Dom3 Item Forging Reference Project - Updated Feb 18th
 

I've put together a way to quickly determine which items a mage can forge based on his magic paths.

--> Online version HERE! <--
--> Included in Snoddasmannen's searchable database HERE! <-- ***

Or...
Excel version here!
Open Office version here!
CSV version here!
PDF version here!
...but be sure to re-download occasionally to stay current!

***Snoddasmannen has graciously uploaded the Vanilla Forging Reference to his online searchable database!

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Currently available Forging References:
Vanilla
CBM 1.3
CBM 1.4

I'd very much like this to become a "repository" of mod-specific forging references. If you're a modder and would like to create your own, I'll be happy to give you editing privileges. You'll need a (free) gmail account. Just PM me your gmail address.

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The "Single Path" pages look like this:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4...nglefd4.th.jpghttp://img146.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif
Under each of the 8 magic paths, all the "single path" items are listed, grouped by the magic-level needed to forge them, and color-coded to indicate the needed Construction level (blue = Const0...red = Const8). Items that boost magic paths are italicized.

The "Dual Path" pages look like this:
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1157/dualhb1.th.jpg
It's a consolidated matrix that groups all similar "dual path" items together, includes the path requirements, and follows the same color convention as before.

It answers the following questions very easily:
1) What items can I forge at Construction level X?
2) What can *insert name of newly encountered mage* forge?
3) If I empower/boost *insert name of mage*, what new items will be available?

All the data was mined from the Dom3 DB, produced by Edi.

Enjoy.
cleveland

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EDIT1 (1/27/08, 6pm):
-Uploaded file to 2shared

EDIT2 (1/28/08, 9am):
-Version 2008.01.28 posted (only minor revisions, though)
--2008.01.28 changelog
---"Armor of Twisting Thorns" properly italicized
---Credit for Dom3 DB taken from Ed, given to Edi
---Dual-Path FR now opens in proper orientation
-Removed redundant link to 2shared hosted file

EDIT3 (2/1/08, 3pm):
-Version 2008.02.01 posted (again, only very minor revisions)
--2008.02.01 changelog
---"Blood Stone" properly italicized
---"Skull of Fire" properly italicized

EDIT4 (2/16/08, 11am):
-Forging reference for Conceptual Balance Mod 1.21 now included
-No changes to the vanilla forging reference

EDIT5 (8/7/08, 3pm):
-Online version officially posted
-Outsiders invited to collaborate
-Changed title to more pretentious "project"

EDIT6 (8/7/08, 6pm)
-CSV version made available - now you can open it in your own spreadsheet!
-PDF version made available - if that's your thing!
-Attached PDF retired to that big server archive in the sky

EDIT7 (8/7/08, 7pm)
-XLS (Microsoft excel) version available
-ODS (open office) version available

EDIT8 (10/4/08, 1:30pm)
-Updated CBM references to CBM 1.3
-Revised formatting: Single references now optimized for wide-screen viewing & subsections alphabetized
-NOTE: If you use the online version, you MUST update your bookmarks!

EDIT9 (10/6/08, 3:30pm)
-Uploaded link to Snoddasmannen's searchable database.

EDIT10 (1/15/08, 10:30am)
-Added CBM 1.4 references

EDIT11 (9/19/09, 4pm)
-Added CBM 1.6 references

EDIT12 (2/18/2010, 8pm)
-Fixed a few CBM 1.6 errors (thanks vfb, Trumanator, & Tmoe!)

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

This is very nice. Thanks for taking the time to do this!

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

Thanks for this, very nicely colour coded! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif Holy cow. That's awesome dude.

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

I'm getting corrupted archive file errors when trying to unzip the zip with alzip http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Jazzepi

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

I understand the forum is having trouble with attachments.

I've uploaded the zip to 2shared [edit: deleted]
Please let me know if it's still coming back corrupt.

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

Works for me. Thanks Cleveland - awesome work!

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

Thank you cleveland, it's very nice!

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

Alzip appears to have been the problem D: I was able to open the original zips hosted on the forums with window's program.

Jazzepi

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

Thank you Cleveland, this is awesome!

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

Thanks cleveland, its very useful and handy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

I am already using this frequently, cheers Cleveland http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

very nice work cleveland - not sure why the first chart is on it's side? - but that's a minor thing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

New version 2008.01.28 available
 

I've uploaded a new version 2008.01.28, which has some very minor revisions based on feedback. It's not really necessary to "upgrade"...

2008.01.28 changelog
---"Armor of Twisting Thorns" properly italicized
---Credit for Dom3 DB taken from Ed, given to Edi
---Dual-Path FR now opens in proper orientation

I also removed the link to the 2shared hosted file; since the forum link is working properly, 2shared is unnecessary.

Thanks for all the comments. The real credit belongs to Edi for making the Dom3 DB, and to the Devs for delaying the new patch so long that I was bored enough to make this thing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Seriously though, this is a great game and I'm glad I can contribute to this great community.

cleveland

Re: New version 2008.01.28 available
 

It looks great! I think its going to save me a LOT of time! Not to mention reduce wear on the manual...

Re: New version 2008.01.28 available
 

Nice. Thanks!

Re: New version 2008.01.28 available
 

Thanks for the nod. Looks like a damned useful reference. The DB is a tad harsh on the system if you need to fire it up for some trivial info. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: New version 2008.01.28 available
 

And don't forget that it all comes from a newbie. Great job cleveland.

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

I can download it, but now I can't open it.

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

Updated to version 2008.02.01. Like the last "update," only very minor inconsistencies were corrected, so you really shouldn't have to re-download unless you're a perfectionist. Unless there's something I'm completely missing, I expect this will be the final finished product.

2008.02.01 changelog
-"Blood Stone" properly italicized
-"Skull of Fire" properly italicized

Cheers,
cleveland



p.s. @ DryaUnda: Ignore the 2shared link! It's outdated and unnecessary. Download the attachment to the 1st post.

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

very useful, and very nice colors.

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

I tried but it said there was an error during the Stuffit operation (#-37).

...Wait, I think I know what the problem is, spaces and periods in the file name. I edited the name and got it to open. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference
 

Thanks Cleveland. This guide is very, very useful for a new player.

Conceptual Balance Mod FR now available
 

Given the perenial popularity of the Conceptual Balance Mod, I put together a CBM specific forging reference. It is included in the attachment in the first post. It is accurate for CBM 1.21. No changes have been made to the Vanilla Dom3 forging reference, so if you don't use CBM, there's no need to download.

Re: Conceptual Balance Mod FR now available
 

I think this is the biggest drawback to CB which is keeping people away from using it: not knowing how things have changed and being unable to plan ahead in forging items. Good job!

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

I'm currently putting the finishing touches on a new revision of the Forging Reference.

While it includes corrections to a few errors, I'm excited to announce that this revision will be available through GoogleDocs, Google's online office software suite.

The rationale is that I'd like to extend the Dom3FR beyond the 2 flavors currently availble, namely Vanilla and Conceptual Balance.

GoogleDocs will allow me to grant editing privileges to other modders/community members wishing to create References specific to the countless other outstanding mods available that I don't personally use.

Non-modders will NOT need any sort of Google account to access the References; they'll be viewable just like any webpage.

Here's a sneak preview.

Before it goes to the final press, I'm curious to know what the community thinks of this "collaborative project" approach, and if anyone's interested in contributing...?

Cheers,
cleveland

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

It sings. Very nice work C!
-SSJ

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

Nice. There's an easy import for that? Somebody get Edi to do the same with his Dom3 DB... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

Sorry, Ich, but not going to happen. Anyone who likes can make a copy of the DB and modify it as they wish to make a CBM version or such, but I'm not going to put it on something like Google docs or whatever else there is.

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

Seems like it'd be great but it's all... erm, blurry.

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

Hmmm, I'll up the font size when I get some time today.

Quick question: if you increase the zoom of your browser, does it get any better, or just make the blurs larger?

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

Blurry both when zoomed, and printed.

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

Hmm. The reference looks clear to me. What zoom level do you have adobe at?

-SSJ

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

I think Renojustin might be referring to the GoogleDocs version I "sneak previewed" in a recent post:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...sKdolQ_rkM5xIg

My browser is displaying it OK, though the italicized entries are admittedly more difficult to read. I think that if I up the font size, it may fix the problem, though that will require some reformatting, so probably not until later this evening.

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

Thanks for these references Cleveland.

Jazzepi

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

All we need now is a Spell Casting Reference page...

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

this is very neat. Good work!!! and thanks

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

No problem. Actually you've reminded of something I've been meaning to do for quite a while.

I'd like to officially announce that the Dominions 3 Forging Reference is now totally online (direct link is in my sig).

Further, I'd like to officially invite all modders to create their own mod-specific references for inclusion in the project.

My hope is to create a central "hub" where forging references for any mod can be accessed by the community.

If you're a modder (or mod enthusiast) and would like to add to the project, just create a (free) gmail account &amp; PM me your gmail address. GoogleDocs is very straightforward, and you can use what I've posted as a template.

Cheers,
cleveland

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

You could add forging costs in gems [or even online calculator where you put forge bonus], of course you have it in manual, but it may get confusing, especially with dual path items.

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference Project
 

Send me your gmail address and make it so!

And that info we were discussing! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

it'd be totally awesome if everything linked to a descrip of the item too. but maybe that's just too much.

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

My gmail address is confidential http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif And for that thing you need - I need to verify 1-2 things to be sure I don't give you wrong thing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

Hey just a little thing - in the Vanilla Single page, Earth 5 and Earth 6 are just listed as "5" and "6" rather than E5 and E6. Otherwise, it's beautiful. I want to print it as a poster. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

Ask, and you shall receive.

I think that's going to be my new theme, actually... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

You could create a new Gmail account specifically for editing the GoogleDocs.

-Max

Re: Dom3 (& CBM) Item Forging Reference
 

Cleveland,

That's awesome. Thanks!

-Max

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference Project
 

Sweet Mary!

I just figured out how to publish the spreadsheets as Comma-Separated-Values (CSV) files!

In other words, everyone can download the raw data and open it in their own spreadsheet-manipulating-software!

Try it out!

<font color="brown">Egads! .xls! .ods! </font>

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference Project
 

Methinks you are a geek, Cleveland. But thanks, this looks handy.

Updated October 4th!
 

In spite of my ongoing hiatus from Dom3, I decided to kick back today and play a quick SP game.

To my chagrin, I found that my CBM Forging References were woefully out of date.

Ergo, I present the most recent iteration of the Dom3 Forging References. The CBM References are now fully compliant with CBM 1.3, and the format has been updated: subsections have been alphabetized & the Single references have been optimized for wide-screen viewing.

Click HERE to access the latest online version!

Please note that if you use the online version, you MUST update your bookmarks.

See the 1st post for a full description & the Excel, Open Office, etc versions.

Feedback/complaints/death threats are, as always, encouraged.

Cheers,
cleveland

Re: Dom3 Item Forging Reference Project - Updated October 4th!
 

Snoddasmannen has graciously expanded his searchable online database to include the Vanilla Forging Reference!

Snoddasmannen's database available HERE!