Rain?
 

I'm wondering why my Rain Priests won't cast Rain. I'm playing EA Mictlan and fighting Abysia in a little SP game. 3 times now, I have sent different Rain Priests with my army, specifically to cast Rain and cool off those Abysians. There were several dozen heat producing Abysia troops in each battle (over 100 of them in one battle), so the mages had to see the importance of casting it. But they never would. They usually summoned a lesser water elemental instead.

They are level 2 water mages. The spell is level two. And I always equip them with at least two water gems (spell only needs one). They are scripted only to cast Rain. What am I missing?

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if they had it scripted i cant see why. i did cast it against them.

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I remember someone mentioning a bug with rain. It might have had something to do with scripting. Have a look in the bug thread just in case this is a known issue.

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Did you script it on turn 1?

I find that the computer often casts a self-buff on turn 1, but on turn 2 will actually cast what you scripted.

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Is it already raining?

The 'Rain' spell will not be cast if there is already natural rain in the battle. I tested this, it took 10 battles to finally get weather where it was already raining. The caster cast Rain every battle, except in the battle where there was natural rain to begin with.

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and the natural rain extinguish fire arrows too ?

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Interesting. I did not know that. I will try scripting Rain on turn 2.

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1.) If the Rain is cast on turn 2, that's a problem if you scripted it on turn 1.

2.) Do you have to watch for rain falling to check if it is raining on the battlefield or is there another way to find out?

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A battlefield enchantment symbol will appear in the top-right corner once rain is cast.

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If it's already naturally raining, there will be no symbol. But the rain graphics are pretty obvious, even at graphics level 1.

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I've cast Rain twice in recent battles. The first time it worked fine, but the second time it went off properly but ended part way through the battle. I've never seen a BFE end during a battle before and don't know what to make of it.

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Hate to ask the obvious, but are you sure the caster didn't get killed?

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You guys are gonna make me go back into that game and replicate it, aren't you? I think I remember which one it was (I quit playing it cause Abysia was killing me). I'll do it tonite... might even post a game save.

No, it wasn't raining naturally in any of the battles. And the casters always survived (they were the first ones to run).

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Just took a look at the last turn again. Turns out it was raining already in one battle (never noticed the little raindrops before). Too bad natural rain doesn't seem to dampen Abysians.

In the other battle where it failed, I had Abysia outnumbered 3-1, so maybe the mage thought it wasn't worth wasting the gems. It's definitely a frustrating spell to try and use though.

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Both the Rain spell and natural rain do not appear to change the statistics of heat-aura units when they are viewed in battle with right-click.

However, I did do a test where I had a bunch of units chase down some burning ones with Heat(3) aura in natural rain. The units were not affected at all when they entered the clouds of smoke. Are you sure that in the rainy battle the Abysians didn't just whack you to death with their powerful attacks?

I think as far as Heat auras are concerned, the Rain spell and natural rain spells have the same effect, which is -3 to the aura. Probably this applies to flight and fire magic fatigue too.

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I noticed this too D: I think that KO said it effects the heat anyways, just not on the unit.

Jazzepi

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Natural rain doubles the fatigue cost for battle fire magic too, and is expected to have the rest of the effects.
I wonder what´s the chancce for raining. Is it tied to Heat or cold scale?

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No, I dont believe this is true. The AI will always attempt to follow its script if it can. The situation K was seeing was likely a case of no spell targets being in range or something to that effect

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i've found that the computer will often ignore my orders to cast astral shield. not for any other buffs; just astral shield. it seems to love casting it. possibly a likes to cast it value in the ai set too high so it overrides set choise too often.