Venezuela OOB
 

Is there any plan or thought to add Venezuela to the OOB list?

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No plans to

Don

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There are no plans to add any additional OOBs to the official list from what we've been told.

However, there are those of us who have been working on our own making OOBs. Venezuela was suggested to me, along with Colombia, and I had thought of trying to do Mexico myself. While a lot of work, if you're really interested you might want to investigate doing it yourself as well.

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Colombia and Venezeula have come to mind here too...
If you have extensive enough material to patch up a coherent OOB from 1946 to 2020, I for one wounld be interested in seeing that.
I think there are a number of people working on their own, non-standard OOBs here in any case; as far as I'm concerned I'm sticking with Morocco and Slovenia (with big lumps of salt on this one).

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For these nations mentioned, you surely know you can use+modify the 'Green' OOB (Latin America) and the 'Red' OOB for Eastern Europe-
About Slovenia, as you mentioned it: actually you will find the unique Slovenian 'Valuk' APCs (a version of the Steyr Pandur 1) in the current Red OOB so it's not that bad at all! Just keep modding it + publish it here to make it even better!

Of course it would be nice to have several additional countries but as you've been told, the game doesn't allow for that to be done. Morocco, Venezuela, Columbia would all be great to have, I fully agree.

Another idea: For those African nations that are missing, another idea would be to sacrifice an OOB of a smaller nation and use the slot to create a third 'regional' OOB just like red for europe/former USSR states + green for america... in WinSPWW2 you also got 3 such OOBs so that might be an option - what do you think?

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I think its more safe to say that there's no intention to add more nations to game releases. The game's built in editor very much allows one to do almost anything. It would be very easy to find nations with base exp/morale ratings that seem appropriate and appropriate timelines (most Latin American nations are 1946-2020 which makes it easier). You just have to find nations that aren't important to you when you'd be playing in a a region.

This was house Laurent Touchard's Vietnam pack was, which I modeled mine after in format. There's multiple new OOBs in there including the from scratch created Lao and Philippine ones.

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Sorry, bad thread.

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I'm talking ColdWar2020 oob sadly, nothing worth releasing for the heathens... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif
I agree that in the real world Slovenia can be shoved in a corner of the Red or Croatian OOB, but I'm thinking of getting use of the Slovakian OOB. It's unlikely I'll need this one in the context, and the dates are pretty close.
My idea as well. Maybe even scrifice the OOB of a lesser African country of the desired area (central/western/equatorial Africa, have your pick) to expand it to a multinational stock OOB similar to Red or Green?

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Yeah - just like in WW2, call it blue or whatever and put in all the formations needed to relieve some pressure from red+green and to make it easier to distinguish between the regions.

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It seems befuddling that you are so flippant about the most explosive place on the planet right now??

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Flippant? This is a game. I'd say its hardly being flippant. I'd also say its hardly the most explosive place on the planet right now, seeing how interconnected the three countries (Ecuador, Colombia, and Venezuela) are. You'll notice that Correa hasn't suspended economic contacts with Colombia, and though Chavez keeps threatening too he hasn't either.

Right now its a lot of posturing, really for benefit of the larger political scene in the region. That largely has to do with the future of the region, differing views on contacts with the US, and Chavez's political ego, looking to become a serious regional political hegemon. That he has to deal with a major US ally so close no doubt irks him to no end. Its pretty obvious that whatever you think of FARC, Chavez is trying to undermine the more politically right leadership in Colombia. Its regional geopolitics at work, and I honestly think its a bit early to think that this kind of sabre rattling is actually going to lead to a war, especially with the European community and the US and their attitude toward FARC and Colombia.

On a more important level heh, I've been trying to track down sufficient information on Colombia and Venezuela for some time now, and its just not readily available. If it were, I'd have made these OOBs for sure. If people have the information I'd be happy to do the grunt work of putting the OOB together.

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Hmm I would be interested about Venezuela/Colombia/Mexico OOBs (if somebody could do them;))... And how about Dominican Rebublic OOB if there's already Haiti OOB (thatguy I suppose)?

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I'm waiting on two books on Latin American armor...which seem to be lost in the mail at the moment http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

I was hoping they would provide enough details to be work. Armor introduction and out of service dates seem to be some of the hardest information to come back. There's also no hints at any sort of organization usually. The orgs are much easier to fudge though, once you get some sort of basic understanding of what was available and when. This is very much how certain elements of both my Philippine and Haitian OOBs were done.

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Okay, so the books have arrived, but so has the end of my final semester of grad school and the upcoming patch. I'm going to wait at least until the release of the patch to do any sort of work on the OOBs I have new information on already in game and to start work on ones that I could probably build now. I'll also no doubt have to update the Haitian, Dominican Republic, and Philippine OOBs. The patch has notoriously had serious affects on the Vietnam pack as well.

The long and the short of it is expect delays, but also that various projects are now likely to be in the works.