No Magic sites
 

Settings:
Map - Glory of the gods
Game name - anti-magic
Gold, Resources, Supplies - standard
Independents - 6
HoF - 15
Renaming - allowed
Research - hard
Score graphs - on
early ages
no magic sites

This should be a simply army on army battle. with some mages casting maybe. However magic is not what decides the game as so often happens.

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No magic sites is not really possible, ultra rare yes.

0% site frequency means provinces with bonus (mountains, forests, wastes I think) have 20% to have one.

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Really can't you just put for 0 magic sites.
well the starting Magic sites are still there, but magic levels will be low.

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Also, there's already a game named Alexandria.

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Why play a low-magic game in the Early Age? Late Age nations are the ones best equipped for conventional battle.

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Fighting is interesting in all Ages. The stated settings will still result in plenty of magic power, just less than typical.

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All right so maybe it's a bad idea. I just wanted to do something new.

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So who wins? Lanka, Niefel or Mictlan? It would be hard to find someone stupid enough to take non-bless nation. Unless you limit max levels of magic on pretenders.

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For a low/no magic game There are mods that were released by KO limiting research to level 4 and 6 respectivly, but I am pretty sure they could be modified to cap research even lower, say 2.

If you interested I can try to dig through the forum and find them, Or I can just attach my copies.

Fiction fan, dont give up, I like the idea, it just needs some tweeking.

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I ran a game much like this in Dom2. The rule of no extra magic on pretender chassis worked well.

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so blood nation will win

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I think this is a fun idea. I would like to see the magic capped at 2, with sites extremely rare. As pure a military sim as you can make it, anyway. I would be interested in joining a game like this. Cor2, I think the mod you are looking for is in the mod forum with the stickied post that is a compendium for all the mods. Maybe someone a lot smarter than I can look at KO's mod, and see how he capped it, and try and change it to two, or even 1 or 0. Just the magic we start out with.

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Yeah, I like the idea too.

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Sounds like a good idea anyone know where to find the mod

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Yes it's here attached at the start of this thread.

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I would also strongly recommend a ban against blesses higher than, say, level 6 then as well...

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Thanks I got it

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quantum_mechani already proposed the idea of not adding any magic to your pretender chassis, which would kill blesses entirely...

Seems like a better solution to me than capping it at 6.

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True. Though if you're using a spell-removing mod, you could also remove the blessing spells.

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This sounds like fun to me.

No Tartarians, no master enslave, no wish no funneling of everything into 3-4 tactics which are more available to certain nations rather than others.

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This does sound interesting. Nice and simple.

I imagine this would whack out a good deal of micro. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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I would not like to see the Bless, nerfed. I think that would be fairly thematic with a no magic motiff. Knights Templars and all that. I would not like to see the magic on the Pretenders restricted,either, just for that reason.

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post removed for being stupid

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I also think it would be better to allow *some* magic on the pretenders. I could see it totally open, or at the least just capped at 4. Only allowing the minor blesses keeps them from being the focal point of the game, but still allows a little more range of strategy than "+3 all scales, build troops, go!".

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Good Point, "Doors Man". It allows for a "military" scenario, but still allows for the differentiation for the different nation's sacreds.

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Yes, yes, thematic and all that. The problem is that with that setup, the hardcore bless nations become completely invincible. The balance of the game will be completely off.

I'm cool with stuff that is thematic but not at (such great) cost of game balance.

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Not sure if I agree or disagree. Trying to evaluate that, would an example be Vans? What others?

The 4-star blessings being:

+2 attack
20% air shield
+2 defense
+2 reinvigoration
+1 magic resistance
+100% affliction chance
+5% regeneration
+2 strength

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Personally I think the first rank minor blesses seem reasonable. Nothing overpowered by any means, just some options and variations on how to organize your military. No one is going to be making hardcore thugs with those blesses. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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To me it would seem a waste of points to put all that magic on a pretenders when it won't be able to cast any decent spells http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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This is very interesting to me. I think if I were creating it, I would use these settings:

Definite:
--Age: Late
--Map Size: 200-300 provinces
--Magic Sites: 0
--Spell Level Limit: 3
--Research: Very Hard
--Pretender: Limited to level 6 in all schools of magic
--Worthy Heroes mod
--Conceptual Balance (Pretenders and Scales ONLY) mod

Possible:
--Ban Ermor and R'lyeh
--Few scattered water provinces, rest land
--Pretender limited to level 4 in all schools
--No independents mod
--Level 1 spells moved to level 2, 2 moved to 4, and 3 to 6
--Ban Caelum and Arco (tramplers may be overpowered)
--Limited selection of MA and EA nations permitted if desired (i.e. MA Man, EA T'ien Ch'i, etc)

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That is good, but I want the age to be early because I know that age best.
Also the pretender should perhaps be limited to no magic boost at all.
Maybe we can make magic research it's self against the rules

I am sorry, but I do not know what Worthy Heroes mod is.
For Conceptual Balance do you mean everyone should not be able to get any dominion? because that would be for another game.

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I like the idea of limiting bless to 4, at least I like it better than no bless at all.

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alright it was only a suggestion