Dom3 DB Version 3.15
 

Dom3 DB has been updated from v3.10 to v3.15. The new version includes all new units, weapons and armor in patches 3.14 and 3.15. The new file has been uploaded to the usual location.

EDIT: New sites and locmask changes to old sites have now been updated to the DB, thanks to the data provided by EricM. The newly fixed DB has been reuploaded. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

The Dom3 DB v3.15 file no longer includes a full Excel file of the DB, just the Open Office version. However, it includes static versions of the DB (i.e. no formulas, just numerical data) for both Open Office and Excel. This means that if you only need to look up some data about a specific unit, use the static versions, because they load quickly and will not bring your computer to its knees.

Old thread for Dom3 DB v3.10

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Awesome work Edi!

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Thanks Edi!

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Thanks!

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Here you go Edi. Here's the magic site list for 3.15.

It's a text file in a semi mod format.

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Wow, thanks! Looks like you managed to steal the march on DrPraetorious and you even did it without being asked. Thankee muchly indeed!

*off to update DB*

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DB update complete and DB file reuploaded.

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http://koti.welho.com/ehalttun/Image...s/banghead.gif

Sorry for the almighty bother, everyone, but looks like I also screwed up the second time. I clean forgot to include the list of sound effects that Ich put together some time back and I'd also forgotten to put correct info for Ghoul Guardian.

Those have now been fixed and proper credit given to Ich for the sound effects and EricM for the site information for this version.

File reuploaded - again. Well, I suppose third time's the charm...

In any case, next DB update will only happen when the next patch comes out, so Dom3 DB v3.15 is about as final as it gets. May it be useful to all sundry.

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Thank you Edi!

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Thanks Edi!

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Once again, as both a player and a modder, your work is peerless and indispensable.

Thank you.

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Thanks, especially for the static versions.

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Thanks, everyone.

But I can't bloody believe it... Must be flu and fever messing up my brain. I forgot to add the sound effect page to the static version (it's in the full version, so if you add a new sheet and just copy that one from the full to static you're okay). I'll add it to the next version, along with fixes for black steel armors in the armor section (helmet and full plate have 22 prot listed, should be 23).

I'll add an errata list to this post. If you find other errors in the Base tables in the DB, please report them so I can fix them. I know there are errors with the morale and possibly MR values of low level priests because some of those were changed sometime along the way but I have no idea which ones.

DB ERRATA FOR v3.15

• Blacksteel Full Plate & Blacksteel Helmet prot 23, not 22
• Sound effect page for static versions
• Plague Scythe no longer 1-handed

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Edi,

I found an extremely minor error in the DB:

The Skull Mentor item (#267) is listed as a Construction 6 item; it's actually Construction 4.

Cheers

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Thanks. This is what I'm talking about. Keep them coming.

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Hey Edi,

Do you know if there is a database-style list anywhere of all the spells, along with their research schools and levels? Would be most handy for modding purposes. If not, have you got any ideas how I could make one in an automated way?

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There is something on the mod forum, but that's the work of DrPraetorious. His spell modding guide does have a list of some sort and I took a look at it at one time, but only briefly.

I have no ideas how to make such a list in an automated fashion, so you would be better off asking DrP about it.

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http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...;Number=608949

Go there and tell them what you had in mind.

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2 more item-related errors found:
1) Winged Shoes (#195) is a Const4 item, but is currently listed as Const2
2) Rainbow Armor (#165) gives +3 MR, but is currently listed as +0 MR

Cheers,
cleveland

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Thanks, Cleveland. I'll fix the stuff listed here for the next version when the patch comes out.

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unit correction:

855(unitID) Valkyrie is not listed with flying trait


there were a few others, yet I didn't write them down and cannot remember now

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The reanim column omits many demon and undead priests, all of whom I believe can reanimate. The column should probably be deleted or made dependent on demon/undead & holy.

Great Boar of Carnutes 1809 domsummon2 Great Boar 1807.

Tribal King 730 summons #? Slave 720.

Bane Spider 877 isn't listed as an assassin.

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Thanks.

The reanim column is a legacy of the early days of Dom3 DB. I'll axe it, because reanimation is not a unit attribute, but dependent on undead/demon status or #undeadnation tag on nations.

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where is the DB for .17?

/me pokes Edi

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One more post like that from anyone in any thread and there will be NO v3.17 for anyone but the people I care about enough to send it to them by email.

This is the one and only warning I'm going to give on this subject.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image.../firedevil.gif

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Where is the new... ice cream you promised me? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Dedas, I [censored] meant it. I know you think you're being funny and trying to lighten me up, but it's having precisely the opposite effect.

People have been taking it for granted that I do things for the community as a matter of course and it's not a joking matter with me anymore. Not after the bull**** in the thread where the prospect of anyone making a PDF manual supplement for all the patched stuff was discussed. Coming fairly hard on the heels of that, the demand that a new version of the DB be available the second the patch is out is pretty goddamn obnoxious and I'm not in the mood to listen to any jokes about it. ANY jokes around that issue. I've simply had it with that and I don't have any humor left over this issue, at all.

So if the first warning wasn't clear enough, this should be: I do not want any pestering about this issue, or any jokes either. If there's anyone stupid enough on the forums to want to dare me on this and see if I'm bluffing, everyone will suffer the consequences. It might be REALLY interesting to see the reaction if all of the useful stuff I have made available here were to vanish into thin air.

I'm not going to give a third warning. Any more lip, any more jokes about this, from anyone at all, and my stuff will start disappearing from public. Permanently. The bug shortlist is the only exception to that.

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Edi, seeing this thread reminded me that I wanted to say that I hope you know that the time and effort you put into your Dom3 projects (and it must be a _staggering_ amount of time) is hugely appreciated by a great many of us. You make many, many projects possible that would otherwise not be, and your work is completely invaluable.

I do hope myself and others haven't failed to let you know our appreciation for all your work. The database is, honestly, quite incredible.

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hey edi where's the non drama queen baby update for 3.17

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I warned people not to call my bluff. I was not kidding about it either, but apparently some people don't believe what they are told.

Dom3 DB v3.17 will not be released to the public at all.

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I said I was not kidding and that there will be no further warnings. I don't make empty threats regarding documents I've produced myself. The previous post was not an empty threat and it was not a bluff. It was a promise.

• The Dom3 FAQ is gone.
• The UOR Mod manual is gone. The version I had ready for v3.17 with all the fixes for the will not be released.
• The forum attachment of Better Independents mod is gone.
• As soon as I get home, all of my Dominions 3 maps will be gone, likewise all copies of Dom3 DB 3.15 and earlier that I have delete access to.
• The download version of Better Independents mod will be deleted.

The bug shortlist will be updated as normal and I will be around to maintain that.

The rest of the stuff is not coming back anytime soon, if at all. You can all thank Aezeal and paparapapa for that.

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Edi, I don't blame you. I had a feeling someone would be stupid enough to throw out another annoying provocation - it seems when you have enough people there is always one in the crowd.

I don't expect you to put things back but I do second LLamabeast's post that what you have done is appreciated by the silent, non-provocative majority.

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yay edi, you message me with your warning, I do nothing to agitate you afterwards (and the first post was a joke anyway) and you still put me on the blame list.

Well Edi, please don't spend any time on dom 3 anymore and go look for your sense of humor first. If your life is in the crapper don't take it out on pplz who are just posting a lil post on the forum (ow 2 if you include that other joke with whatever it was, you seem to remember it better than me) and joking a bit.

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I wasn't a heavy user of the database, but I will miss having the FAQ around; it was a one-stop location to send new players. I'm also sad that the maps won't be centrally available any longer. For everyone who did get heavy use out of the database, I sympathize; stuff like this always hits small, relatively tightly nit fan communities hard.

Thanks for maintaining all that stuff while you did, Edi. I have no idea what happened in the other threads you mentioned, but I'm sad that it did, whatever it was.

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Edi,

For what it's worth,

1.) I'm on your side. The whinging and general air of entitlement was really obnoxious and rude.

2.) I'm glad I have a copy of the BI mod on my hard drive.

3.) If at some point you should contemplate whether to relent (to the extent of un-deleting things previously posted) I hope you bear in mind that some people really appreciated your work.

4.) Thanks. See you around.

-Max

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You were the last straw. You aren't the whole reason, but a reason nonetheless.

For future reference:
If someone isn't in the mood to be humoured, don't try to humour him. In real life, you can get hurt (I've got personal experience on this).

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Ehm Endo htf should I have know he wasn't in any mood to be humoured it's on the net, I don't see him. I got his message about it/read his reaction on it only after I posted (it's usually like that). Not to mention that even in real live pplz usually ask me not to do certain stuff if the don't like what I'm doing.

I just DL-ed 3.17 upgrade and see this thread about something .15.. so I mention 3.17... it's normal, I think it's sort of funny (which is why I posted it in the first place) and not at all inappropriate, I didn't demand anything (not in here but that is how he calls it in his PM to me). I don't say he's gotta think it's funny, but acting like I'm the source of all evil is a bit much.

Ow and Max, if you think his reaction is normal I will have to disagree, because my post was not rude, and his reaction could be consider somewhat rude. (my reply is a different matter (see below))

To which I would like to add that our following conversation (PM) was much more civil (from both sides, I'm the first to admit I react very badly, agressively and rude on insults)

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Aezeal,

If it were just this thread I'd agree with you, but you've interacted with Edi before about the PDFs and that exchange went sour too. I don't think you can justifiably claim to be surprised. By the way, the proper judge of whether something is "not at all inappropriate" is not a speaker but his audience.

I agree that Edi's response was also rude, but I have limited sympathy for your current situation.

-Max

Edit: removed provocative comment.

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Max I've read the previous "encounter" (thx to Edi) and IMHO there is humour all over it.

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Hmmm. Let me lighten up for a second here--it's possible that you don't realize when you're coming across as offensive. You're right in that the Internet can make it hard to tell sometimes, and makes it easy to be unintentionally rude.

The essence of courtesy to "to accomplish your goals without unintended harm to others." The corollary is that it's quite possible to be rude without meaning to, simply by not understanding how other people are likely to react to your words. I wish you better luck in your future interactions. Accidental rudeness is not something I'm immune to, either.

-Max

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Aezeal may have inadvertently got the ball rolling here with an attempt to be funny, which I can certainly relate to, but he did not pull the trigger and as he pointed out, he had the good sense not to poke further, unlike paparapa whose 14th career post in 2 years was a doozy. Nice work dude.

Anyway, when you are the beneficiary of something it is smart to be delicate about it. Whether someone's reaction seems unusually harsh to you doesn't really matter. It was clear Edi was bothered by the sense of entitlement that had become something of a bogbeast kind of joke around here and he decided to draw the line. That was when the investor in me figured it was time to download any Edi work product because you know there is always some punk that wants to make a name for himself, and in this case it was paparapa.

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Ok let's just leave it at this, I still disagree with max and about all his courtesy and appropriate commments I have quite a lot to say but it's not really going anywhere really. Edi had a bad day and what happened happened. Let's forget it and not dwell on anyones bad day, bad comments or whatever anymore.

Maybe it's even best to close the thread since we can't really expect much on-topic (on original topic that is) posts anyway. More posts can only get more reactions that serve no real purpose.

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Well, I'm saddened to see such an invaluable resource to the Dom community be ganked by some forum noob being an idiot.

Thanks for all the work you've put in Edi. Just wanted to say that instead of staying part of the *silent* majority.

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oh no now i'll never get to enjoy [censored] i never used provided by someone with a bigger entitlement complex than the people he's complaining about http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

good job being more childish than the people asking simple questions (or worse, making jokes! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif ). your posts and actions in this thread reflect far worse about you than any comment i or anybody else could hope to make. frankly it's ultimately a good thing if someone who puts out stuff to monopolize and threaten people with like you moves on to other things

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Allright, thats enough of this. This thread is being locked and going on a cooldown period.

If Edi wants to resurrect it, he can do it later.

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While I believe this got way too out of hand unneccessarily, paparapapa, your comment is a little out of line and does nothing to help the situation. Edi has contributed things to the community of his own free will using his own time. He is not monopolizing anything. If you think you can do better, by all means post your stuff too. No one is squelching community content here and to imply so is not only insulting but just plain ignorant of our company and what it stands for.

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Edi, I didn't read the whole thread, just saw your post about "last warning" and thought it was all fun and games. I'm real sorry that I made you angry, it wasn't my intention at all.

Please accept my sincerest apology.

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It's okay, Dedas. I know you meant well, you've always been a good guy on the forums. So don't worry about it. You are not to blame for this. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

As far as the content, the FAQ is back up. Permanently. I realized the importance of the FAQ to the community as a whole and to new people in particular and talked to Mindi about it. She was rather adamant that it be put back. In fact, she might have some well-tanned dragonhide to sell to interested parties on that score.

Finally, I owe Aezeal a public apology for my overreaction. It seems our senses of humor do not mesh very well on certain occasions, but I do acknowledge that he was sincere and joking.

The rest of the documentation I've made, Dom3 DB, the BI mod, the UOR Mod Manual, well, we shall see in a bit. I'm not putting the v3.15 stuff back up in any case, as it's all outdated.

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Hunt: I don't believe this line of inquiry is going to be productive. Can we please just drop the issue?