KG Griffin the Alt History Campaign Continues
 

Good day,
As a prelude to restarting this campaign AAR, I'm as requested attaching the OOB files for the countries I've amended for this Alternate History. Germany, UK US and Canada. Bear in mind the graphics in the case of some new creations won't be in your files.

In general the Germans have the largest amount of changes to many different aspects of the OOB. The US has some new stuff plus a lot of tanks etc coming on line earlier than historical. The Canuks bought T34 etc plans from Russia before the Counter-Revolution, upgraded and improved as the RAM tanks. Other changes abound. The UK has taken a combination route of changes etc from the US and Canada, plus some of their own developments. As well there is a weapon system/unit development/concept shared by all three Allied Nations based on the Paladin Tank design (thanks to RecruitMonty) never thought at first I could find a role or reason for this one but I did.

***Warning ensure you back up your OOB files before overwritng with these.****

There is more the follow.

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Actually, don't even think of overwriting your oobs, since we already include the OOB swapper utility to make handling alternate OOB sets easier. With the plus point, of being able to restore to stock OOBS as and when required.

Game Guide -> Game Installation -> Manage OOB Sets.

(Of course, you already knew this, as all users will actually have read the Game Installation section of the GG on installing the game ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)

Cheers
Andy

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Thanks Andy for the reminder/heads up. I'm so used to the old way of moving stuff around. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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War Diary, SSKG Griffin 12 Oct 1945, 1200hrs

KG Griffin has been in Defensive Positions west of El Arish on the Coastal Highway heading into Eqypt. We've spent the time improving our defenses.

The Hubz Group which just came in this morning claims to have seen a large dust cloud along the coast some 30km west of us. This does seem odd as intelligence had our enemies in retreat at best moving into defensive positions in Eqypt and trying to hold the Suez Canal. Well if they have some fight left in them, We'll smack it out of them. My boys can't wait to blood their new panzers and other weapons.

Besides the extra Hubz Group I have a 17cm Btty and 7.5cm Btty on call. I'm told an Arab runner, has confirmed an Allied force is making it's way up the Coastal Hwy. he claims they are dragging large boats with them. Funny I didn't really think these desert folk were given to drink.

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http://www.militaryimages.net/ims/pic/20lsh9P/134.jpg

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(Of course, you already knew this, as all users will actually have read the Game Installation section of the GG on installing the game ... )

Of course we knew this Mobhack. But I am reading it again just to make sure I understood it correctly! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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Once again I am blown away by your hard work PanzerBob. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif
I can hardly wait to see what happen's next.

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War Diary, Continued Battle of El Arish

Despite my belief that the Force we were about to stop was nothing more than a recce in force, early in the afternoon the initial contact proved this wrong. Shortly after 1300hrs a Panther in Casino Kp on the high ground in out left flank reported firing on a truck with a boat and taking it out at several kms out. This certainly confirmed what our Arab friend reported and for the moment had us perplexed. Soon several more what turned out to be barge carriers were laid to waste plus some scout vehicles on the Coastal Hwy. This coincided with a sparse barrage of no effect.

I ordered the two Hubz Gps out to see just what was coming against us. My Gp went up the coastline and the “guests” went up over my left flank. They began reporting in that a force of some size was heading towards El Arish and they had barges!! The enemy put in a smoke screen and more ineffective HE. Our boys in Casino Kp were still knocking out barges. The Hubz moved slowly to take positions flanking the enemy behind the smoke screen, they now reported that the main body was moving along the HWY and a smaller force of mostly infantry coming up the hill, Most of the enemy’s panzers were with the main Hwy force, and appeared to be largely TD’s. My read on this attack now was they didn’t expect us here in El Arish. Later POW’s bore this thought out. This was a Canadian plan to launch an attack from the sea further north basing from El Arish. Also to the surprise of entire Mid-Eastern German Forces and Panzer Army Templar, the Italian and Aussie Forces had been relieved by Canadian and US Forces, the British remained.

Both Hubz Gps asked for permission to engage the enemy and I gave orders to fire at will with self-preservation job one. They rose to engagement altitude let loose hitting mostly infantry concentrations the start with. My hill posn saw an infantry assault (unsupported by panzers) stagger under the weight of fire from the air and from the Pz Gren from Boxer Kp and the Panther’s of Casino Kp. This soon joined by Arty fires. The Jaguar’s of Deckrude Kp started engaging targets as they rose out of smoke; Adler Kp was last to join the fray. Some of my intermittent mine fields also were bearing fruit as well.

We were hit with an airstrike as well; but it was largely again ineffective. However, for the first time I know of several fighters attempted to engage my Hubz over the water.

Initial contact with the enemy seemed to have crippled their plan, but they seem bent on probing forward with infantry. Boxer Kp opted to move their Rommel’s up to add to the HE storm on the hillside.

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Attached are some screen shots of the map I created of El Arish. Of Note- having the Med on the North 1/5 of the Map caused the Canuks to deploy barrages.

http://www.militaryimages.net/ims/pic/20lsh9P/136.jpg
http://www.militaryimages.net/ims/pic/20lsh9P/137.jpg
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Great stuff PanzerBob. Fighters against your Hubz? That whould be something to see! By the looks of it you have the situation in hand.
What kind of damage reports do you have?

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Causality Report
To- 15 SS Panzer Div
Fr- swSSKG Griffin

As of 1400hrs our unit has taken only light effects from the Enemies attack on our Posn. Despite a heavy CAS by rockets, napalm and cannon fire, only one Panther received damage (repairable) and is still dug in and fighting. As well the CAS caused some minor reduction in troop strength in the hit areas. Well-entrenched positions are being credited in preventing success in these airstrikes. These positions are keeping damage from arty and small arms to a minimum as well.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gifObersturmbannführer PanzerBob [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Lightning.gif[/img][img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Lightning.gif[/img]

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Hey Bob, can we get some close ups of your units please. I would like to see what the players are bringing to the table.

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War Diary, Battle of El Arish Over

The Canadian force finally gave up their advance and withdrew. Several more CAS Airstrikes occured before the cessation of the engagement. These caused more damage which amounted to 57 wounded, a Panther and a Rommel destroyed, well as some minor damage.

Div and even AG HQ are pleased.

I received a personal BefhelsRommel. C Kp began to receive the Cheetahs promised, with the delivery of two, which replaced their HQ units. D Kp replaced it's AAA with the new Stahlwind. The visiting Hubz Gp has been seconded to our KG, giving us an attached Sqdrn of Angriff Hubz. Our Arty Bn's Ammo Carriers finally showed up as well.

As for future Ops, a sweep to SUEZ Canal is in the works, and within 3 days we will be moving out to our pre-assault positions.

Obersturmbannführer PanzerBob http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gif [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Lightning.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Lightning.gif[/img]

See attached imagery todays Parade.

SSKG Griffin on Parade
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C & D Kps
http://www.militaryimages.net/ims/pic/20lsh9P/147.jpg
A & B Kps
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SITREP Fr 15th Pz Div

17 Oct 1945

Allied mechanized forces have been noted moving in some force out of the Suez area into the Sinai. This appears to be an attempt dwarf our assault on the canal. Unit in the AG vanguard are to close and engage these forces and eliminate the risk of mobile forces marauding around our pre-attack laager areas.


Likely KG assault sector at ISMAILIA

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Adendum to above post

Attached KG Griffin's Battle of the EL GUARIR Xroads Map.

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You know you can up-date those Tiger III icons of yours and Oragus has produced a shed load of Panthers which would look very good in there too. His Panther Fs and IIs are very good indeed. What year have you reached?

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Give 'em Hell PanzerBob!

The map's, your sitrep's and everything else is way above par. I can smell the fumes and choke on the dust. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I'm like a kid in a candy store with your AAR's. I just can't get enough!

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I have all the latest updates and new products and will incorparate them into my game once this campaign plays out.

Also there are other panzers coming down the AH pipe, in this timeline.

My end result is to have all the elements produced and playtested to create an alternate history campaign. I figure after a couple campaigns using serveral ideas I have, (one of which I'm campaigning now) I'll have all the equipment, units, maps and storylines ready to cobble together this campaign. Of course, this will not occur overnight, and the next upgrade in in the works. I'm committed to this, I want to give something back to the game.

That being said I'm also open to advice, especially if something seems really out of wack. (Bear in mind this is a What If.) I've already used ideas imparted to me and of course last and not least the ICON Art to bring to life those beasties which only crawled the battlefield in the minds of inventors.

PanzerBob

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Next War Diary entry is coming.

Another FYI I'm using real 1:250,000 maps to create my stories and maps to battle on. Most are from the 1950's as I couldn't find suitable maps from the 40's with the coverage feature details I was looking for, in order to create winSPWWII maps.

Panzer Bob

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Oh boy! A PanzerBob AH campaign. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif I'll be waiting in the candy store for that! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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I have some suggestions. The APCs you are using at the moment are using NATO camo schemes. They look an awful lot like Marder Is. I have re-designed the Bueffel Spz. I will append it here for you to look at. I also re-designed the Spz. 252s (also be appended here). If you want to get APCs for the 50s then the HS30 is your safest bet. I lengthened mine and made them more uniform. There is now a standard HS30 (1950 introduction with an AAMG) the heavier HS30 (with 20mm Gun) and a Gebirgjaeger variant which is similar to the other two but slightly bulkier (with a plow and a series of Infanterie Geschutzs mounted in a turret). (support and recon models exist as well). The benefit of using those is they look like something out of the 50s and they come in desert and winter schemes.

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Well nice work, are you going to do a Cam'd version of the Buffalo. It would fit well with an idea of mine. I like the options you provided for the 252. Your eye is good my Rommels were early Marder I's.

Again Excellent stuff, Bravo Zulu http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

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Camo on the Buffalo. I might very well do a camo version. I am thinking of making a winter and desert icon too. Check out my post. I changed some things again. This time the Heavy tanks are pretty much finalised. Look in the first and last post. That is all the new stuff.

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Are you refering to the Xmas Present or is there more...drooling!!

Cheers

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War Diary, SSKG Griffin 18 Oct 1945,

Our road move to the assembly area has been a slow but steady trek. The thing, which struck us most, was we were now really in a desert, the hellish heat and sand, sand in everything. We had no real idea except some of our DAK veterans what a difference being off the coast would make. Our Arab guides were most helpful and changes in our uniforms, routines and pace have made this bearable. My main concern has been keeping my men and machine in top form, as we know the enemy lurks across these burning sands.

I’ve managed to get attached 4 Recce Gps which are leading are advance and I’m told I have 2 Bn of 17 cm on call should we have to tangle with one of these Allied Probes. This seems likely, as my Recce Hubz I sent out has spotted a large amount of activity at sundown before we stopped for our rest period. They can only be bent on our assembly area in the EL Guarir. The morning sun shall see the chaos of battle once again, for this ancient land I wonder how many times this has been so. We shall move off at midnight and hope to catch our foe of guard.

Obersturmbannführer PanzerBob

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Recon: Worth twice it's weight in gold! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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War Diary, SSKG Griffin 19 Oct 1945,

First light, I knew they were out there, my two Hubz Gps had reported back and engaged enemy Recce Elements to the north and to the south of the day’s objectives. My main concern now was to get my KG turned into the enemies face before we got hit in our flank. Coming down from the north made this no easy task, as I need to do this without losing my KG’s punch.

Two actions I ordered bought time, I had ordered my Hubz to keep some distance but to harass their lead elements when possible. This had the effect of slowing them down and a bonus of getting HE harassing fire into their ranks as well. Two Hubz had expended their entire heavy ordinance in this phase and had to land to rearm. In concert with this all my forward Recce had been ordered at speed to occupy our objective areas and hold until relieved. Boxer Kp with elements of Casino and Deckrüde Kps were sent towards our north most targets. Adler Kp with the remainder moved along the roads to occupy the crossroads and the road leading west. All units were under orders to engage targets even at long range, again, to slow the enemy’s advance.

Splitting my Panzers as such has paid off as my Jaguars had some successes out to 3kms in the clear morning desert air making it possible to see out to 5kms. As morning sun quickly took its place in the sky the western road objective was taken but was under fire. The CO of Casino Kp figured 10 more minutes before he would arrive to help out. At roughly the same time the CO of Adler Kp reported in that the north most objectives were being overrun by our units. Enemy reaction there had been mostly knocked out leaving some weak resistance. I was assured that within the hour those objectives would be secured.

Several Jabo’s made rocket and cannon attacks on SS Artillerie Abt Griffin, which was sited in the Hills over looking the crossroads. One Hummel was damaged and an Ammo Halftrack was destroyed, I hoped my Hubz rearmed before another likely attack came. Within 30 or so minutes, the enemy had taken scattered KO’d vehicles across my area of concern, plus it appeared we had eliminated all armoured support in the north of the battle area.


Obersturmbannführer PanzerBob

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There is indeed more. The first and last posts contain the new files. The first has a whole load of tank destroyers and the HS30s the last one has the improved (there were some colour issues) Heavy tank files and some other goodies. Trust me, these are new.

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You know now I'm a little muddled, where did you post these? Or can you do so here. I'm pretty sure I DO NOT have these. Thanks RM.

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I will link them here:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...?Number=513673

and

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...?Number=578341

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RM

I only had a few of these, and certainly no Helo's.

I'm floored, like a kid in a candy store, I've gone from zero choices to I don't know were to start. I've got some work ahead, but it will look so good when trundling around the battlefield. Your armour is grand, and the air choices helos included give me much room to play with. I'm glad to see you and me are like minded when it comes to main guns on these beasts, I never thought a secondary main gun was useful much less practical...... I'm tempted to go back to work on units and restart my campaign, but the Buffalo is still in progress so I'll wait.. Many Many thanks for the hours you've obviously put into these gems.

Bravo Zulu to you my friend.

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Thank you. It is always nice when someone finds a use for something I have made.

The stuff here, I hasten to add, is not all WWII and 50s era. Most of the jets and so on are, minus the VTOL, although the two early designs (VJ 101 C) were 50s prototypes. But the Helicopters, well those are mostly 60s, 70s and 80s designs I am afraid. At a push the Do. 205 Could be used as a post WWII helicopter. But only at a push.

Armour wise you should not have ay problems. You have two E-100s, one with a 128mm gun the other with the 150mm gun and the E-90 (Kaisertiger - you are free to change the name, I made it up) as well as two lighter Tiger IIIs which, I thought, might serve as Tiger II Ds. They are up armoured and reconfigured Tiger IIs anyway. In my OOB they serve, first as interim heavy tanks, until the E-90 is finished, and then as MBTs alongside the Panther IIs until the Leopards come along (65 or something like that).

As for APCs, the HS30s and SPz 252s make a nice addition to any Kampfgruppe, especially now that they have been improved (HS30s are bigger and the SPz. 252 looks nicer than it did before) Both weapon systems provide their own support variants so at least you will have uniformity in the Kampfgruppe with whichever you pick. I have the 252s as precursors to the HS30 L/HS30 S models which kick in in the 50s. The 252s are not retired until 1958, I think.

I am thinking of making some new icons for a light recon tank (the Leopard was its name apparently - it was based off of the Hetzer Chasis) and an E-100 Schützenpanzer variant. Obscene as it may sound, that is just what some genius had in mind for them. I can't think of a better vehicle in which to stick troops in. Very safe. I need to look at some more schematics first in order to figure out where the engine will go. As you are working in a more combat orientated time line I should imagine you might like the Büffels to be equipped with some ATGM type equipment for support work. I can do that too. Infact I will do it now.

Here they are: Camo variant (x2 turret and hull) and grey variant (turret only) with the added ATGM. Do use the Grey Icons too. They look much better, in my opinion, that way.

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Here is that Recon Tank I was telling you about. Felgrau, desert and Camo as standard.

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RM

Thanks again, I'll DL later today as I'm at work now and this rig won't let me open stuff.

I think I'll start work on my amended OOB anyway, but complete this campaign as is. I may have some ideas to bounce off you later. How much trouble would it be to add two rocket pods to each side of the Fa 223 and or mod it somewhat to reflect later purpose built Attack Helo.

I'll be back later today.

Bob Out

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Here is the Drache (with rocket pod and HMG) and two Flettners, one with x2 LMGs the other without. The Flettner makes a nice recon. Hubschrauber.

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Good day RM

The Camo Bueffel & the Spaehpanzer Leopard are excellent. Me ol'noggin' is reelin' with all the possibities I have now.

Thank in adavnace for the Drache and the Flettners, but you forgot the attachments.

Cheers

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Good day, RM

The Drache and the two Flettners are very nice and have places in my twisted vision of a time never seen. I'm hoping this coming weekend to start in earnest on my amended OOB's.

Again I can't thank you enough along with others for your excellent work.

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Continued from War Diary, SSKG Griffin 19 Oct 1945,

The day’s events played out almost as anticipated and with minimal casualties. The northern objectives were held with little effort against the remaining infantry. As a result the Jaguars committed there were able to swing south and eliminate an attempt to reinforce with several platoons of Firefly’s. The western main road was taken and held at the cost of one Cheetah. one Panther (Recce) and a Rommel plus some of my boys were caught in several half-hearted barrages. The rest of the enemies attacking armour (Mostly Firefly’s) were caught at long range as they tried to manoeuvre on to the road from the south. This turned out to be the Canadians major effort here. Its destruction ended this engagement.

Of note on this day, we experimented with combat rearming of the Hubz; two aircraft were successful and returned on station after about 25 minutes. They were ready as the battle ended but this may prove useful in longer engagements or in a interdiction role. One other Hubz suffered minor damage from ground fire.

The Canadians seemed to have adopted the 17pdr gun now, as it’s main gun on all armour. As well a tank with 4 x 20mm guns was fielded, two were knocked out and at this time are being deployed to the rear and not with the main attacking body where they may have given my Hubz crews a hard time.

Making the KG for the attack on the Suez Canal was now our focus. Our orders had us hitting the Suez north of ISMAILIA with capturing two bridges, a pontoon (difficult) and a rail bridge as the primary objectives. The attack at this time was supposed to be in 3 days. Attached are the initial plans, however the final plan would hinge on what our recce flights and Special Forces bring back on the defences there.


Obersturmbannführer PanzerBob

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Here's the close up map with inital concept of operations for this attack.

Obersturmbannführer PanzerBob

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I tinkered a little with the turrets on some of my tanks, designed a Tiger III F (105mm gun mounted in a bulkier Tiger II B turret on an E-90/100 hull) and I designed a new Bergetiger III.

Get them from here: http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...?Number=578341

Yes they are new, before you ask.

Posted here, for your use as Mobile Arty. Suppt. is the PzHaubitze Loewe (170mm). Mounted on the E-100 chasis and available in camo and desert schemes. At last some really big and manoueverable guns for you to play with.

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The Tiger III and especially SPG Loewe PzHaubitze are great, I'm hoping real life doesn't impede on my work on the my new OOB this weekend. Real life has been interfering with my hobbies all this week, DOH!!

Thanks Again.

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KG Griffin War Diary, 03 Nov 1945

Warfare being what it is, my three day deadline for the Suez Operation came and went. Allied counter-attacks north of our position, were more successful than planned for and the plan was delayed by the Allied attacks plus several sand storms.

This delay gave us the advantages of getting more exact intelligence on the defences on the canal and wearing down of enemy resources. This meant some change of tactics in the upcoming attack. With the delays We were able to preposition our start positions and rethink how to secure those two objectives.

The plan was now changed to have my quickest units formed into Fast Attack Group to hit the pontoon bridge before it could taken out or blown up. The other group my Heavy Attack Group would have the rail road bridge objective. Each group had one of our Hubz Gps and Div Recce units assigned to them, plus 8 barges and a 17cm Bn and 122mm Bn assigned in support.

Intelligence had the enemy in a wide zone around the Suez Canal. Aside from old defensive works the British Forces arrayed ahead of us appear to have adopted a mobile defensive posture.

Again an early morning assault was in order with wear and tear on my men and the machines war being a concern in the heat of the Sinai Desert.

We opened the operation with a combined smoke and HE barrage. Divsional Recce raced forward and within minutes of crossing into the Zone, and made initial contacts with Tommy tanks and infantry in positions as shown on the Map Graphic. Besides fire being reported from several Comets, new tanks were spotted and likely had taken out our first casualities, 2x armoured cars and a Panther G.

See attached Battle Graphic

Obersturmbannführer PanzerBob

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Plans are made to be broken. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

It sound's like they were ready for your attack. Can't wait to see what you did to them.

Keep up the great work PanzerBob!

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Continued -- KG Griffin War Diary, 03 Nov 1945

Short entry, as our attack had run into some problems especially on the Left Flank with the Fast Attack Group. As misfortune would have it we discovered a new British Tank, which turned out to be the Centurion. This Heavy Tank was fielding a 20pdr Gun and showed us in short order; about 20-25mins what it could do to Panther and Cheetah frontal armour. Only 4 of them at this point were ID’d and accounted for 9 to 10 panzers before being neutralized with combined Panzer, Arty and Hubz strikes. Most of the attached Pz Gen moved to the Suez Berm during this savage exchange.

See Map-Left Flank
http://www.militaryimages.net/ims/pic/20lsh9P/214.jpg

Heavy Attack Group progress at the same time was mostly to schedule, although 3 Jaguars were out, 2 destroyed & 1 had a track taken out by infantry. A 6pdr lucky strike and a Comet shot to the side were to blame. This attack was still more or less on track. 3 Jaguars would be detached to assist on the Left Flank.

See Map-Right Flank
http://www.militaryimages.net/ims/pic/20lsh9P/215.jpg

The actual bridge assaults were about to commence. The enemy still had an unknown amount of Comets on the Western side of the Suez Canal.


Obersturmbannführer PanzerBob

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Woops. Looks like you ran into some heavy enemy activity in the south. Sorry to hear it. You should ask the OKW to replace your Panthers with sturdier MBTs.

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Thanks for Condolences, I've been foiled yet again, the freakin' AI decided more Centurions were a good idea. It was a slaughter of epic dimensions.

My Panther/Cheetah Kp died taking out the first 4 Centurions, and the Pz Gren died under Comets and Infantry trying to secure a bridgehead at the pontoon bridge.

The Jaguar Kp ran into a nasty surprise on the Railbridge when more (4) Centurions laid to waste my deadly beauties. I then ordered a withdrawal at that point.

For the price of 11 Comets and 6 Centurions, etc the British stopped me cold, 4 Panther G's, 8 Panther F's, 4 Cheetah's, and 8 Jaguars plus many others was the butchers bill.

I figure, my biggest mistake was lack of use of my Hubz to recce the area, overzealous use of smoke, and too much speed trying to reach the objectives and even the trying to take both objectives at once. Of course the Centurions were a surprise not even thought of.

Back to the drawing board literally, time to redo my Alt History German OOB, and then try again.

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Need any help on Armour ratings etc? I can give you some.

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Yes RM, Thanks for the offer, that would take some of the rule of thumbness out of the way I do it presently. I have now thanks to the fine artists a large collection of icons to use for a bevy of What If Panzers etc. I'm creating POD technical timeline at the momment and will post it for imput, likely in the OOB section. My plan is to create the What If OOB and have easily portable shp files to go long with the OOB so once I develop the camppaign or others want to try my stuff out, it will be easy to do so.

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Yeah, that life stuff can really get in the way of our gaming stuff. I my self have had very limited time on my computer in the past month and a half.

Do you think my pet Tiger's whould have done you any good in your last fight? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Keep up the great AAR's.

Re: KG Griffin the Alt History Campaign Continues
 

Yeah I hate when real time interferes with my gaming.

You Pet Tiger may have helped, but I really did myself in with the use of smoke and speed, instead of using the long-range capabilities of my Panzerwaffe. I certainly would have still lost Panzers but not the slaughter that did ensue.

Next AAR will hopefully be my last test before I put all this together as a campaign. Now to get a few uninterrupted days to cobble together my new OOB's.