Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Hello everyone!

As discussed quite exactly a month ago, here comes the new installment of the Cold War 2020 Mod for WinSPMBT v4.0!

To those who don't know the mod yet, here is the idea: the USSR has not gone bust, the East-West standoff has continued uninterrupted from 1990 all the way to 2020.
Nothing too original, but this means three decades of unfettered force consolidation and military development, FMS and shifting alliances.
Now think about it in wargame terms...

There come Comanches, T-95s, Marder-II, Block-III MBT, and a lot more! No force reduction, no oldies kept in service for decades without replacement, no Shinseki doctrine (well, not too much), now you can have fun wreaking havoc in germany with the best technology that will never be available!

The mod installer contains:

1. 20 historically modded OOBs: Russia (USSR), USA, West Germany, East Germany, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Austria, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Libya, Algeria, Chad, Mujahedeen and Japan.
2. 160 new IA picklists
3. 832 new icons
4. 1369 new B&W .lbm pictures
5. 52 presentation-screen color .lbm pictures
6. 356 encyclopedia text files
7. 7 stand-alone scenarios
8. 1 complete campaign

To play, just install a new, clean version of WinSPMBT v4.0 (that's to prevent wrecking your custom files or your PBEM games), and run the mod installer over it.

about this:
[official warning]
"This mod contains highly altered or additional files that may or will cause interference with the master game files and it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that this mod be installed and played ONLY in a separate copy of the game and NOT run from the master game"
[/official warning] http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

You will find the mod install on Fabio Prado's Armor site, who kindly offered to host it and saved you all from the bother of unregistered RapidShare queuing:

Fabio Prado's WinSPMBT page with the Cold War 2020 mod install. If you didn't already, you should really check his site on the way, it's a great reference on armor and SP-based wargames, but I guess you all know this last part.

Just in case, here is the backup RapidShare link.

As always, I am open to commentaries, criticism, corrections, death threats or fan gifts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Have fun!

Regards,

Plasma

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Nice work Plasma !!!

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Very nice work Plasma! Impressive icon work.

Btw, I found one bug:OT-2000 Rys in Czech oob don't show in game (you can shoot it but there's no icon for it). Could you fix it?

edit:Another bug:W-3U Sokol and some plane (Bournak if I didn't remember wrong) don't have icons in game...

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

One question, on what seems to be an excellent piece of work. Does this effect the Canada OOB? I have an MBT loaded just for kind of thing, just wanted to know if I should protect my Canadian OOB.

Bob out

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Nope, not yet. The list of affected OOBs was posted pretty much everywhere on this thread, on the mod page, the readme... Canada I haven't got around to do yet, but probably soon. There are no icons, lbms, picklists or other changes that should affect the Canadian OOB, and the .obf file itself is not overwritten.

In any case, I once again advise everyone to install the mod over a new copy of WinSPMBT rather than over the one you usually play and edit, to avoid PBEM conflicts and losing custom files.
If you want to install the Cold War mod on a fresh game folder and then copy your custom Canadian OOB into it, I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Please tell me if it doesn't, and how.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Thanks for the feedback!

I don't know how this can happen, since neither the Rys or the W-3 use custom icons, and these icons are not in modified files.
I guess this if unit #725 "OT-2002 Rys" in OOB 37? I have no other entry for the Rys in Czechoslovakia.
Please check that the files icon0100.shp and icon0101.shp in folder WinSPMBT\Game Data\Graphics exist with modification dates of 25/03/2008 and 12/05/2006 respectively. They contain the official icons used by these units.
Did you try these units in the official game as well? That would be unit #439 "Rys Azalia AOP", #459 "Rys M-98" and #572 "KTO Rys" in OOB 02 Poland, and all the Sokols you can find.

Could you give me more detail about the other graphic bugs you have encountered? OOB and unit number would be fine.

Regarding the L-201 aircraft icons, these are custom icons which I recently moved, so there may be some bugs left here and there.
I will issue a correction shortly if some more of these problems are found. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Still no idea about the other bugs with the original icons, though.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Hmm 1st bug was in generated campaign game.
Btw, I just noticed that both icons 0100 and 0101 don't exist in my graphics folder... I just reinstalled 0.6 version. What I did wrong? Did you forgot to add them into installer? If so, could you attach them here?

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Seems everything has worked as advertised, it didn't effect my Canada OOB. Just to clarify, is there supposed to be a Comache or a Abrams follow on? Not a problem otherwise, seems to play fine so far.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Huh, as said earlier, these two files are official and should be part of your original WinSPMBT v4.0. As such, they are not supposed to be in the CWM installer in the first place.
First, did you install the mod over an V4.0 WinSPMBT game? Using any earlier version is bound to cause problems, e.g. missing icons.
If you did, then there is a problem with the game install you used. I would recommend extracting to a new folder the required WinSPMBT patches, and copying the graphics files from there to your Cold War Mod install.
Use Upgrade v4.0 for file icon0100.shp, and
Supplement v3.0 for file icon0101.shp.
The files needed can be found in the usual Game Data\Graphics\ folder.

If other such problems come up, the radical solution would be to install a fresh WinSPMBT with all patches, and then only install the Cold War mod on it. If you keep a copy of your campaign savegames, there should be no problem to start it again when this is done.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Great, nice to know everything works as planned!
Abrams follow-on is pretty clearly included in the US OOB in the shape of the old Block-3 tank and family. That's the non-export version, export-proof successor coming soon.
Comanche follow-on would be rather out of scope in terms of game timeline and technology IMHO, and the late Apaches and Comanches are already fearsome enough to hold the line until 2020.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

You are in right Plasma;)... I didn't noticed that I forgot to install 4.0 patch from some reason. It's ok now.

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Plasma

Thanks for all your work here. I have never downloaded your Cold War Mods so I have a question. I was looking at the E German (Ukraine) OOB and it looks like it is the same as the Official Ukranian OOB with a different flag. Has there been work on the OOB or did I screw something up? I have a separate install for your mod.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Ok as I suspected I loaded things up wrong I forgot to copy your OOB's into the OOB file. {cbreedon this may be your problem the CW OOB file is a separate folder placed into the OOB folder. This must be done by the user. As well the DDR OOB is in the Ukrainian slot the name change required to an exe change not possible.)

Anyway now everything is right in the future universe, I'm impressed with the work done here. BTW no problem again with my Canada OOB. If you’d like I’ll line it up with your AH vision and send you a copy.

FYI I've found a couple small errors thus far:

#1- US OOB one of the FB-22 Raptors has in it's #1 wpns slot a cannon listed as a GBU-35 JDAM. I beleive you meant for a cannon to be there.

#2- POLAND OOB the Hibernyt SPAA looks to be meant to be Truck/AAA unit, however the icon is a Lt Tank.

If I find anything else I'll let you know.

Bravo Zulu on a job well done.

Bob out

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

As explained by PanzerBob (and in the readme and the install notes, incidentally), the modded OOBs are installed into a dedicated "Custom OOBs" folder called "ColdWar2020_v0.6". Once the mod is installed, you still have to use the "Custom OOB Sets Manager" to load the OOBs.
This is meant to prevent overwriting other preexistent custom OOBs that may be in the default OOB folder.

I hope this helps and that you enjoy the content! (and the differences with the regular Ukraine OOB, of course)

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

That would be nice, I try to cross-check with country-specific mods whenever available, otherwise I'm left alone with my imagination and the results are probably dreadful to a knowing local . http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gifNope, the FB-22 doesn't carry a cannon, not anymore than e.g. the F-111 did. Long-range strike and high-altitude bombings are of the essence here, not strafing or air combat.
Looks like I left over the AP ammo=1 for the gun tube though, but that's just an omission that has no incidence on gameplay.Well, I had not spotted this one before release, due to my bad habit of searching units by name. Turns out a plain old AA truck gets a 2S31 paint job...

<font color="red">***OFFICIAL CORRECTIVE***</font>
OOB 0bat002 Poland, unit #200 "Hibernyt SPAA" should get icon #4128 instead of current #3843.
<font color="red">***OFFICIAL CORRECTIVE***</font>

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

I've realigned my Canada OOB to refelect what could have happened if the government hadn't hung us out to dry in the later part of the 20th Century and had the Cold War digressed into setting Europe alight. I want to play test it first for a few turns before I send out.

I real like the idea of the 90mm Gun you have on the Lowe. Hope it functions well in combat.

Bob Out

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

thanks

I guess I should have read the entire readme... I have a separate install for this so I don't need to use the custom OOB function. I have a quick question. Is the ASG99 based off a real gun or just assumptions? Just curious and it looks cool :-)

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Can't wait to see this! I have some quite clear ideas for the Canadian OOB, let's see what you come up with.
My original idea for the mod didn't include Europe 'alight' in a major fashion as part of the timeline (it's called Cold War after all), but I have several scenarios for several non-canon flashpoints at different places.Heh, that's top-notch technology if ever there was (would be?). In SP these low-caliber high-velocity guns (see also Soviet T-12 and Japanese Type-2013) penetrate pretty much anything but sometimes lack the warhead size to deal significant after-armor damage on modern opponents.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Open the Austrian OOB http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
The ASG-99 (and family) is a license-produced 5.45mm conversion of the Steyr AUG-A3, as the pics show. Obviously not with the Picatinny rails, maybe a local equivalent.
No real-life basis for this one, I just liked the idea. If you look into the other OOBs, you will see some more cross-breeding between the former Warsaw Pact countries and the less-aligned neighbors.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Well I have v.4.0 and CW 0.6 installed but still one bug:SPW-360 icon in DDR(Ukraine) OOB doesn't show in game (West Germany vs. East Germany 2020, meeting engagement).

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Well, same here, the icons for the XA-360 are in icon0102.shp, which is included in WinSPMBT official update v3.0.
Now tell me you installed the v3.0 one as well... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
For reference, you can test with the official OOB 02 Poland, units #207, #208, #672, #673, #680, #681 and #835, which use exactly the same units.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Please find attached my vision of an AH CAF.

Feel free to critque

Bob Out

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Hey Plasma, I just checked Ukraine oob via encyclopedia and there's no icons for SPW-360/57 and SPW-360K.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Hello Plasma, I downloaded the latest version of the mod a couple of days ago and, from what I have seen of it, it is great. You certainly have been busy with it. So many new countries with so many new units.

I have a couple of questions though. I am at work at the moment so I don't have access to .SHP files etc but I would like to ask you some questions regarding some of the units later on.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Ok, home and infront of computer. Questions can begin.

Firstly, regarding Icon0104.shp (14 - 22), what are they?

Same file but now 26 and 27, what weapons system is that mounted on that Leopard?

Also, 56-61, what calibre gun is that? Why the different turret? Is it more of an Armoured Car version? - Good idea making the mortars mobile, by the by.

Icon0105.shp (88-99), what kind of tank is that?

That is it for now. thanks, in advance.

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You just can't check in the game, can you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Modder's syndrom, I know that...
On top of it, you're just going to blow all the surprises I have for the next version!

This one is the Brit version of the Löwe, unused for now. Roughly equivalent to the Löwe-1A2. The next one with the small turret is the Löwe IFV. I haven't integrated this one yet because I can't find a main weapon for it.ADATS, same turret as on the Bradley. I think it isn't in use yet, planned for Canada and Switzerland.Turret is Cockerill CT-CV turret with CV105 gun, this one is in service in Belgium as replacement for the Scorpion. Real stuff, by the way, check on their website. But not really in service, that's just me.GDLS M-4 Terminator, 2010s US export tank, lighter and cheaper than the Block-3 mammoth and suited for second-line export and FMS. Coming soon in Egypt and (probably) Greece and Canada.

You know what, attached is the public version of the added icon list. Enjoy.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Thankyou so much Plasma. You've been a great help.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Tanks for the list.

Bob Out

Cdn OOB Error
 

Found a weapon load out error on the Canadian OOB

Unit 710 - Kangaroo II IFV wpn 3 should be #144 AGM114L Longbow.

Hope it has caused no serious deaths. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Bob out

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Good Job Plasma!
Indeed, there are some highly altered files in this mod, but we were warned. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Here are some suggestions &amp; my error report (I didn't check all oob's).

Obat02
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076 SA-20B Gargoyle - Strangely distorted icon in Mobhack and no icon visible in game (shpedit bug?)
- SA-10B instead of SA-20 as weapon


077 HMMWV Trynka AT - Still uses the old HMMWV icon (in original game too)

224 152mm 2A61 FH - uses a HMMWV EFOGM icon

580 HMMWV Trynka - Still uses the old HMMWV icon (in original game too)

583 HMMWV Trynka - Still uses the old HMMWV icon (in original game too)

725 MB 290 GD - uses a 2S9 Nona icon (in original game too)

987 Tatrapan - uses icon 3760, 3761 MB type G with AT missile (in original game too)

988 Tatrapan - uses icon 3119, 3120 empty? (in original game too)

Obat44
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380 Wolf VB - wrong desert and winter icon

General
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Icon 146 M7 Priest - current Icons could be replaced by the better looking WinSP:WW2 icons

Icon 3375 - Toyota Hilux icon appears distorted in Mobhack

In scenario "Side Move on Schwarzenbeck", unit F0 (T-95 MBT) uses a green BMP-2 icon.


Hope this help

Regards,

Pierre

Re: Cdn OOB Error
 

Nah, Longbow, Longhorn, who cares...
Personally I'm a fan of unit #654, i.e. the motor rifle section with 85 Javelins, including 80 with HE warhead. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif Typos happen.

I'll PM you some more constructive comments on the Canadian OOB.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Thanks for the detailed error report. I knew there were some loose icons in Obat02 (Poland). The relevant ones can be corrected as follow:

<font color="red">***OFFICIAL CORRECTIVE***</font>
OOB 0bat002 Poland, unit #224 "152mm 2A61 FH" should get icon #3051 instead of current #3039.
<font color="red">***OFFICIAL CORRECTIVE***</font>
OOB 0bat002 Poland, unit #725 "MB 290 GD" should get icon #3753 instead of current #3690.
<font color="red">***OFFICIAL CORRECTIVE***</font>
OOB 0bat002 Poland, unit #987 "Tatrapan" should get icon #4093 instead of current #3670.
<font color="red">***OFFICIAL CORRECTIVE***</font>
OOB 0bat002 Poland, unit #988 "Tatrapan" should get icon #3322 instead of current #3119.
<font color="red">***OFFICIAL CORRECTIVE***</font>

The HMMWV Trynka is not used in the Cold War Mod OOB, and has been changed to nation=0, which you would have noticed if you had bothered playing the OOB, you modder http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Regarding distorted icons in MOBhack, as far as I have seen for now, they cause no problem in he game. I don't know what causes this bug in the first place.

All the errors will be corrected in the next issue.

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

I have a general modding question. Do the modified SHP files in your mod overwrite any graphics or are you just adding more vehicles. I understand the E German flag overwrites the one from Ukraine, but is there anything else?

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

There are three flag overwrites for the game menu interface (Battle.shp), the victory hexes (icon0095.shp) and the unit ID tags (icon0095.shp).
Apart from that, I overwrote a few official unit icons in R.C.0.6. Shortly, these are a few of the duplicated WZ501/BMP-1 icons in icon0099.shp and some BRDM-2s to continue the new SA-9 icons that was officially included in V4.0. All this is detailed in the icon list file I posted.

Re: Cdn OOB Error
 

My PM is incoming. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Well any proposals for icon (I mean those SPW's which I mentioned earlier)? Could I fix them with Mobhack (I mean, I need to know suitable icon numbers)?

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

As I said last time, I have no idea where your problem comes from because the units you mention use official WinSPMBT3.0 icons and not modded ones.
That's assuming you are still talking about "SPW-360/57 and SPW-360K". In this case the units involved would be #832, 833, 845, 846, 858 and 859 of OOB 079. Could you please confirm these unit numbers, so we both know what we are talking about?

If we are talking about the same thing indeed, then these units should use icons 3542 to 3544 and 3549 to 3551.
In case these icon numbers still don't show anything in MOBhack, please check in the official OOB 002 (Poland) in folder "OOBs\Default OOBs", units #207, #208, #672, #673, #680, #681 and #835, which use exactly the same icons. This is what I asked you last time and as long as I don't know the result of this check I can't tell you where the problem comes from.

If none of these units show any icon in MOBhack and in the game, then you should probably add into your Game Data\Graphics folder a new copy of file icon0102.shp extracted from a WinSPMBT v3.0 patch install.

Hope this solves your problem this time.

Plasma

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Yes, I mean those 2 models. Check Ukraine/DDR oob and SPW rifle company (and other units which have any of those SPW's)... And I repeat that I have your mod (latest version) and latest WinSPMBT version 4.0 installed.

Or is this meant only for version 3.0??? If so, any sense to use that?

Re: Cold War 2020 Mod R.C.0.6 is out!
 

Look, I have just tested a fresh install on my side and all these units work perfectly well in the encyclopedia and buy screens, under all climates.

I have given you a way forward to check where the problem was coming from on your side, now what are the results? Do you see the Rosomak units in the official Poland OOB? Does the \Game Data\Graphics\ folder of your WinSPMBT install contain a file named icon0102.shp?
You and I need this information to pinpoint the origin of this problem, so please stop beating around the bush and please try to apply the solutions I have given you in post #21.
If it appears you have a hole in your game install, then I gave you all you need to solve that particular problem, and otherwise, I would appreciate knowing where the problem can come from.

Over to you.