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VedalkenBear January 28th, 2008 11:38 PM

3.14 Event: National Auto-troop
 
I just had an event in my Bogarus game:

'A wave of religious zeal has swept the province and a group of _lowborn_ (emphasis mine) soldiers committed to your cause have joined your army.'

I check the province, and I notice that I received 32 Voi Axemen. I was wondering if everyone would get them, or if we have an event now that gives out a specific troop based on nation.

(I believe I had an event, same game already, where I got the normal militia.)

Information would be appreciated!

Cerlin January 29th, 2008 01:33 AM

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This is great! I had the same event with Bogarus. I have yet to have it with another faction but i look forward to it being there.

They did mention new random events would be in the game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

OoohSnap January 29th, 2008 05:06 AM

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I do think that this random event is for all nations. I was playing an SP game with MA Eriu and I got the same event with the "Lowborn" emphasis. And I got 40 Milesian Spearmans.

LDiCesare January 29th, 2008 05:49 AM

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I got milites with LA Pythium. It's great if that replaces the generic milita. At least, it's colorful, and 40 milites are actually able to take a few indep provinces by themselves (provided you bring a leader of course).

MKDELTA January 29th, 2008 08:45 AM

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Had it with Shinuyama, I got those little Bakemonos with clubs. 68 of them.

Sir_Dr_D January 29th, 2008 10:55 AM

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awesome. That makes the events more interesting, and does a lot towards balancing the luck scale.

Digress January 30th, 2008 07:57 AM

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Any guesses what this might mean for mod nations ?

Endoperez January 30th, 2008 09:44 AM

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If all nations indeed get events like these, mod nations can imitate the phenomenom by choosing a nation of another era, and replacing the unit that is summoned. E.g. a MA nation can replace LA Bogarus instead of taking up a nation slot, and replace Voi Axemen with something appopriate.

As for whether new mod nations that don't use this trick get militia, I've got no idea.

Zeldor January 30th, 2008 10:41 AM

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It does not replace militia, you can get militia too.

Torin January 30th, 2008 10:44 AM

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lonely militia or with the priest?

Zeldor January 30th, 2008 10:45 AM

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I got 100 lonely militia as LA Man. And I also got an event with lowborn.

LDiCesare January 30th, 2008 10:48 AM

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Maybe there's a flag in the unit description that tags it as 'national militia'? Or the event uses (one of) the troops usable for PD?

Kristoffer O January 30th, 2008 01:11 PM

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> Maybe there's a flag in the unit description that tags it as 'national militia'?

Unfortunately not. It would be nice though.

When finishing Bogarus I was annoyed that they didn't get enough voi, since you rarely buy lowly troops. Instead you get militia, which is inappropriate. When I added the voi event for Bogarus I thought other nations would benefit as well, especially monkies and bakemonos and stuff.

I think most nations have got one or sometimes two new 'militia' events, but there are some that are still lacking. More will probably appear, since they are quite easy to add. There is unfortunately no easy way to add them to mods. Endos suggestion is probably thrte best working one.

Saulot January 30th, 2008 03:06 PM

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Hm. I have to say the new events significantly improve the nation atmosphere (as well as remove the annoyance of near-constant plain militia events when going high luck).

On the topic of atmosphere, the new nation being much darker is also great plus (and I hope you continue the trend). Thanks Illwinter + Intern. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Sawyer January 30th, 2008 05:45 PM

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Yes, the new nation-based militia is a pleasant surprise. Part of me always wanted to buy low-end soldiers for thematic purposes but the opportunity cost made it unappealing. Now I no longer have to make that decision!

Tichy January 30th, 2008 06:06 PM

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The new thematic militia event is great!

Now, please, get rid of the regular militia event!

Pretty please?

Meglobob January 30th, 2008 06:50 PM

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This is great, I second the get rid of regular militia, its far more thematic to get your low end national troops as a random event.

Kristoffer O January 30th, 2008 06:51 PM

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The normal militia was kept as there are still nations that doesn't have their own unit events.

quantum_mechani January 30th, 2008 07:19 PM

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I doubt anyone would cry if they suddenly no longer got any militia events. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Sad that event modding in not in the cards though, so many possibilities. Are poptype and non-national site recruitment modding also major technical hurtles?

NTJedi January 30th, 2008 08:24 PM

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Quote:

quantum_mechani said:
I doubt anyone would cry if they suddenly no longer got any militia events. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Sad that event modding in not in the cards though, so many possibilities.

During the development of Dominions_3 I requested the option for modding of events, but it must have been too complex. Hopefully it will become available for Dominions_4.

I agree with Meglobob and others on removing the generic militia event.

BesucherXia January 30th, 2008 08:36 PM

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That also means LA Ermor will never receive those upkeep-leaching militias?
Cheer for this small yet great move of improvement!

Hadrian_II January 30th, 2008 08:37 PM

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the militia event is quite funny, as he creates place for strange diplomacy. ("Is it okay for you when i attack you with lots of militia in province 153?")

but i would also second his removal, or move him to misfortune: "some peasants have declared themselve part of our army, and are now eating the bigger part of our supplies" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

vfb February 2nd, 2008 08:07 PM

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Sad to say, MA C'tis still gets ordinary militia events. C'tis light infantry would have been nice. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Jazzepi February 2nd, 2008 08:24 PM

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Quote:

BesucherXia said:
That also means LA Ermor will never receive those upkeep-leaching militias?
Cheer for this small yet great move of improvement!

Ha. Ha. The first thing I did when I heard about this was to test it. LA Ermor still gets flaggies and militia. Though militia are by far worse =\

I'd like it if ermor just got more undead!

Jazzepi

Zeldor February 2nd, 2008 08:26 PM

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Jazzepi:

Like: "Many villagers decided to suicide to your glory and join your undead armies!" ?

NTJedi February 2nd, 2008 08:34 PM

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Quote:

Zeldor said:
Jazzepi:

Like: "Many villagers decided to suicide to your glory and join your undead armies!" ?

I'd recommend: "A hermit nercomancer comes down from a high mountain to devoting himself and his unique creations to the Ermor nation."
The unique creations can be a random mix of undead units.

cleveland February 2nd, 2008 08:49 PM

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Strange there's no "disband" option.

BesucherXia February 3rd, 2008 07:09 PM

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Quote:


Jazzepi said:

Ha. Ha. The first thing I did when I heard about this was to test it. LA Ermor still gets flaggies and militia. Though militia are by far worse =\

I'd like it if ermor just got more undead!

Jazzepi


Hm... at least we can still leave it for 3.16...
But maybe after 3.14 follws 3.141, then 3.1415... That means we will never receive another patch since 3.16 is never reachable...

Cor2 February 4th, 2008 12:27 AM

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actually, I am playing a game where I am counting on militia events. I want them! so don't remove them until after this game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Lingchih February 5th, 2008 04:38 AM

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MA Ermor. I got 20 Velites. Consider that would cost me 200 gold, I would say that it's a pretty good event.


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