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Atreidi September 16th, 2007 11:32 PM

Converting Common Image files to RGB or TGA Files?
 
Im sure someone already talked about this somewhere in this forum but I was not able to find it. I did some research online and could not find anything either. Maybe I did not researched enough. Any ways I just wanted to see anyone tell me what softwares can convert common image files to RGB or TAG files OR a software that could create raw RGB or TGA Files.

THANKS http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Ballbarian September 16th, 2007 11:42 PM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
TGA (not TAG). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I use GIMP for creating raw files and for converting. It is free and powerful. There is also IrfanView which is a good image viewer and if I remember right can convert files.

Sombre September 17th, 2007 12:57 AM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
I use Paint Shop Pro, but it isn't free.

Endoperez September 17th, 2007 03:46 AM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
IrfanView is nice. It's quick to open and to use.

Szumo September 17th, 2007 05:24 AM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
Yep, IrfanView is free and efficient.

Gandalf Parker September 17th, 2007 11:36 AM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
I tend to use IrfanView also. Its a viewer (which will let you resave images to other formats). That makes it handy also for browing the maps in the maps directory since its one of the few Ive found that understands both RGB and TGA

Lazy_Perfectionist September 17th, 2007 12:39 PM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
Odd... I haven't been able to open RGBs with IfranView, though it does list RGB as a supported format in the help files. Maybe I have a corrupt/vista install?

Gandalf Parker September 17th, 2007 06:17 PM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
I think its one of the "plugins". Mine has a ton of plugins.
I dont remember which ones I got for what purposes.

Lazy_Perfectionist September 17th, 2007 06:40 PM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
Oh well, I've got the GIMP and I know how to use it.

I can even type the above phrase without any second thoughts.

... I once checked a book about GIMP out of the library and got a few strange looks.

It is good to know you can google gimp and the first ten results will all be relevant and work safe.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimp
See the second entry if the slang is unfamilar to you.

Gandalf Parker September 17th, 2007 10:19 PM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
I love the O'Reilly books on deeper internet stuff. As an admin for internet servers its kindof required to have a shelffull even if you dont read them. But I love their "cookbooks" which are great for slightly ADD people like me. Lots of short little answers to common problems.

And I get great looks when its a Linx Cookbook or an AWK Cookbook or Python Cookbook. I was thinking one day that a GIMP Cookbook might be fun to carry around also.

Lingchih September 18th, 2007 11:38 PM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
RGB is a color space (red, green, blue), not a file format. Any 24 bit file format can be in the RGB color space.

Ballbarian September 19th, 2007 01:29 AM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
"Color bitmap image format created by Silicon Graphics (SGI); generic format used for saving RGB color images on SGI workstations; recognized by various image viewing programs."

Extension ".rgb".
Just depends on the context. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Dominions3 supports both rgb & tga image files.

Frostmourne27 September 19th, 2007 02:05 AM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
I assume then, Lingchih is incorrect - rgb _is_ refering to the file extension, isn't it? Not that I can see a reason to not save a map as a TGA, since I usually use GIMP, but...

Gandalf Parker September 19th, 2007 11:55 AM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
Short Answer: They are both correct.

longer Answer:
Back when one-color monitors were going out of style RGB only referred to the "new" color monitors (Red Green Blue). Around the same time, one of the main drawing softwares of the day developed a new format for color.

Side Note:
The reason its RGB and not RBY. In school you learned that the primary colors were Red Blue Yellow. All colors were some blend of those, and all of them together made black and none made white. They called it the color wheel, but should have said the color wheel for solids (reflected light).

What they didnt teach in my day (and definetly should now) is that the color wheel for direct light is Red Green Blue with all mixed being white and none being black. Its becoming more and more important to know the RGB mixes since thats what is involved in monitors, tv, internet viewing, PC software, lasers, and coming up in holograms

There is also another wheel called subtractive which is CMY (Cyan Magenta Yellow). Very important to inks and printers.

Lingchih September 20th, 2007 02:02 AM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
CMYK is the more common reference to the subtractive color space, used by printers. It adds K (Black) to the mix, to add depth and shadows to the color space.

I have no idea why this has any context in the Dominions world, just adding my two cents worth, since I have been a color retoucher for many years.

Panpiper September 20th, 2007 01:06 PM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
Quote:

Gandalf Parker said:
All colors were some blend of those, and all of them together made black and none made white.

Actually, I believe it to be the other way around. All of them together make white and none make black. Sorry to nit pick.

Sombre September 20th, 2007 01:10 PM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
He's talking about mixing paint, not light.

Chuck all the paint together you get black.

Gandalf Parker September 20th, 2007 05:19 PM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
Yes its one of the big differences between the solids wheel and the lumination wheel. No paints is white, all paints is black. No light is black, all lights are white (remember prisms?)

I really think that schools should teach them side by side now. They have equal importance in the present day world IMHO

Panpiper September 20th, 2007 08:06 PM

Re: Converting Common Image files to RGB or TAG Fi
 
Quote:

Sombre said:
He's talking about mixing paint, not light.

Chuck all the paint together you get black.

Doh! That'll teach me not to ignore art when studying physics.


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