I enjoy Space Empires because...
 

For the most part, I enjoy Space Empires because...

It's so customizable. It feels like I can create my own space game...something that I've always wanted (wished) I could do.

It's a secret. It's not published by a big company and it's not in every store. There's not millions of players, but a well defined group of people who enjoy playing the game. Just the right amount of people, so that we can still have a direct impact into what goes into the game. I think it's cool.

FOR EXAMPLE:

I live in Toronto with 5 million people. I do not know of anyone else in this forum (or community) who is also from Toronto.

(Suicide Junkie is in Kitchener-Waterloo and there was someone else from Peterborough - but I think that's as close as they get!)



[This message has been edited by capt_spoogy (edited 21 July 2001).]

Re: I enjoy Space Empires because...
 

Yeah, I'm that 'Peterborough' guy http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

I love this game for 3 things: the customization ease(&moddability), the community and PBW. Without these 3 I would probally be back at BOTF or Ultimate Civ.

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I love SE4 as it allows me to play the kind of game I love against the guys I grew up with. While legally Canadian, I haven’t lived there for five years, yet I can still enjoy thrashing (hopefully) the guys I knew as a kid. As we all played MOO and Empire and such games, we all think we are pretty good at them and this is the best way to settle the matter.

(Capt. Spoogy My friends and I are B.C. boys, now spread out over Kamloops, Victoria and Nairobi, Kenya, so we don’t disturb your idea of no other Toronto folks on the forum)

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Here you go a player from Oshawa. And the guy sitting right next to me in the cube is from Scarbrough. P.S. Don't introduce SEIV to people at work and play PBEM games with them. It kills about 1 hour day talking about Last nights turn.

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You're friend's in Scarborough? I'm at Victoria Park and Eglinton...

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Another Canadian "waves the flag"!!!! I've only been on the board for a short while, been playing in a few PBW games...and LOVIN EVERY MINUTE of it!!!

I'm from Brampton, and work @ Toronto City Hall...... http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

good to see some "good old Canadian boys" !! (to quote Don Cherry...)

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First, I'd have to agree with Captn Spoogy's first point. The customizability of the game is great. But I think even more important is the style of the game itself. It really is a STRATEGY game. You have to think about what you are doing in order to win. Most games today are more about hand-eye coordination than strategy even if it says "strategy game" on the box. The Warcraft/Starcraft series comes to mind. SE comes closer to the old cardboard chits & dice type of wargame than anything else I'm aware of in the market today.

Re: I enjoy Space Empires because...
 

I think what I enjoy most is strategic and tactical cliffhangers... against the AI, I'll build the bare minimum defense, composed of ships designed to survive 10:1 odds. One ship each to defend my warppoints, and I spend the rest of my time building sphereworlds in a two or three system empire.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Most games today are more about hand-eye coordination than strategy even if it says "strategy game" on the box. The Warcraft/Starcraft series comes to mind.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yep. I've tried to make Starcraft into more of a strategy game, and its not too bad now.
Basically, I took some levels, and ripped out 85% of the minerals from the map. Then, I set it so that the gas you collect slowly turns into minerals.
Your army buildup happens much slower, and the individuals become more important.
Losing one siege tank, for example could cost you a minute or two of refining at one gas vent.
Territory also plays an important role; you must take control of the areas you conquer, building refineries in order to boost your economy.
Even two humans against the AI, these games can take hours, and you get a sense of accomplishment from building an empire.


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I enjoy the game because I can loose my self in it for hours alowing me to forget about the troubles of the the real world and go conquering the galaxy. To emerse my self in creating new ship sets, and posting on this forum.

Ilike the stratigy, the tactics, game play, role play, and much more that SEIV has to offer.

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But even with the changes you describe, it takes a lot of fast and furious mouse clicking to play either Warcraft or Starcraft. I much prefer a turn-based game where I get to think about what I need to do. I'd like to see a lot of the "spreadsheet in space" features of SE III return, in fact! http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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To capt_spoogy. I think he lives on Kennedy somewhere. Just know he goes against the traffic ( and in the process of moving ).

The reason I like SEIV. One game ( about 100 turns into the game) a fellow PBEM decided to sneak attack me by sending in a fleet of 10 minelayers, 20 battleships and 6 carriers all cloaked at level 3. For scanners I had.... nothing. The only reason I knew he was their was because the player did not put a cloak on his repair destroyer. So here I am looking at the screen seeing the triange of despair ( I had not even met anyone yet ). Thinking if he has repair ships here what is he repairing? So I start to research scanner level 1 ( yep only 6 levels of research to go before I can detect ecm level 4 ) Next turn I lose about 12 ships to mines, and 4 planets in one system and I start building sweepers.
So now I get to see what I am up against (and no sweepers on the enemy ships!!!) So I built mines on every planet and send a warp closer to close off the warp point to his system. Oh yea level 2 scanners.

Next turn About half my planets build mines. I lose 6 more planets. ( one system cleaned out ) Warp point to system closed off and a message of war being declared on me.

Next turn level 3 scanners and the rest of my planets have mines on them. The enemy losses 4 ships to mines. I send a message stating that I can afford to lose a planet for 4 ships. Only 2 turns to level 4 scanners.

Next turn nothing happens.

Next turn the enemy attacks another planet with two moons. 4 more ships gone.
I close of the warp point for that sytem area limiting the access to about 6 systems.

3 turns to level 5 scanners.

nothing happens but it was the longest weekend of my life. a turn a day in these moments is distracting. ( nothing like going to a party and figuring out if you want the tac scanners level 3 on escort ships or on sat's one per system. ( yep the tape between the glasses just got a little thicker)) and the sweepers arive ( I clean out all the mines in my system) Next turn my new baby dreads start pumping out about 50 of them.

Ahh 4 turns to level 6 scanners.

level 6 scanners have arrived. now to build the sat's

Next turn I release the sat's and attack his fleet's with figters and dreads. 2 turns later no more ships in my area.

Now for the offence. I like to name my ships like this DF-1-Drea-1 -0001 ( Direct Fire 1 weapon dreadnaught Version 1 with comuter build number at the end)
So I take ships 40 to 60 and re number them as 140 to 160.

I then attack his systems with all my fleet. The enemy natually assumes that I have 160 ships ( half on attack and half on defence )

The outcome. Don't know yet. It is only 5 turns into the attack. I held back the point defence ships so the enemy will build missle ships. A small price to pay in ships while I get the next fleets of missle , armour and pd ships going.

The fun thing was talking about it at work for the 3 weeks of these turns.

Out of all my gaming experiences that was the most intense moments... I figured I was dead ( spent the whole game working on infa sturcture )...................

Re: I enjoy Space Empires because...
 

I like SE4 for its depth and flexibility.

If I want to play a horde of ravaging scientists (the usual militarist technology-for-war hive Civ II strategy, or especially the self-sufficient Creative/Repulsive combo in MOO2), I can.

If I want to play a shadowy spymaster race with a sneakiness obsession, that can be done too.

Likewise, it's possible -- albeit quite (realistically, one suspects...) frustrating -- to try to be a benevolent, honorable race striving for peace.

Peace or war? Assimilation or genocide? "Special" tech, or merely specialists in the normal ones? The standard SE4 universe, or a heavily modded one -- and if modded, which one? Plenty of choices...

And it works well when each turn seems to bring *some* progress... but little enough to leave you wanting more (the "just one more turn" phenom; just like in CM:BO, where 60th-second cliffhangers seem incredibly common). It also definitely helps that the developer and publisher provide darn good support for their product.

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I haven't replied to this before because I couldn't summarize what I like. I agree with everybody's reasons. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

I think my favorite part is the variety. In my oldest solo game, my Serene Scientists, the Tictsin, have Partnerships with three races, and have spread all over the map while holding their own in a protracted war with the Xi-Chung. In my first PBW game, my Honorable Warriors, the Rrurrr, fight on to certain death rather than surrender to a technologically superior alliance. (Hi, Askan & Spoo) http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif In my other PBW game, my Psychotic Engineers, the Mi-Go, have cultivated numerous alliances as they prepare for their next wave of expansion.

I enjoy writing in-character diplomacy with human players, too. The Rrurrr often speak of Honor. the Mi-Go have buzzing rrazpy whizperring voicez...they do not uze capital letterrz...prroperr namez excepted...no conjunctionz...theirr only punctuation iz the ellipziz... http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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I enjoy SE4 because Im in command, I rule the empire. I have always wanted to conquer the universe, and now I can. I am the ultimate potentiate, the ultrapowerful leader. I am in command.
Plus the fact that the game is customizable is fun too.
Strategy and tactics are my favorite parts though.

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I love SEIV because it exercises my brain. I also love that it's so customizable and addictive that it has created a group of modders who can take the game to places that MM would not be able to go alone.

Quikngruvn

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