (4), and 1 (whatever that assassin hero is) (1).

Or it could be broken down further, pretenders have high leadership (8-10) and heroes have lower (2-4), then uniques, troops.

You could also add items/spells but it could get complicated quick.

Similar deal - clix (which seems to simplify stats) + WoW boardgame. Simplify the stats, add a leadership function and make it a conquest/war game. Actually, a shogun type (samurai swords) might be easier to implement.

Shogun already has:
Daimyo's - leaders/pretenders
Troops - heroes/uniques
castles
economy - provinces = money, use money to activate certain items or purchase troops.
mercenaries
experience system
and a ninja - work out a similar spell system (need to spend money to cast a spell(gems))

Have like 15 iconic spells, 10 iconic items

First round would be pretender creation using a fixed # of creation points (say 25)
Choose pretender (varies between 3-8)
Choose dominion (leadership) (say 1-10)
Pick a max of 3 spells (say 1-3 each)
Pick items (say 1-3 each)

Second round - purchase army(s)/place army(s)

We've got like 3 copies of shogun in our friends group, so I'd probably buy it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

/ramble off

Kristoffer O September 16th, 2007 05:40 AM

Re: Dominions : The Movie
 
Quote:

Jazzepi said:
If this is the ASL you're talking about, and I think it is...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Squad_Leader

Clix is a different beast entirely. There's far fewer units on the board. It's more of a game like War Hammer Fantasy Battle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battle

Here's a good image of what a miniature's game looks like.

http://www.urbanwarfare.co.nz/dms/im...ntent/fowb.jpg

Jazzepi

I just menat that not only miniature games have problems with physically moving units on the map. ASL can be rather cluttered. I have played miniature games (mostly WH).

Endoperez September 16th, 2007 06:44 AM

Re: Dominions : The Movie
 
Nah, I'd still rather have Dominions Roguelike.

DenStoreFrelser September 16th, 2007 05:05 PM

Re: Dominions : The Movie
 
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Endoperez said:
Nah, I'd still rather have Dominions Roguelike.

Off topic: If you'd just like something almost overly complex, you could try Dwarf Fortress.

Serenity September 16th, 2007 05:17 PM

Re: Dominions : The Movie
 
Haaaa... I know what the next step should be. A dominions webcomic, with lots of black humor.. like Order of the Stick kind of humor, following different armies for certain amount of time and then going to next armys situation

Whats order of the stick? www.giantitp.com

Prepare to laugh yourself dead.

Endoperez September 16th, 2007 05:42 PM

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Quote:

DenStoreFrelser said:
Quote:

Endoperez said:
Nah, I'd still rather have Dominions Roguelike.

Off topic: If you'd just like something almost overly complex, you could try Dwarf Fortress.

I know of it. Learned of it way back. The next release task list is down to four items at the moment... But the D:roguelike seemed promising. I don't even remember who started the project any more.


And incidentally, just today I answered someone's post about a dream game, a tbs fantasy game with magic and items and provinces and player persona that'd lead the race and could be able to become a spellcaster and have class levels, on the bay12games forum. He wished it'd be done some day, I linked to the demo of our favourite tbs game... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif


About OOtS - yes, that's good. Seraph Inn is good, and the artist actually had planned an end for it AND ended it as planned - almost a unique achievement as far as webcomics go. Goblins (life through their eyes) started awesome, grew, and became too slow and obese and gluttered. It can still deliver the awesome, though. Pawn is hilarious, but only updates once a year. I suggest instead checking out Fredrik Andersson's art on Elfwood, and Naorhy. Awesome Swedish artist, and one of the reasons I want to study visual arts. He tells such stories in single picture... Also, his works are refreshingly NSFW, so keep out if you're afraid of boobies.
Also Gunnerkrigg Court, it's a bit like playing Kailasa and realizing the castes are based on real castes, and that the island of Lanka is Sri Lanka, and then finding out that the Gurus reincarnate... You can't believe anyone would go that deep to just create some entertainment for people who don't really understand the depth. Alternatively, it's a bit like being quite drunk, and things that shouldn't work seeming oh-so-sensible.


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