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konming October 10th, 2007 03:17 AM

Shooting incurs no fatigue?
 
Seeing that you can fire arrows all day long without incuring any fatigue, I wonder if this is WAD or just an oversight?

Edi October 10th, 2007 03:31 AM

Re: Shooting incurs no fatigue?
 
WAD, seeing as how all ranged weapons have limited ammo, so they will run out and the units end up in melee if the combat lasts for a long time.

Kamamura October 10th, 2007 09:44 AM

Re: Shooting incurs no fatigue?
 
Shooting a bow is like playing a harp, same movement, not tiring at all :-D

Edi October 10th, 2007 09:48 AM

Re: Shooting incurs no fatigue?
 
It's a mighty pathetic archer that gets overly fatigued before getting all of his twenty arrows off. I do not see this being a problem, but if IW does, they will obviously trample all over me and fix it. The issue is open for discussion, so if people have differing opinions, they are welcome to voice them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

llamabeast October 10th, 2007 10:05 AM

Re: Shooting incurs no fatigue?
 
Yeah, while I'm sure firing a bow is tiring, I'm also sure it can't compare to the exhaustion of melee combat, so approximating it as zero fatigue seems reasonable to me.

Kamamura October 10th, 2007 10:27 AM

Re: Shooting incurs no fatigue?
 
Well, how about casting spells? It should be even less tiring than firing a bow. At least when you watch Harry Potter, he never seems to sweat :-)

lch October 10th, 2007 10:31 AM

Re: Shooting incurs no fatigue?
 
That's because he has godlike reinvigoration, I suppose.

Prayers doesn't make you break a sweat. "Hey big buddy, I could use some divine punishment right here and now". Magics require proper gestures and concentration. Pure willpower. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Dedas October 10th, 2007 11:53 AM

Re: Shooting incurs no fatigue?
 
Well, if you pray in your armor you get tired - hard to do all the kneeling and stuff. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

OmikronWarrior October 10th, 2007 01:05 PM

Re: Shooting incurs no fatigue?
 
Actually, firing bows can be extraordinarily stressful. For example, the English Longbow is estimated to have 150-200 lb. of pressure, meaning firing it is like lifting that much weight with one arm. Archaelogy digs have found archer skeletons with deformed soldiers.

Obviously, these are the extreme examples, but Dominions does have longbowmen, and lesser bows are still going to have a large amount of pressure.

Edi October 10th, 2007 01:19 PM

Re: Shooting incurs no fatigue?
 
Those English longbowmen were trained to the bow from since they were little kids and the kind of damage and deformation we're talking about came about through a lifetime of such stress on the body.

People who are trained as the kind of archers we're talking about here would be able to fire the amount of arrows as specified in Dom3 as bow ammo would not get appreciably tired compared to people swinging swords and bashing each other about in melee, so the 0 fatigue approximation for shooting sounds right to me.

NTJedi October 10th, 2007 01:39 PM

Re: Shooting incurs no fatigue?
 
Quote:

Edi said:
Those English longbowmen were trained to the bow from since they were little kids and the kind of damage and deformation we're talking about came about through a lifetime of such stress on the body.

People who are trained as the kind of archers we're talking about here would be able to fire the amount of arrows as specified in Dom3 as bow ammo would not get appreciably tired compared to people swinging swords and bashing each other about in melee, so the 0 fatigue approximation for shooting sounds right to me.

I would agree... if not zero the fatique should be like one, and the crossbows left at zero. The change would be so small it's not worth the time. I've never seen or heard of anyone feeling even slightly fatiqued after shooting 12 arrows or less.

cleveland October 10th, 2007 08:35 PM

Re: Shooting incurs no fatigue?
 
Perhaps keep firing @ zero, but make melee fatigue really high, owing to their lack of melee training/conditioning.


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