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Atrocities April 8th, 2008 12:18 PM

Its a little late for April Fools Jokes
 
The Grid, a million times faster than the fastest internet connection.

The Link

I am trying not to laugh, but if this is true, how much are they going to charge for ISP access to it? $500.00 a month or more?

GuyOfDoom April 8th, 2008 12:29 PM

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I still remember when charging $40+ for very primitive dial-up wasn't out of the question. I imagine it's going to be very selective to research institutions for quite some time.

Xrati April 8th, 2008 12:41 PM

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Wow!!! With that speed the spammers can really dump on you!

I hope they are very selective of who they let on this. I would hate to see the hackers have a field day with high speed viruses and spyware.

PvK April 8th, 2008 03:44 PM

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That story was about as inaccurate and misleading as most FOX "News" stories.

See also:
http://gridcafe.web.cern.ch/gridcafe...id/whatis.html

Atrocities April 8th, 2008 04:38 PM

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PvK said:
That story was about as inaccurate and misleading as most FOX "News" stories.

See also:
http://gridcafe.web.cern.ch/gridcafe...id/whatis.html

Well at least they are more accurate and balanced than all of the other news sources they compete against.

PvK April 8th, 2008 05:11 PM

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I dunno. I think Comedy Central has the upper hand.

GuyOfDoom April 9th, 2008 02:26 AM

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I dunno. I think Comedy Central has the upper hand.

I have to second that.

David E. Gervais April 9th, 2008 07:38 AM

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Nothing wrong with ultra high speed grid,.. but currently we do not have the technology to 'Write' 80gig in 5 seconds. The only way we can come close is to do direct dump from grid to RAM. (and I'm not even sure our current through-ports to RAM can transfer that fast) So unless the target computer has like a few thousand gigs of ram. The HD is going to be the deciding factor on how fast you can receive data.

..But it is nice to think about those kinds of speed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Suicide Junkie April 9th, 2008 01:00 PM

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The trick would be to buy one, and then have a whole server farm or subdivision plugged in.

Atrocities April 9th, 2008 01:22 PM

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PvK said:
I dunno. I think Comedy Central has the upper hand.

Classic. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif Simply classic.

AMF April 9th, 2008 01:24 PM

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Atrocities said:
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PvK said:
That story was about as inaccurate and misleading as most FOX "News" stories.

See also:
http://gridcafe.web.cern.ch/gridcafe...id/whatis.html

Well at least they are more accurate and balanced than all of the other news sources they compete against.

FOX is about as accurate and balanced as PRAVDA was during the Cold War. And serves much of the same function.

Atrocities April 9th, 2008 01:34 PM

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AMF said:
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Atrocities said:
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PvK said:
That story was about as inaccurate and misleading as most FOX "News" stories.

See also:
http://gridcafe.web.cern.ch/gridcafe...id/whatis.html

Well at least they are more accurate and balanced than all of the other news sources they compete against.

FOX is about as accurate and balanced as PRAVDA was during the Cold War. And serves much of the same function.

Fox news, not the opinion shows, is not a right wing propaganda enterprise. To say that Fox News, not the opinion shows, is not accurate or balanced is simply an uninformed and unfair character assassination attempt against the number one news organization on cable TV. If they were so unbalanced, say like MSNBC is, then why are they the ratings leader? Simple answer, more people believe that they are the most balanced of the news networks and therefore are preferred by most people. Again thats the NEWS end of things and not the dumb opinion shows.

GuyOfDoom April 9th, 2008 04:33 PM

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Ah see there is your mistake. You're assuming ratings has anything to do with accuracy or reliability of a news network. Turns out that's the main problem with FOX news. They often invent or twist the news to get RATINGS.

Caduceus April 9th, 2008 05:29 PM

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Let's stop the arguments for and against cable news networks, I don't think we'll change anyone's mind.

Besides, the best tagline used to be from "The Daily Show" - "When news breaks, we fix it!"

AMF April 9th, 2008 06:53 PM

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Atrocities said:
Fox news, not the opinion shows, is not a right wing propaganda enterprise. To say that Fox News, not the opinion shows, is not accurate or balanced is simply an uninformed and unfair character assassination attempt against the number one news organization on cable TV. If they were so unbalanced, say like MSNBC is, then why are they the ratings leader? Simple answer, more people believe that they are the most balanced of the news networks and therefore are preferred by most people. Again thats the NEWS end of things and not the dumb opinion shows.

Well, then you've provided a clear and testable hypothesis for whether Fox as a channel is more biased than other news outlets. Essentially, you are claiming that the more opinion shows has, the more biased they are.

With that I present this factoid:

"The Project on Excellence in Journalism study[38] showed that 68 percent of Fox cable stories contained personal opinions, as compared to MSNBC at 27 percent and CNN at 4 percent."

Ref: Project for Excellence in Journalism, State of the News Media 2006: An Annual Report on American Journalism

Can be found at: http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2006/index.asp

I leave it to you to go, read the report, and, I am certain, come up with some way to dismiss it.

Atrocities April 10th, 2008 12:12 AM

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Dude why do you feel that you must turn everything into a debate about who is write and wrong? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Really what the [censored] does it matter anyways, you get your news from your skewed sources, and I'll get mine from my skewed sources. Call it even. We both know that when they own the news, they can bend it any way they want.

I could research and post a dozen links to support FOX news but I don't give a [censored] about it enough to waste my time doing that. Besides studies and such are often tainted and horribly misleading. One says X is bad, another says X is good. Who do we believe?

In the end it all boils down to what your comfortable with. So I go back to saying, whatever floats your boat is all well and good in my book. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

AMF April 10th, 2008 12:19 AM

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Atrocities said:
Dude why do you feel that you must turn everything into a debate about who is write and wrong? What the [censored] does it matter anyways, you get your news from your skewed sources, and I'll get mine from my skewed sources. Call it even.

Off the top of my head, at least three reasons:

One, I care about my country, and I refuse to sit by and watch it and its values hijacked by misanthropes

Two, I am, at least in my own way, a scientist and therefore I value truths that are arrived at scientifically and verifiably. And truths, even socio-technocratic ones, are even more important than physical truths because they affect people's lives.

Three, I have but one life to give for my country. See [1] above.

Atrocities April 10th, 2008 03:53 AM

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Good enough for me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I am proud to be an American and have the freedom to make those choices. God Bless the United States.

Xrati April 10th, 2008 04:56 PM

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You guys are both right. In different words you say the same things. It's all in how we digest what we hear or read.

My theory is: "I believe nothing of what I hear, and half of what I see."

When you see reports that tell you something is good for you. It's usually sponsored/funded by the company/business that has the most to gain. That, you can take to the bank!!! The news is no different. It used to be the four W's. Now it's opinionated journalism. I'm sorry, "Alleged" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif opinionated journalism. Don't want to forget that "A" word that opens the door for opinions!!!

Atrocities April 10th, 2008 06:11 PM

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The truth be told, the truth is seldom told.

Now if you want to hear the truth that I hold to, visit this LINK. This guy about sums it all up quite nicely.

GuyOfDoom April 11th, 2008 12:21 PM

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That guy seems to be selectively paying attention to many things, history in particular. But then again most people who are tend to forget Japanese internment or the Red Scare.

Atrocities April 11th, 2008 12:59 PM

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That guy seems to be selectively paying attention to many things, history in particular. But then again most people who are tend to forget Japanese internment or the Red Scare.

Far more immediate seems to be the realization that far to many people have forgotten New York, Washington D.C., and that small field in PA. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Randallw April 11th, 2008 11:47 PM

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GuyOfDoom said:
That guy seems to be selectively paying attention to many things, history in particular. But then again most people who are tend to forget Japanese internment or the Red Scare.

Or the Armenian genocide, or the systematic elimination of native americans, or the Dresden, or Tokyo, firebombing. Where I live we had a systematic elimination of the native population, either killing them off or shipping them off to an island to die. History is full of such things and they only become controversial should the perpetrators fall afoul of public opinion. One could be principled and equally decry all such things, but bother pointing out the problem to people and I feel they tend to argue they were the enemy at the time, or ask where Armenia is. In the face of such things what's the point. Much of what the majority of the population takes as gospel tends to be otherwise if you bother to look into it. One of my hobbies is studying history, and people ask me why I get depressed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif.

Atrocities April 12th, 2008 01:31 AM

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Why do we die? We die so that we never pass on the lessons we have learned to the next generation. Hence we are doomed to repeat them. And don't ever forget, had Japan gained the upper hand in WWII, it would have been our cities being fired bombed and our populations being eradicated. Such is the evil nature of war.

And regardless of how some folks feel, the United States has never produced an Adolf Hitler, Stalin, or Pol Pok in its 200 plus year existence. And any one who says that we have is just plain crazy.

narf poit chez BOOM April 12th, 2008 01:34 AM

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Correction: The US has never produced someone as successfull, nor gone that far.

I'm sure there's quite a few people in the KKK who would do as bad, provided they had the opportunity and the capability.

The worse thing one can do for ones' nation is to assume that all is well in it.

GuyOfDoom April 12th, 2008 03:28 AM

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As the quote says "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

It's interesting the sense of perspective you keep using because I'm sure if you asked a German in WW2 about Hitler he would have complimented his leadership. Perspective is always an interesting thing.

You make the assumption that interning all Japanese AMERICANS during WW2 somehow helped us win. Not only does that not make sense, it has no evidence to support it. Japan lost the war due to a lack of supplies. They didn't expect such a quick retaliation because they didn't expect the workforce of America to be compensated for by women. Two front wars are hard. The US has a major advantage in terms of geography and that's been 95% of the reason we've gotten as far as we have.

dumbluck April 12th, 2008 10:57 AM

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...The US has a major advantage in terms of geography and that's been 95% of the reason we've gotten as far as we have.

Nothing like having a giant moat around 1/2 your borders, is there?

Xrati April 12th, 2008 12:05 PM

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With history repeating itself, the great depression of 2008 is nearly upon us. All the signs are there! All the same the same circumstances are already repeating themselves. Are you ready?

The media paints a lovely picture and all is well. By ignoring all the signs and taking action now, we will just pay a heavier price down the road. The media continues it's biased reporting and will be subject to accountability once the public realizes what the media is doing.

GuyOfDoom April 12th, 2008 12:10 PM

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With history repeating itself, the great depression of 2008 is nearly upon us. All the signs are there!

While I agree things are not great financially I don't think it will be another Great Depression. I can tell you the "stimulus" package that Bush is giving us all in June is going to make things worse though.

Renegade 13 April 12th, 2008 05:05 PM

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GuyOfDoom said:
The US has a major advantage in terms of geography and allies and that's been 95% of the reason we've gotten as far as we have.

Corrected.


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