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coobe June 11th, 2008 08:20 AM

Whips - Useful ?
 
Hey, i just wanted some opinions on whips. Do you use one of those regulary or at all ? maybe the rat tail for boosting the fear ? how much does it boost ? any infos on whips and usage are welcome http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

llamabeast June 11th, 2008 08:21 AM

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ano June 11th, 2008 08:59 AM

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Whip of Command is good for boosting normal leadership for mages. I used them heavily along with Scepters of Authority and Crowns of Command to make my Starspawns able to lead and teleport huge hordes of chaff.
Some unique items are good for this purpose too (O'al Khan Sceptre and Twin Spears come to mind)

Edratman June 11th, 2008 11:11 AM

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I also only use the whip of command. I'm sure there is a good niche use for the others, but I haven't found it and I stay in the forging rut that I'm comfortable with.

Revolution June 11th, 2008 12:23 PM

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What I do on my personal time is no business of yours!






...

but seriously no, never use em

Dedas June 11th, 2008 01:20 PM

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The whip of command is used all the time in our home - but not by me unfortunately.

Baalz June 11th, 2008 02:10 PM

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rat tail whip gives animal awe, which is a good way to stop elephants. It's also a good way to scare off a raiding thug while you cut off his retreat.

Ironhawk June 11th, 2008 03:25 PM

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I was wondering recently if the Demon Whip was a particularly good chaff killer. It gets small area fire, of course, but whips all have length 6 - so it would get repels on basically every weapon... except pikes and lances I think? Which would work out pretty well if you are just fighting the masses. Havent tested it tho.

thejeff June 11th, 2008 03:55 PM

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Is the small area fire from the whip also capped at 1 damage?

Baalz June 11th, 2008 04:14 PM

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Quote:

thejeff said:
Is the small area fire from the whip also capped at 1 damage?

Most definitely not.

MaxWilson June 11th, 2008 04:15 PM

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Stone Bird has length 6 and I've found it to be surprisingly good for chaff-repelling, so yeah, Demon Whip might be worth trying.

-Max

Endoperez June 11th, 2008 04:17 PM

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Quote:

Ironhawk said:
I was wondering recently if the Demon Whip was a particularly good chaff killer. It gets small area fire, of course, but whips all have length 6 - so it would get repels on basically every weapon... except pikes and lances I think? Which would work out pretty well if you are just fighting the masses. Havent tested it tho.

Didn't work out too well with Black Lords and burning pearl. You have to hit AND damage everyone you want to repel, and every repel after the first gives you -2 attack. He could repel perhaps three-four first, but getting surrounded will still get him killed. It might work with something that had extremely high base attack and fire magic to boost it further.

Ironhawk June 11th, 2008 05:04 PM

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Just to clarify, I think the point thejeff was trying to bring up was: Does the small area flame get triggered by the repel-response (which we know is capped at 1 dam)? My personal guess is that it does not get triggered.

Endo: That sounds very different from how I understood repel to work. Can someone give me a refresher on Dom3 repel mechanics?

thejeff June 11th, 2008 05:10 PM

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Actually, I was asking about the damage from the flame. I've never used the demon Whip.

I'd assume it isn't triggered on a repel. No other special weapon effects are. (Which is good, otherwise it would be the best damage shield ever. Three troops in a square attack you, each triggers a Fire attack that hits all of them!)


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