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Zeldor April 12th, 2008 08:59 AM

Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
I couldn't find a topic on that, but there must be one!

One to gather all that small things. Strange, hidden or way too obvious to know. The ones that you find by accident in some small thread on or irc.

So write here them all. I guess small things from manual that get missed should be included too. Just small things though.

Examples:
- Elixir of Life works on Lifeless beings
- mages with only random picks can be built without a lab
- trampling does not give you gems from Sickle Whose Crop is Pain [someone could acutally test what can give them]
- Domes stack
- immobile units cannot use Teleport etc

I am sure that someone has much better examples http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Herode April 12th, 2008 09:02 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Undead units can catch diseases http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Wrana April 12th, 2008 09:15 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
But don't get penalties from them! Which made them primary candidates for Fever Fetish in Dominions 2. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif However, this was fixed so now undead with FF produce much less gems.

Edi April 12th, 2008 09:20 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Changing a mod will retroactively alter ongoing games to match the new settings since it is only an overlay on the game engine, not an actual alteration of the engine.

The various movement bugs.

Sombre April 12th, 2008 10:37 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
If you make a Jotun Herse, Demonbred, Lizard King or Dwarf smith into a prophet, they get a special graphic.

DonCorazon April 12th, 2008 11:23 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Click a unit, then click 'S', and you will see all your starving units.

Great for pulling out hungry, low morale guys and sending them to get fed.

Stryke11 April 12th, 2008 12:26 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Quote:

Sombre said:
If you make a Jotun Herse, Demonbred, Lizard King or Dwarf smith into a prophet, they get a special graphic.

Really? Wow! Too bad I never play those nations...but that's so cool!

NTJedi April 12th, 2008 12:33 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 

* Mindless beings can receive the feebleminded affliction.
?(wouldn't that be an upgrade)?

* You cannot find blood sites within water provinces, supposedly because the water washes away the blood... ... yet you can find fire sites.
water and fire seem more likely to cancel each other than water and blood

* The game has a commander and unit limitation which are easily encountered on maps of 1000 or more provinces.

ano April 12th, 2008 12:45 PM

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Quote:

Zeldor said:

- immobile units cannot use Teleport etc


Oracle can. I think that only totally immobile units like Sphinx cannot.

Zeldor April 12th, 2008 12:53 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Right, teleport works, Gateway doesn't. Have to check Astral Travel. Giving Flying items to immobiles gives them mapmove 1 but they still cannot move. Treelords on flying carpets would look nice though.

Cor2 April 12th, 2008 01:06 PM

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Quote:

ano said:
Quote:

Zeldor said:

- immobile units cannot use Teleport etc


Oracle can. I think that only totally immobile units like Sphinx cannot.

Yep. the monolith can as well for sure and I think the statue can. IIRC Only the spinx cannot teleport.

ologm April 12th, 2008 01:21 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Longer weapons reduce damage taken from fire shield.
Transformation can turn you into a flying monkey or a big chimera.

Cerlin April 12th, 2008 02:43 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
The MA Athemate Dragons also have a prophet special graphic, it is pretty sweet too.

Tyrant April 12th, 2008 03:13 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Helheim death mages gain the reanimate ability if you bring them back from the dead.

Zenzei April 12th, 2008 03:34 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Do you mean the reanimate ability every undead priest gets(all helheim mages except the dwarf are priests after all) or some kind of Helheim special feature(which would be super cool)?

Endoperez April 12th, 2008 03:36 PM

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Quote:

Tyrant said:
Helheim death mages gain the reanimate ability if you bring them back from the dead.

All undead and demon priests reanimate. This used to and might still include Demonbred, but that's considered a bug because it doesn't fit the theme of the nation.

calmon April 12th, 2008 03:40 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Do you know the best use of the most wonderful holy artifact called "the challice"?

Ironically the death casted undead tartarians drink from it all the time to get rid of all the nasty afflictions!

Saulot April 12th, 2008 03:42 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Demonbred are no longer demons and demonbred prophets no longer reanimate.

Renojustin April 12th, 2008 03:44 PM

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"Demonbred are no longer demons."

Time for a Demon Maury Povich DNA test show.

Seve82 April 18th, 2008 11:24 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Yeah! How many percent demon one has to be to be labelled demon?

Sombre April 18th, 2008 12:22 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
50%

Kristoffer O April 18th, 2008 12:46 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Demons are part spirit, part body, while humans are part spirit, part body, part soul. We assume abysians have a soul like humans. We also assume that the soul is singular and impossible to divide.

If we call the spirit 'sd' or 'sh', the body 'bd' or 'bh' and the soul 'S' we would get:

Demon:
sd+sd+bd+bd

Human:
sh+sh+bh+bh+S

Demonbred:
sd+sh+bd+bh+S

Thus a demonbred is 40% demon, and not demon enough to get the demonic tag.

theenemy April 18th, 2008 03:35 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
If you make an anathemant dragon(MA Abysian lvl 3 priest, I think they are called that) into a prophet, he gets a cool hat.

vfb April 18th, 2008 07:06 PM

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Quote:

Kristoffer O said:
... We also assume that the soul is singular and impossible to divide.
...

In that case, Vengeance of the Dead needs a little fixin'. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Kristoffer O April 19th, 2008 03:59 AM

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Lol!

Cor2 April 19th, 2008 04:16 AM

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Aww there goes my "brilliant" explaination of VotD. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

lch April 25th, 2008 11:59 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Did you know...

that you can remove neighbor connections in the map editor via ctrl+click?
that you can freely scroll the map with the mouse by holding the middle mouse button?
that freshwater provinces give higher income?

Why did I quote from so many JK posts? Why indeed...

chrispedersen April 26th, 2008 02:03 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
I can assure you (tested again tonight) that oni demon priests cannot reanimate. The Dai Oni are the only units that can.

e will let you select experienced units.

Lanka's markata scouts are +50!!! stealth. You aren't EVER finding them. Give them bane venom charms.. and the turn they're going to die attack an enemy capitol.

B0rsuk April 26th, 2008 02:54 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Atlantian infantry with coral armour easily kill principes.

Edi April 26th, 2008 05:19 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Quote:

chrispedersen said:
I can assure you (tested again tonight) that oni demon priests cannot reanimate. The Dai Oni are the only units that can.

e will let you select experienced units.

Lanka's markata scouts are +50!!! stealth. You aren't EVER finding them. Give them bane venom charms.. and the turn they're going to die attack an enemy capitol.

You should notice that the Demon priests of Yomi do not have the actual "Demon" tag. So they are human priests who worship demons, not demons themselves. But prophetize a devil commander from Horde from Hell (the devil + 25 imps spell) and he'll reanimate just fine because he is a demon (like the Dai Oni)

cleveland April 26th, 2008 09:26 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
For any single casting of Tartarian Gate, the Tartarian has:

-A 60% chance of possessing SOME Earth magic

-A 31% chance of possessing SOME Death magic
-A 31% chance of possessing SOME Air magic

-A 17% chance of possessing SOME Fire magic
-A 17% chance of possessing SOME Water magic
-A 17% chance of possessing SOME Astral magic
-A 17% chance of possessing SOME Nature magic
-A 17% chance of possessing SOME Blood magic

So, Tartarians are primarily Earth, Death, and Air mages.

sector24 April 26th, 2008 10:06 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
There are four Demon Lords:

Belial (Stealthy, Causes unrest, can corrupt enemy commanders)
Belphegor (Attracts freespawn and blood slaves, Heretic 5)
Buer
Pazuzu (Spreads Disease)

Wrana April 27th, 2008 08:50 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
You can gain information on your opponents' Pretenders form their titles: number of titles +4 equals their Dominion, and title themselves point at their magic schools and Dominion effects - at least, 3 pints in Order/Turmoil are always reflected, as well as high elemental magic...

chrispedersen April 28th, 2008 01:12 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Sure, I know that. But the original post said Oni demon priests can reanimate. They cant.

lch April 28th, 2008 09:37 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Quote:

Wrana said:
You can gain information on your opponents' Pretenders form their titles: number of titles +4 equals their Dominion

I was very surprised to read this and found out that it wasn't true, too. Higher dominion has a higher chance to get titles and to get titles that sound more awesome, but it's not as straight-forward as that.

VedalkenBear April 28th, 2008 09:48 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Ich: I always thought that you got one title per 2 points of Dominion, rounded down. Also, the titles do seem to reflect the paths the Pretender has. I think, though, that depending on the paths (and levels in those paths) that you take, you don't get all of the titles you are privileged to.

Just one example: a Dominion 10 magic-less Wyrm may not get 5 titles.

Zeldor April 28th, 2008 09:52 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Titles are quite random, I don't think there is any direct link. You can somehow tell something about magic picks, mainly death magic.

lch April 28th, 2008 09:59 AM

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Quote:

VedalkenBear said:
Ich: I always thought that you got one title per 2 points of Dominion, rounded down.

I was thinking it was Dom/2 rounded up, too, but that again is not always right. And comparing with base dominion of the pretender god didn't give any conclusive results as well. Unless I am getting mixed results from the pretender files I have because some of them come from games with CBM enabled.

Kristoffer O April 28th, 2008 02:01 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
It varies a bit, but basically it is dom/2.

Titles are tied to paths (or combination of paths), dominion strength, scales and nations.

Wrana April 28th, 2008 03:18 PM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
About nations, I didn't see. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
BTW, does "Patron of Warriors" mean something?

Argitoth April 29th, 2008 06:50 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Two lifelong protections on one commander will summon double the devils.

Sombre April 29th, 2008 06:52 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Imps.

Argitoth April 29th, 2008 06:59 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
imps...

No, devils! Seriously! it will summon 0 x 2 devils!

Edi April 29th, 2008 07:25 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Soul contract summons devils. Lifelong protection summons imps in combat.

Endoperez April 30th, 2008 09:30 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
When you choose your opponents in game creation, 'shift+H' makes all nations human-controlled, 'n' adds in a new nation.

Dedas April 30th, 2008 09:46 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
My God, didn't knew that, thank you Endo. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

lch April 30th, 2008 09:55 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Same here. This will help tremendously when setting up games by hand, for example games which require mods to be present.

Zeldor April 30th, 2008 10:04 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
Yeah. Bring more, people! I will try to find some time [and motivation http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif] to assemble all that wisdom in one post.

reverend April 30th, 2008 10:19 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
There should be a sticky with all the undocumented key shortcuts...

Dedas April 30th, 2008 10:21 AM

Re: Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)
 
They should be in the FAQ perhaps?


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