No Independent .map file Request
 

Hey guys.

I've been searching the various forums for days, but I can't find the actual 'text block' to copy/paste into .map files to turn off independents. If someone could get that to me I would be most appreciative.

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

I don't have a script to do this for every map, maybe lch could help you there, but I do have one that goes up quite high.

#setland 1
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#poptype 100

Any higher than that, like 500 province maps or whatever, a script would make sense.

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

Thanks, Sombre. This was indeed what I was looking for. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I do like large maps, so I'll continue poking around for a script. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

I can write a very short C++ program (of poor coding quality http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif) that will take a number as input and will produce a .txt file with just #setland 1 #poptype 100 #setland 2 #poptype 100, with #setland going up to that number, and then you can take that and copy-paste it to your map, I guess.
Would you like me to?
(Though unless you want to compile it yourself [in which case you probably already have the knowledge to program it yourself], it will be windows only)

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

That would work, Agrajag. Nice Avatar BTW. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif However, I tried copy/pasting it into a map I made, and it didn't seem to work. Any suggestions here?

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

Under windows, open a command prompt and do the following:
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>echo @echo #setland %1 &gt; do.bat
echo @echo #poptype 100 &gt;&gt; do.bat
for /l %i in (1,1,100) do do.bat %i &gt;&gt; noindy.map
del do.bat</pre><hr />
Untested, but should work. Change the numbers in the triple accordingly. More info under "for /?".

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

Oh, thanks. That definitely makes sense. The triple says 'from 1 to 100 in an increment of 1', right? (I can sort of 'read' code, but can't really write it.)

'noindy.map' is the name of the .map file, right?

Also, may I suggest this (or something like it) be put into the 'Mod thread', so that others can find it perhaps a bit easier?

Edit: It's not working. I am not sure exactly why. To be precise, the batch file works properly. But when I start a game on the edited map, the independents are still there. Am I doing something wrong?

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

Yes, the triple is (from,step,to) as in: start at "from", add "step" in every step until you reach "to". It will put a list that looks like what Sombre posted into the file noindy.map. You'll have to copy and paste that into the real .map file with a text editor yourself, it's not of any use on its own.

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

Well, it actually will write it directly into the .map file if you name it as such. However, putting the information in is not getting rid of the independents. Is there smoething more I have to do?

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

P.S.: I think that you can put two commands into the same line, so instead of that complicated four-line thing you can probably just use this <font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>for /l %i in (1,1,100) do echo #setland %i #poptype 100 &gt;&gt; noindy.map</pre><hr />
I have no idea if there's something missing, but if there's an #end missing there you could just add it in the same manner.

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

Maybe you're expecting the wrong thing, though. What this is supposed to do is to remove the possibility of recruiting independents on the provinces in the map. This forces the AI to use national units and can make it play a stronger game. What it does not do is remove the indy defenders. You achieve that by setting the strength of independents to zero when you create the game (and only in case this is really possible).

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

No, I'm thinking correctly in that you should not be able to recruit independent commanders on the map. Unfortunately, you still can. I'll try adding #end at the end to see if that changes anything. Thanks for all the help so far. =)

Edit: This is getting frustrating. &gt;&lt; I don't know exactly why it's not working. The only thing I can think of is that there are no CRs or spaces in the .map file except for the pasted portion. AFAIK this normally does not change things, but could it be in this case?

Honestly, I'd like to try this but nothing I seem to do works. &gt;&lt;

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

Attached to this post is an .exe that has been .rared.
When you start it it will open up a console window, and wait for your input.
You will need to insert two numbers, the first one will be the number of lands you need to #setland on (so if you want lands 1-241, you will type in 241), the second number will determine the poptype that will be set for all. (In this case I guess you'll want 100)
The program will create a file called IO.txt that will contain the lines you want.

(I see that you already found a better way of doing it, but since it only took a few seconds to code, I did it anyway http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif)

No spaces in the .map file sounds like it could cause problems, if #land 3 is turned to #land3 maybe it can give the game problems? (I never actually made a map, so I know nothing about those things)

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

Well, let me actually copy/paste what the random map generator makes for a file.

Hm. When I paste it, it comes out in order. Let me just type it. (And yeah, I have word wrap on in Notepad, so I know it's not that.

#neighbor 1 14#neighbor 2 17#neighbor 2 19#etc. etc.

Whereas when I use the file Ich gave me, I get the standard

#setland 1
#poptype 100
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So I don't know if there's something else going on. But I can tell you that it's just not working. &gt;&lt;

Re: No Independent .map file Request
 

Heh. Simple fix for this:

1) Copy *only* the setland/poptype pairs in Sombre's list from #1 to #199 into any standard text/rich text editor.

2) Do it again, into a separate file, so that you now have two lists in two different files, each with setland/poptypes sequenced from 1 to 199.

3) Delete the setland/poptype pairs in that second file from #1 to #99, leaving you with only the ones from setland #100 through to setland #199.

4) Now use the 'Replace' command to search for "setland 1" and replace with "setland 2". Select "Replace All".

5) Copy the new list--now #200 to #299--into the original, 'master' file.

6) Repeat steps 4 and 5 as much as needed, incrimenting the setland # each time as you go.

You should very quickly get into the thousands, if need be.