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I think that the time for a new game has come)

The settings are the following:
- Map is Alexander by PashaDawg with predefined starting locations. See attachment.
- Era: Middle
- Graphs on, sites 50%, renaming on, HoF 15, indies 6
- Host is Llamaserver. Please read the FAQ if you don't know how to use it
- Hosting schedule: 24 hours per turn for first 17 turns, 48 hours starting from turn 18.
- Mods: Twan's Mist of Deception replacement mod , Worthy Heroes 1.8
- Players: 14-17.

Currently playing:

Shinuyama - ano
Eriu - secretperson (AI)
Jotunheim - Ossa (defeated)
Machaka - Natpy
Ashgod - chrispedersen (replaced by Dimaz)
Abysia - Dragar (defeated)
Bandar Log - JimMorrison (defeated)
Mictlan - danbo
R'lyeh - AdmiralZhao
Ermor - BigDisAwesome (AI)
Oceania - seej (AI)
Agartha - Revolution (AI)
Vanheim - don_Pablo (defeated)
T'ien Ch'i - veto (defeated)
Ulm - karnoza
C'tis - Executor (replaced by JimMorrison)
Pythium - johnarryn (replaced by konming)

Game page at llamaserver

Here's the list of exploits I would not like to see in this game:
- "Cast long-lasting battlefield enchantment and retreat". Please, don't script your mage who casts a battlefield enchantment to leave earlier that round 6 or 5 (for returning)
- "Overfilling enemy lab". Don't send magic items to your enemy to make him lose his own items.
- Priests with Crystal Matrix casting several times in one turn.
- any other severe bugs found in the process of the game
- Your suggestions?

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Ooh, sign me up for Eriu please

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Yikes - why do people like playing with graphs off? It just means more MicroManagement for every player.

And not only that, but it always benefits the strongest player most.

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Sign me up for Jotunheim please.

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Machaka please.

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ashdod please

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It's just a bit different experience

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Abysia please

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I really tried to resist signing up for this. Really tried to resist.....

But I must try Bandar Log, Haruman demands it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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I'll take Mictlan.

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O Ryleh?

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And I would have to agree about the graphs. When I started out I did not like them, but after a few MP games I've seen that they are really necessary to prevent runaway victories. Not that having graphs off will stop me from playing... =)

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I'd like in as Ermor. I was like 15 or so turns into one of Ich's games as them when Gandalf's server went down. I'm intrigued and would like a chance to go a little farther.

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I would like Pythium please. I prefer graphs on but will play either way.

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Agartha

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Vanheim please

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Sorry///
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I'l try Tien-Chi better)))

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Ulm

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I'm really impressed with the speed this game filled up. It seems like the time for it has come indeed)
Three more issues:
1) I don't mind having graphs on. If people like it, no problem
2) We have 2 slots open and definitely need some water nation because there're many seas on the map. Maybe another map? Any suggestions?
3) There's a map issue that should be fixed - provinces with less than 3 neighbours should be marked with "nostart". Pasha promised to do that but I'm not sure if he has time now. We may do this by ourselves though.

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Well, if you'll have a utter noob (currently scarred of the one black candle he can see in kingmaker) I'd love to sign on as any water nation, as I said utter noob and I wouldn't be offended at all if you said no.

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Sounds like a job for a perl script!

If you have time though, it would probably be preferable to hand-place the start positions. That is a bit time-consuming though.

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Well, maybe I'll do so when I have time. It's really better with the exception of easing heavy early rushes.
I don't know perl) Btw, if someone who knows it wrote a script for .map file processing, it would be great. Any language will be fine but I'm too busy and lazy to do it)

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If you really want to play, take a land nation better, however I think that it'd better for you to join some newbie game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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I can write such a script. Should be a two minute job.

Where can I find this map?

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@ano

Fair enough, and like I said not offended at all...*whimper*

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Anyway, good luck with the game all the same.

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http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...?Number=573555
Thanks)
There're two .map files there. I think we'll use the one that has "no_sites" in the name

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If you want me to change, I would happily play Oceania instead of Pythium.

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No problem)

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I'm in if there is a slot open!

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I'll take C'tis (everything else is taken!),
IF there is a slot open still!

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Still room? I'll take Pythium.

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Well, I have largely written a program, but I just realised it doesn't differentiate between water and land provinces (I assume you meant less than three neighbours of the same land/sea type). By the way, do you really mean less than three, or "three or less"?

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Cool that you did it. I meant "two or less" but "three or less" will also be fine.
As for water provinces, I think, it's also doable, isn't it?

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Yeah, it's doable, I just thought I'd better stop cos I'm at work!

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are we gonna use the worthy heroes mod Ano?

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I don't mind if nobody does.

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If the script doesn't want to handle the water properly because of land connects, that much can be edited manually in just a few minutes. Yes, I am volunteering myself, if that's what you're going to ask. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Yes, this can be done manually, but llama's script will be a very useful tool once he finishes it. For now, yes, we may even assign starting provinces manually.

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Tried to specify starting locations but ran into the following problem:
Is it possible to specify a set of possible starting locations from which starting location for specific nation will be chosen?
#specstart should have 2 params to work: nation number and province number. What should I do if I don't want to link starting location to specific nation?
If it is possible in no way other than marking each province out of this set with #nostart, I really don't like it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

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Well, it's likely a much more complicated script, but it would be interesting if it could be automated in such a way as to make fair and balanced (static) start positions. So, it would eliminate all territories with 3 or less connections, then determine loosely (based on a specified number of nations) the average spacing to make them all roughly equidistant, and especially to insure that all capitals are at least 3 provinces from eachother. I am sure this is far too complicated for anyone to just sit down for 15 minutes and bang out, so it's just wishful thinking, but it sounds neat. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif I mean once it was doing all that, it could probably even go down the list based on number of connections, so it would look at say, provinces with 7 neighbors, and see how many could work together as capitals, and then fill the rest of the list with 6 neighbor spots if possible.

Forgive my blathering, I am much better at speaking and typing, than programming. Well, I'm much better at just everything other than programming..... but I don't hold it against myself.

>.>

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I assume it will be posted here when the map is ready?

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Yes, it will.

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So, I've made changes to the map and specified the starting provinces. Obviously, some of them are better and some are worse but I spent more than an hour trying to make everyone happy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Here're the starting provinces numbers:
5, 121, 64, 262, 264, 18, 90, 130, 196, 243, 23, 241, 238, 151, 62, 53, 123.
I PM'ed llamabeast so hopefully the game will soon be created. You may get the map from attachment in the first post and the mods from the links.

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For the worthy Heroes Mod, is it the one in the first post of that thread??

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I provided a link to the discussion thread for those who don't know what it is (including myself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif). The mod itself is an attachment to the first post in that thread.

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I noticed that version 1.8 is rather old. Does anyone know if WH works well with the latest patch?

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I'm playing in a couple games right now that have the WH mod and it seems to work fine with the patch

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WH doesn't add/change too much, it seems to be really stable.

Is there a deadline on pretenders? I tend to like to run test builds up until the last minute, it's half the fun for me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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could someone post a zipped version of the map? I dont have a rar undoer.

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You may find the zips in discussion thread. The difference is only in starting locations I've listed above.