Mongoose - Starting (at last!)
 

It's been quite a while since I ran a game for new/newish players - so I thought I would get one going. This game will run on my automated PBEM server ( www.llamaserver.net ).

This'll be an MA game, played on a modified version of Parganos I've made (attached). It's similar to the normal Parganos map, but I've reassigned the terrain types a bit to make it a bit fairer (so one person doesn't start in an endless swamp, for instance).

There's room for 7 land nations and one water nation.

The timer will be on 24 hour quickhost (i.e. it hosts when all turns are in or after 24 hours, whichever is sooner). Once we reach mid game and the turns start to take longer the timer can be extended to 48 hours if people prefer.

Required level of newishness: Up to you! If you don't feel it would be unfair to play against new players, you're welcome. Probably you'll have played 0, 1 or 2 MP games or so.

Please post and say what nation you'd like! Make sure you read other people's posts to check your nation hasn't already been taken.

If this game overflows I can always start another, as well.

The nations are:

Marignon - Hardfelt
R'lyeh - Sensori
Ermor - Aezeal
Pangaea - BigandScary
Abysia - fabio80mi
Ulm - Eldanesh
Arcoscephale - Loren
Caelum - WonderLlama

Re: Mongoose - MA game for new/newish players (ope
 

Sounds like fun. I'll play.

Count me in as Pythium.

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This could be fun to try. I have never played any MP games before, so this will be a good learning experience!

Sign me up as Marignon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I'm in. I'll get back later with my nation.

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i'd be interested...i'll try machaka.

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Edit: Decided I'd better not play after all

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I want in, let me think about a nation

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I haven't played any MA games yet (plus I don't ever do serious SP games, I don't find them fun), and I sort of find myself disliking the excessive competitiveness that shows as insane aggressiveness towards all neighbors at all times of the "regular" games which isn't very conductive to having fun nor even learning how to play the nation effectively... Which is why I wanna play in this game. As for the nation, I'd like to be R'lyeh.

Edited for realizing that there can only be one water nation.

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MA Ermor for me then

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I'm in, put me down for Pangea

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Okay, I've added details of the timings (24 hour quickhost) to the first post, and noted down everyone's nations.

34259987 - sure you don't want to play?

We now have space for one more.

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Mmm i'll try it too if it is still possible.
For the nation i'll get back to you in the next 12 hours

A few questions though :

-Will any mods be used ? (reduced old age, worthy heroes, epic heroes , ecc ? )
-Version of the game? latest i guess

Re: Mongoose - MA game for new/newish players (ope
 

Okay cool, we're full.

Mods, nope, none. Some like worthy heroes are nice, but don't make a huge difference and I thought I would make it as simple as possible for a newbie game.

Right, you can now start uploading your pretenders. Here's how:

- Make sure you don't have any pretender-affecting mods (e.g. Conceptual Balance) enabled
- Go to Game Tools -> Create a pretender god in Dominions
- Go to the savedgames/newlords folder in the dominions directory, and find your pretender file (e.g. mid_pythium_0.2h)
- E-mail the file to: pretenders[ at ]llamaserver[ dot ]net
- Crucially, you must have the game name in the subject line of your e-mail

You can see the status of the game (who's joined so far) at www.llamaserver.net .

If you're not playing and are sorry you missed out on this, please still post - if I get much interest I'll start an overflow game.

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i'll go with abysia - blood and fire http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Unfortunatly i have to log out now (work) , likely u'll see my pretender for this evening!

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I'll play if there is still room, my game is dieing.

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Darn, I'm too late.

If a spot opens up, I'd like in. Caelum sounds good to me out of what's left.

Re: Mongoose - Full - but please still post if kee
 

hm. you know what, i'll yield my spot. i may be busy for the next two or three weeks and i can always join the next game that gets started.

thanks!

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Okay, Eldanesh can go in this game, and I'll start a second game up later today. WonderLlama can be player #1 in the new game, and I'll save a spot for Chicanist as well.

Eldanesh & Loren - please choose nations and submit your pretenders.

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Hey Llama, could I have my start position placed into the smaller sea? While this one's larger and is as such better on paper, it's also damn snaky and makes any fast defense nigh impossible (no 2 province movement through sea provinces). Unlike everyone else, I'd HAVE to have an nation that goes through everyone's lands. Instead, I'd like to have the option rather than be forced to do it. I think that's why Oceania was originally placed in the smaller sea bit - at least it has some level of cohesion.

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Nope, just 8 players, I'll start a new one for WonderLlama and any other takers.

With regard to the sea - my thinking was that being the only water nation you'll be at a considerable advantage, especially as entering the sea is tricky at the best of times and presumably more so for new players. Also R'lyeh is a powerful nation. If you were in the bottom left, whoever was near you would be pretty stuffed. So I think it is probably more balanced to have you in the middle. You will still probably be pretty safe (the other players will probably have to form an alliance to attack you), and if necessary you may have to turn to diplomacy yourself.

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Hey, I understand that. I just think being all snaky will, instead of being conductive to diplomatic relations, force me to be aggressive as opposed to using said diplomacy, which is something I don't really like. You know, it puts a whole lot of pressure on me that wouldn't be there if my home was securely behind a few water provinces. But if you want to keep R'lyeh where it is now, well, it's your choice.

Ermor, too, is very strong, mind, and has relatively easy access to water. Pythium is just strong. And so forth. I hope you have taken steps to nerf them in similar fashion. ;p

Like, at least put Ermor's start loc awayyy from the water!

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Ermor has relatively easy acces once I can get my commanders to breath water... and since I have water mages (or shoudl ahve) forging somestuff should be easy.

but RELATIVELY easy still means it sucks though...

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I'm interested in playing in another game, if there's space.

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So we're missing Loren, Forsooth and Eldanesh for pretenders, huh?

Me wants to play already. ;(

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It seems so !

Loren,forsooth,eldanesh if you have trouble (maybe with uploading the pretenders) let us know!!!


For llama :
First of all thanks for organizing those newbie games http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Mmm a question for future games, i take it once u upload a pretender u can't resend it later with some tweakings right ?

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fabio - yep, you can resend your pretender if you want to make some changes. So long as it comes from the same e-mail address it will be happy.

Potatoman - cool, I will start organising the new game today then (since I failed yesterday), and put you down for it.

Will also PM Loren, Forsooth and Eldanesh later on.

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Excellent. If we do get a second game going, I'd prefer no water nations, and Caelum. But if there must be water nations, I'd like Ryleh.

Is everything on your sever done by email, Llamabeast?

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Outstanding!
I've sent my new pretender file and i received an automatic notification for it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif)

Very good server scripting there llamabeast! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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if they do'n't react in 24 hours plz replace them with the others.. It's been like 2-3 days now right? if they don't react now how will it be in the game? (No offence guys I don't know you pplz and just wnat teh game started with active players http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif)

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Fair point Aezeal, okay I will wait to start the second game until everyone in this game has joined successfully. Sorry for the delay WonderLlama and Potatoman.

Will PM Loren, Forsooth and Eldanesh now.

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I shall take to the field as ulm.

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So ULM login and then we get 2 new players and we can get started.. I'm pretty exited http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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Whoah, it's started! Who's playing Jotunheim and Arcoscephale? Did Forsooth change nations or did someone else leap in?

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PS On 48 hours for first turn in case of problems - after that it'll be on a 24 hour timer (but will host before that if everyone gets their turns in).

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Oh, hang on, looks like a cock-up, Loren seems to have both Arco and Jotunheim. I'll restart the game.

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Llama, you can check their email addresses, right? See if there's a hint there?

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Good thinking Sensori, that's what I thought to do just after I posted - hence finding two Lorens!

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... Two Lorens? Guess we get a restart, then. ;p

EDIT: and when I made that post, you hadn't posted yet. Weird timing. :-D

I guess you're gonna use the Pretender Loren sent the last, right? Lawl. ;p

Oh yeah, and that's one thing you could add to Llamaserver, people should not be able to put in two Pretenders into one game, would stop this from happening altogether.

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Just asking him/her which he wants.

I'm beginning to think it might be a good idea to get WonderLlama in on this game and move Forsooth to the next. I'll PM the pretender llama now.

Re: Mongoose - Full - but please still post if kee
 

Hey Llama, for some reason your bot resent me the turn file. It's still full, I'm guessing that's the prob.

And as I said earlier, I think you could add something to the Llamaserver to stop people from sending 2 pretenders into 1 game - would stop these things from happening altogether.

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It's giving me an error saying someone is already ulm 8/

Re: Mongoose - Full - but please still post if kee
 

Jesus, someone else took Ulm after you said you'd be Ulm?

What the hell is gong on?

Re: Mongoose - Full - but please still post if kee
 

lol can't we just let the supervisor of this thread take care fo that .. send him the file and he can kill hte other one

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sadly I don't have llama's e-mail

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It's right at

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...mp;o=&vc=1

That's right on this thread.

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Yes, I have that one, it's the one that's rejecting my file.

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My address is the same, but 'llamabeast' instead of 'turns'. Anyway, I've got access to all the accounts. I'm going to sort out the chaos in a couple of hours, and hopefully get the game started (I think everyone's sent in at least one pretender now!).

Re: Mongoose - Full - but please still post if kee
 

And we're started! Hurrah! Many apologies about the delays and confusion. I've been less able than normal to keep things organised because I've just moved house and don't have internet access at home yet.

You should all have received an e-mail with the first turn in it, which also contains rough instructions on what to do. More details can be found if necessary in the LlamaServer FAQ, which should be linked in my signature. But basically it's very straightforward, just take your turn and send the 2h file back to the e-mail address you got the trn file from. You don't have to put any text in the heading or body of the e-mail.

Enjoy the game guys. The first turn has a 48 hour deadline in case of problems, and after that we're on a 24 hour timer (note that the time will move forward if people all get their turns in early).

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PS Look at the first post for final line-up and nation assignments. In recent changes/additions Loren's got Arco, Eldanesh Ulm and WonderLlama Caelum.

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Woot!!! Great news!

No need to apologize u need a great job setting up the server!
Can't wait to get back home from work to take my first turn!