The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Greetings,

No matter how much I stare at the indirect bless for Fire (+Attack), I just don't see how it synergizes with the caster, let alone with any Fire spells.

Am I missing something, or is the indirect bless for Fire really that sucktastic?

If so, i'd vote to replace it with something like +Penetration or something similarly thematic for Fire.

Either that, or have more melee ranged Augmentation spells for Fire. Essentially, Fire Augmentation for melee offense and Water Augmentation for melee defense?

Your thoughts?

Re: The Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Fire weapons is unthematic? How so? Fire is one of the better blesses.

Re: The Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

It's almost impossible blessings will be changing this late in the games development. You probably have better odds winning the lottery because a change like you're suggesting might make you happy yet upset other gamers.

Re: The Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

I believe he means indirect magic. The title should be changed.

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Whoops, I do mean the indirect magic http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Y'know, the one that increases Attack for each level in the Fire path of magic.

So, a F3 Mage would have +3 Attack. But how is this useful for the Mage?

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Not all fire mages are old, burned out Wizards.

Some are Red Dragons. Red Dragons want to be sure they hit what they attack because a hit usually results in a kill.

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Oh, you don't mean bless? (deletes post)

You're right, it generally isn't that useful, though there are SCs and the like with fire magic.

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Most of the magic bonuses are not especially useful on most casters (except air, probably), but in some cases they're excellent. Pretenders being the most obvious example. But I am also pleased for example that my Archangels have big boosts to their attack.

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Wouldn't it be a little powerfull ? Fire magic already permits a great mid game, thanks to evocation. Maybe any more advantage would be too much.True that fire mages getting older quicker than others is a BIG disadvantage.

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Arch devils also come to mind, they make great anti-SC SCs because of their naturally high attack values.

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

The bonuses to leadership can actually be quite useful, even if the +attack isn't. Less need to back up your magi with mundane commanders.

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Hmm,

I'll have to test more, but considering the Encumbrance penalty to fatigue when casting spells, I don't think thug/mage heroes are particularly efficient.

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Script a few low level buffs, like ironskin or fireshield (or phoenix power!), and attack. It can be brutal.

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Especially if you're ambidextrous or have four arms.

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Everything is better with four arms!

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Except whips.

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Depends.
I'm sure there are people out there that would disagree.

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Well, you could always carry one wip and three shields, which would be better than one whip and one shield. I think that four slots of any given type is always better than two.

(actually, since you could leave two slots unused, it CANNOT be worse.)

Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh?
 

Sweet, I'll give it a whirl http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Now, about the spell that gives me four arms...