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Cor2 September 27th, 2007 02:28 AM

help beating Eater of gods?
 
First my observation. Eater of god only needs ONE horror mark to attack a god. (I never would have guessed that)

It recently attacked my master lich with 12 in all paths and did some serious damage. If it had not been for Pheonix Pyre he would have died.


If you kill it does it come back? I assume so.

What tactics are effective against it? assuming no magic path restrictions?

Can it be Charmed/Enslaved?

I found drain life to be pretty useful, given that if you fail the roll vs Blood vengence you break even.

sum1lost September 27th, 2007 02:34 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
Blood banishing spells are the way to go.

NTJedi September 27th, 2007 02:37 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 

Use Petrify and use the Ethereal Warriors as bodyguards(preferably ones which are horror-marked).


-- Why are you playing with a pretender who has 12 in all magic paths? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Cor2 September 27th, 2007 03:13 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
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NTJedi said:

-- Why are you playing with a pretender who has 12 in all magic paths? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Its a really big sp game. been going for a while and I have not been nice to the AI.http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif I have been clam hording and I have arcane nexus up. I have to do something with all those gems. Why not wish for magic power 11 times?

really I just am playing for fun, obviously the AI cannot offer challenge at this point, so i am just playing around.

Cor2 September 27th, 2007 03:14 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
Does it come back?

Tuidjy September 27th, 2007 04:26 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
Yes, it comes back.

Cor2 September 27th, 2007 04:56 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
darn.

Folket September 27th, 2007 05:50 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
You could script returning with a couple of astral gems.

Humakty September 27th, 2007 06:45 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
If you crush the faction who summoned him, does he come back ?
(Had a similar pbm with wild hunt playing mid marignon, but WH is dispellable.)

Cor2 September 27th, 2007 07:31 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
Humakty, I am pretty sure its Indy. Eater of Gods takes orders from no one.

Anyway, Does anybody know if I can Enlsave/Charm it?

DigitalSin September 27th, 2007 08:34 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
You can wish for him, but he cant move and I'm not sure if he stops attacking.

Lazy_Perfectionist September 27th, 2007 12:31 PM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
I haven't seen the Eater of Gods yet, but from my experience with Horrors, it may be worth focusing on your defense if you can get it up to 30 or more. Normally not a possibility with a Master Lich, but with 12 in all paths, including water... You're partway there with a plus 12 def.

Evilhomer September 27th, 2007 01:07 PM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
Why risk fighting it ? Folkets suggestion was correct, just script returning (and have 2 astral gems on your lich)

Kristoffer O September 27th, 2007 01:17 PM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
He's not much use in battles then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Just send him forth, he's immortal after all.

Ironhawk September 27th, 2007 02:38 PM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
Returning is fine if your Master Lich doesnt need to leave the capital. But if he's fighting on the front lines than Returning is a bad choice since it will take him a full turn to teleport back to the lines.

Cor2 September 27th, 2007 04:18 PM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
All he is doing right now is forging and wishing, so he not needed on the front right now. I guess i could wish for power a few more times, that would bring up his defence. Butt running does not seem like something an all powerful master lich would do. At least not my pretender, he don't roll like that.

LP thank your lucky stars you have not seen him, hes one bad mother.

If I were building from scratch, I would say high defence plus mage bane would be perfect. Mage bane is not an option, maybe Pertrification.

Right now my pretender is scripted "phyeonix pyre, drain life ,drain life"

Taqwus September 27th, 2007 10:01 PM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
One could cast 'Astral Corruption' and make the horrors everybody's problem. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Autochthon September 27th, 2007 11:07 PM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
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Cor2 said:
Does it come back?

Sure does, just like Herpes.

I'm pretty sure he's not supposed to be beatable. He's the Eater of Gods, defeating him with a God would just be...crazy! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

Frostmourne27 September 28th, 2007 03:37 AM

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Autochthon said:
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Cor2 said:

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I'm pretty sure he's not supposed to be beatable. He's the Eater of Gods, defeating him with a God would just be...crazy! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

Does he actually have anything that makes him any better vs. gods than vs. anything else?

NTJedi September 28th, 2007 11:29 AM

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Evilhomer said:
Why risk fighting it ? Folkets suggestion was correct, just script returning (and have 2 astral gems on your lich)

His lich has 12 or more in earth magic... so I say kill it with the spell Petrify... guaranteed to at least paralyze which will allow those ethereal warriors to kill it which have weapons that do extra damage on magic beings(this includes the horrors).

Ideally I would drop off some of my ethereal warriors in a province with the magic site called 'vale of infinite horrors'. This will eventually horror mark them and with enough markings allow them to become the main target as his bodyguards.

Endoperez September 28th, 2007 01:47 PM

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Frostmourne27 said:
Does he actually have anything that makes him any better vs. gods than vs. anything else?

Not really. But he's quite good at killing powerful targets, and surviving several rounds against powerful melee combatants, and can survive up to to insta-dead spells (thanks to his three forms).

Cor2 September 29th, 2007 12:01 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
Is one of his forms invisible? B/c after I gave him a good wack, he dissapeared, yot my lich kept casting spells at empty space and hitting him.

Endoperez September 29th, 2007 07:24 AM

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Cor2 said:
Is one of his forms invisible? B/c after I gave him a good wack, he dissapeared, yot my lich kept casting spells at empty space and hitting him.

The first two of his forms are Ethereal, i.e. nonmagical attacks have only 25% chance of working. His last form is Truly Ethereal, which means even magical attacks have only a 25% chance of working. So he isn't exactly invisible, more like invincible... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Edi September 29th, 2007 07:30 AM

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Endoperez said:
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Cor2 said:
Is one of his forms invisible? B/c after I gave him a good wack, he dissapeared, yot my lich kept casting spells at empty space and hitting him.

The first two of his forms are Ethereal, i.e. nonmagical attacks have only 25% chance of working. His last form is Truly Ethereal, which means even magical attacks have only a 25% chance of working. So he isn't exactly invisible, more like invincible... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Sorry Endo, but it's only the first form that's ethereal and the last two forms that are truly ethereal.

Endoperez September 29th, 2007 08:06 AM

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Edi said:
Sorry Endo, but it's only the first form that's ethereal and the last two forms that are truly ethereal.

Thanks for the correction. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Oh, well. I can't expect to remember everything correctly now that I've barely got enough time to play the game.

Edi September 29th, 2007 08:14 AM

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I know, I screw up on things myself every now and then. The invisible/invincible line was great. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Valandil September 30th, 2007 03:03 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
If you have enough gems to wish eleven times, why not just monthly power wish? eventually, you will have seven thousand health, three hundred strength, att/def over four hundred, and will be able to smack the four horsemen back into their stables. Then, hit Umor over the head a few times with a sword of doom (I suggest mage bane). Problem solved.

Alderanas October 18th, 2007 01:00 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
lol my god destroyed the eater of gods. My god took only 22 damage out of his 437 health. Poor eater of gods was eaten by my god. lol

Edratman October 18th, 2007 11:01 AM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
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Cor2 said:

Its a really big sp game. been going for a while and I have not been nice to the AI.http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif I have been clam hording and I have arcane nexus up. I have to do something with all those gems. Why not wish for magic power 11 times?

really I just am playing for fun, obviously the AI cannot offer challenge at this point, so i am just playing around.

As an aside, how long does it take you to do a turn? I finally quit playing big maps because I ran out of patience when I had to take care of approx. 50 provinces a turn.

Agema October 18th, 2007 01:02 PM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
Surely you don't have to look after 50 provinces a turn. Most provinces just sit there looking after themselves, especially with the autotaxation turned on. Generally the only ones that require checking are ones with fortifications, where you build troops, ones where there's military action, and occasionally you might want to check them out if there's been some form of event. Maybe every once in a while you have to do a big whip-round with magic site scrying spells...

In SP I do turns quickly because I don't care about mistakes that much. MP turns take me rather longer, most of it is sorting out army commands.

konming October 18th, 2007 01:13 PM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
Another way is to have high enough defense and MR. After all, if he cannot hit you, then it does him no good. That combined with Mage Bane will certainly kill any pesky horrors.

Cor2 October 18th, 2007 04:04 PM

Re: help beating Eater of gods?
 
It takes me about an hour to 1-1/2 hours to play a turn. But I am a fast turn taker. the 45min hosting time is what bothers me.


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